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kRuton-box wrote...

I absolutely loved the interactions between Sten and my dog. After retrieving his sword, he speaks about it with another warrior like him. Not Oghren, not my own warrior, not Alistair, but my dog. Awesome.

I think it would be great during the epilogue if you could ask your dog if he wanted to go with Sten when he returned to his homeland. They're right next to each other during the epilogue sequence.

I just finished my first playthrough recently as a Mage. Between talking with Wynne about how I should return to the Circle Tower when the Blight was over, Irving asking Wynne to become First Enchanter and Wynne not wanting it, I thought I would have been given the option to become the new First Enchanter. Maybe I could have been but didn't say the right things to be given the choice.

EDIT: Oh, and right before the final battle when all your allies speak with you, including your dog, maybe you could ask Sten to take care of your dog if something happens to you?  Or even better, ask your dog to take care of Sten. :lol:

i am still working on my first play threw hehe a mage   try to think whom i should stick with threw till the end Image IPB and yeah i like what you said on this that would be greatImage IPB

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Even though they all are probably mentioned already in this long thread, the moments that stood out for me the most:

- Generally the endings of the various Origins when and how you get to become a Grey Warden, especially the Dalish one.

- The battle at Ostagar. How it is set in scene, with moments of glory, hope and betrayal, gets me every time.

- The Lady of the Forest, and the conclusion of her story. And right after that in camp Lelianna singing the lament, expressing all the sadness I felt. Added value here when experiencing it with my Dalish Elf Ranger.

- The mood / ambience of the Deep Roads, Hespith and decision at the Anvil of the Void. Special twist with my Dwarven Noble, who let Bhelen know that he would kill him next time they met, and after crowning Harrowmount and the ensuing battle just thinking 'Told you so.'

- The Landsmeet. The setting, the suspension and most of all, even though being an acomplished, and quite bloodied, Grey Warden, the feeling of entering a battle I am not ready for.

- The decision between the Dark Promise and the Ultimate Sacrifice. All the time somehow knowing and accepting that all I have done would ultimately lead to my end. Sacrifice being one of the core pillars of what it means to be a Grey Warden, and then being offered a way out (for now), with unknown consequences, and all of a sudden discovering that I don't want to die.

- Alistairs speech before the Battle of Denerim.

- The scene at the Gates of Denerim when your companions bid you farewell and you head of to fulfill your destiny.

- Morrigan calling me friend (I think you have to be slightly emotionally disturbed to appreciate that one especially), Sten's acceptance of me and calling me Kadan, Lelianna professing her love to me.

So basically all the emotional and moral loaded heavy hitters.

On a lighter note of course things like party banter (Lelianna calling Sten 'Softie' and giggling is priceless), learning to know the story and characters of your companions, etc.

But most of all realising that there is such a thing as 'pixel attachment' possible (for me) and actually caring / interacting.
Oh man, why are there no holo-decks yet. ;)

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The Fade - Conceptually this is a surrealists paradiso. However, the shape-shifting mechanic in the Fade in DAO was not enjoyable for me. I guess I really like the concept and world design of the Fade, but I didn't really like what was done with it in DAO. The Fade in Awakening felt significantly less like the surreal world in DAO and more of just a village of ghosts. I would love to see more questing and free-roaming exploration into the Fade and perhaps the ability to enter the Fade at any time - this would likely require some kind of Fade city or central hub - which would be cool too.

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scyphozoa wrote...

The Fade - Conceptually this is a surrealists paradiso. However, the shape-shifting mechanic in the Fade in DAO was not enjoyable for me. I guess I really like the concept and world design of the Fade, but I didn't really like what was done with it in DAO. The Fade in Awakening felt significantly less like the surreal world in DAO and more of just a village of ghosts. I would love to see more questing and free-roaming exploration into the Fade and perhaps the ability to enter the Fade at any time - this would likely require some kind of Fade city or central hub - which would be cool too.


I'd agree- the whole concept of the Fade is awesome but what you get in Origins and Awakening is only ok. I just hope that when we go there next, its a bit more visually active. I always thought it should be like a Salvador Dali painting on acid, maybe do it like the Scarecrow levels in Arkham Asylum with stuff flying around and just a bit more dynamic and visually interesting than just a bunch of brown and tan colors.

