Aller au contenu

Photo

What about Zevran?


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
44 réponses à ce sujet

#1
akrep77

akrep77
  • Members
  • 43 messages
Hello friends,

Well we know Oghren will be with us on Awakening, but what about Zevran? When I finished the game, only Zevran said he will remain with me. I romanced with Morrigan but she left as you know, Leliana will go after Sacred Urn thing, Dog won't be with us as announced earlier, Sten will go back to his homeland and Wynne will remain with the new king & queen.

So, I had an army of companions but only Zevran will remain with me. However Bioware says he won't with us during our adventures of Awakening. Isn't that weird?

Also, what's the exact timeframe of the Awakening? Does it focus AFTER the archdemon's slain or what?

Thanks!

#2
Guest_Eli-da-Mage_*

Guest_Eli-da-Mage_*
  • Guests
It has been said many times the other companions may cameo and tell you the problem and yes its set a few months after the archdemon was slain. I imagine Zevran doesnt want to draw crow attention.

#3
Zabaniya

Zabaniya
  • Members
  • 443