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DAO moments that made me think "HOLY CRAP!"

1. Morrigans Ritual

2. Finding Jowan in Redcliffe basement (I played Mage opener)

3. Siding with Werewolves

and a whole bunch of ones I cannot remember

DAOA:

1. The Architect

2. Seeing Oghren


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I would love to mount a rescue mission for Valendrian and the alienage elves taken by the Tevinters. I feel like a schmuck for not going after them. Perhaps you could play as another city elf and hook up with  Isabella and the pirates and sail out after them. 

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Standout moments:



there was a vague sense of "oh cool!" when, in the dwarf origin, you find out you are the commander of a 1337 team of dwarves, spearheading an assault. . . as it stands, I was pretty let down by how uninteresting that part was - just another mob hunt really. . .



Hearing about the rest of the nations in Thedas - especially the Qunari Empire, Orlais and the Free Marches, in the codex entries really immersed me, although I can't think for the life of me why the game was set in the least interesting nation (Ferelden) - although this disinterest is fuelled by an education in British History.



Unfortunately the way a lot of the REALLY REALLY cool information in the codex which made me go "WOO! cool!"was let down horribly by the implementation in the game (which is a relative phrase - I still enjoyed the game!) - visually, I was expecting a vastly different artistic direction. The backstory and the visual style seemed. . . incompatible to me. . .



my two cents :) thoroughly enjoyed most of the central plot points, and most of the standout moments were where the developers intended them to be :)

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The CHARACTERS.

The best thing about DA:O imo is the band of people you collect and travel with. The characters in Dragon Age are the best I've seen in any Bioware game. Each has a rich history and amount of dialogue, I also really appreciate the amount they actually chime in during quests and events. The main reason I like Dragon Age more then ME2 is the direction of the characters. While ME2 has an amazing cast of characters, they are all very life-less anywhere but the Normandy or their respective loyalty missions (for the most part), and people like Garrus don't have much dialogue at all.

Modifié par Spinnazie, 20 mai 2010 - 03:13 .


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For me, one standout moment was talking to one of the Sisters in the Chantry in Dennerim - the one who's job it was to investigate relics and claims of relics.

In the middle of such a devoutly religious community, it warmed the heart to see a budding skeptic.

In my first playthrough especially, I found the Chantry and it's part in the society of Ferelden fascinating - It'd be interesting if later games were to explore the religious wars, the "exhalted marches", in some fashion. A game set in the time of religious turmoil and conflict, with maybe an external theat (like a possible Quanari invasion) thrown in... now that'd be interesting. ^_^

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I loved the whole origins concept. The magi origin story is my favorite....it starts off so dramatic if you fail the test than you get killed. I also liked how my origin affected me throughout the game such as seeing Jowan again, Wynne encouraging me to return to the tower and help rebuild the circle, etc. I also felt really comfortable entering the Fade again for Connor's quest as I had been there before. I was sad to see the tower in disarray for the Magi quest when it was so nice before. I am playing a city elf origin now and it makes me realize how much better I was treated by humans in the magi tower compared to how elves are treated in the outside world. I would also like to see the other regions in Thedas like Tevinter or Antiva. If in DA2 we have a new character I really hope that you can pick an origin like this game because it added so much and makes each playthrough unique, I love how your origin affects how people treat you and your responses throughout the game.I also liked playing tricks on the Chantry in Awakenings (Blight Orphans quests were hilarious). Another funny moment for me was talking to the Reverend Mother in Ostagar as a City Elf. I asked her if the Maker blesses elves and takes away their homeland. She yelled at me and wouldn't talk to me afterward, I fell out of my chair laughing. I am looking forward to DA 2 when it comes out and will definitely buy it,

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I would like to see the city Orlais! is that how you spell it? I would like to know more about the assasins and all the intrigue that goes on in that place

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Most memorable moments:



Seeing Dog running up the path after Ostagar.

Alistair's speech when he gave me the rose.

Arguing with Sten.

Meeting up with Sandal at Fort Drakon.

Talking to my companions before the epilogue and crying as I said "goodbye".



What I would like to learn more about:



Places: Orlais, Kal Sharok, Weisshaupt

People: Fiona, Wynne's son, Sandal, Morrigan

#388
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I just finished my first (89 hour 49 minute) play-through of this awesome game.



There were many questions, but I have one I'd like addressed in the second game or future expansion:



***What the hell was with the incredibly frustrating, anticlimactic, and disappointing ending with Morrigan as a love interest?***



She grew on me and I quite enjoyed her company. Spending all that time (for me at least) with a character in a game is incredibly time consuming, yet depending on how the game ends, can be quite satisfying.



While it was fun playing through the game itself, the ending for me left a lot to be desired, and that epilogue did absolutely nothing for me except make me feel sorta, well...bad about not being able to interact with Morrigan again. (No, not in that way… o.O)



Personally, I hope that in the future this is addressed and that in sequels and other expansions I (and perhaps others) at least get to find out what the hell the point of Morrigan leaving was supposed to be. (Especially considering that if you kept her ring, the epilogue mentions her feeling "great regret and sorrow" for her actions---or something very similar.)



So…yeah, that’s my question. ^.^



(On a side note, much applause from me for BioWare's incredible talent of writing and creating awesome games. It says something when any form of entertainment can make me feel as I did about the ending. I honestly do not remember having this much emotion over a video game character before---not even in Mass Effect.)

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Mainly I'd say I want to know what the deal is with Morrigan and MY baby.

Some more background into the Qunari would be nice considering Sten is pretty vague about it.

And to the person above me even though this is a bit off topic but I can't fathom how you had 90 hours of gameplay assuming it is only Origins. I think the most I've had so far is 35 and that's because I did most sidequests and played on nightmare :P

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Well, it's a bit late, but I've just finished DAO now. :wizard:

Standing out the most in retrospective:
  • Morrigan when she told me (in her way) that she is my friend.
  • The moment when Leliana and Morrigan came to free me from Fort Drakon. I
    tried to escape alone before (well, with Alistair but he doesn't count)
    and failed. I thought I'd die in this castle, but the two friends came
    to help me even though they never got along with each other very well.
  • When Morrigan left me just before the final battle. I had counted on her
    and knew she liked me. It was a real shock. You think you know someone and then you don't...and the final battle was boring without her.
  • I liked the rescue Queen Anora and being captured quest, because
    it was not just the typical hacking and slashing.
  • The story ofJeowan, because I didn't expect him to show up in another quest and I had the impression that my decisions really influenced the story.
  • The Landsmeet when Queen Anora betrayed me. I was angry that I didn't have the opportunity to kill her, but at least I could chop off Loghains head.
What I would like to see in future:
  • More of Morrigan. It may be complicated to convince her, but I would love to see her again in
    my party in the end. Anyway, at least I hope she will be able to
    remember at the right moment how close we were as friends. 
  • More conversations at less fixed points in game and perhaps even romances and/or hate and betrayal between party member NPCs.
  • A main quest in which the main character is not the total hero that saves everything and everyone. Perhaps I might fall in disgrace, nobody might like me any longer because I let Alistair die, and there might be some other, new hero that is so noble in comparison to me. I might become a depressed drunk and so bitter that even Leliana leaves me...but then perhaps someone I'd least expect could show up and help me on my feet again. Just an example...
  • In general more quests with surprising turns and unusual things to do. DAO had too many linearly progressing quests where only the strength and power of the enemies changed. Why must almost every quest end in a predictable and stereotypical boss fight, where the boss is ridiculously strong? -- No puzzles, though.
  • Party members doing unusual things or developing hitherto unknown abilities. 

Modifié par Lira Tasuri , 29 mai 2010 - 12:39 .


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I just played through for the first time and while I loved the game I felt pretty jipped at how unimportant your origin seemed like in the storyline.  I played City Elf, and what did it matter past the opening scene?  I got some special dialog boxes during the game, Shianni/Cyrion reacted a little differently to me during the Alienage questline near the end, and at the end of the game Cyrion was there to talk to me.   That's it.  I know being a human male/female noble can change the landmeets outcome, but it felt like there wasn't really anything special - despite the fact I chose absolutely every option related to helping my people during the game, including my boon at the end, all I got was a 3 line chat with Cyrion and some text in the epilogue. 

While it's not one moment in paticular, I just think pretty much every interaction with other City Elves past the intro was extremely unfufilling.   Not being able to contact them at all until very far into the game was annoying, but it made me look forward to the Unrest questline much more.  I was sorely dissapointed.  I don't intend to play through other origins so I don't know if this is the case for them all, but it should matter more than you being spoken to a little differently by some NPCs.   The most striking example of this was a conversation with Shianni after killing the guy running the quarantine where I said we'd chat about what has happened to eachother over drinks or something like that.  Of course, that did nothing and there's no option whatsoever to do anything of the sort.  Something like that would've been a very nice touch, something small but very interesting for just about anyone interested in feeling like their origin matters.

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I just dont understand the Mother, from the looks she was a human female before turned.... so how it comes she spits Children instead of Hurlocks, or if she wasn't a human female, what race she was then?

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@ Anal Bandit: I played Normal difficulty and played through two bits of downloadable content. (I think it was Shale and the Grey Warden fortress.)



I usually explore every little bit of an area before I move on---for instance, in the many instances where there were multiple paths in the caves, I went through them all. This definitely increased my time played. I also talked to each character without skipping and took a while in combat.



But that's just me. I usually take a while to finish RPGs. Hell, I'm playing KOTOR now and I'm already at 9 hours---and I barely entered the Sith base on Taris.



Keeping this post on topic however, in addition to finding out the deal with Morrigan, it would be nice if there were more surprises in future games, such as a Warden having to sacrifice themselves to destroy an Archdemon. However, WITHOUT any of the party members themselves leaving.



If someone had to die, having a choice in the matter would also be nice. ^.^

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recieving the "master warden" achievment while playing "drkspwn chrncle". Teamkiller of the year award?

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I've not that far into the game itself. However, I do remember the line 'I will carry you screaming an kicking to Ostagar' (or something similar) that Duncan said to me when I refused to become a Grey Warden as a Dalish Elf. The whole Dalish Elf story and background touches me and moves for some reason as well, especially the story about the Halla.



And even if I haven't entered the Fade yet, the Fade seems very interesting indeed.








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Absolutely amazing game. The standout moments for me where the character interactions - really amazing how your writers and artists managed to make millions of players of this game fall in love and care about so many of the characters in the game! The characters are deep and interesting, and charming, in many ways. The story has interesting and unexpected turns, and a dozen ways to solve any challenges - that I really love. Whether it is using persuasion, cunning, a little sexual innuendo, how the NPC's in your party sometimes interact to change the course of events, whatever...WOW. Really above and beyond my expectations of a game.



The romance, and bonding between party members, I would like to see further developed, just as far as their interactions amongst themselves affecting the story, etc. I love that I can play the game over and over and be a totally different character - will I be a brazen, smart ass noble and sleep my way through the story (and various NPC's :P), or whatever - that's real role-playing!



Definitely the best game I've ever played!

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When the flower lady in denerim talks about why she left orlais and how when you say something along the lines he has power so its ok if he wants to do bad things.Then she says you would like it in orlais.I would love to be in orlais abusing power or stopping those who abuse it.Going against a chevilair in thier country causing many problems.


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I would also like to see Crows recruits killing each other to earn membership/stay alive

Also would love to see a huge assassination operation like that of which zevran tells.

*maybe be part of it*

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I loved how you could set up the tactics so that you or your npcs could come to the aid of someone in trouble, Sten and Alistair saved my pc many times in battle. As with others, I enjoyed the banter between npcs when we were traveling and some of the comments were priceless.



Lira Tasurti said:

A main quest in which the main character is not the total hero that saves everything and everyone.




I agree, it seemed wrong to me that my Grey Warden was the only one ever given credit, or thanked for helping someone. I think the writers should have included the npcs that were with me, not just ignored their contributions.



Over all however, this was one of the best games I've ever played, and will continue to enjoy for a long time.


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I would love it if in a future game as a quest you could find an ancient elven site. How did the elves live before the humans? Were they really immortal? Did they live in cities at all or did they live like the Dalish? It would be great to have a side quest were you find eleven artifacts that maybe tell more of the lore and what happened when elves met humans for the first time. I also would like to learn more about the Darkspawn.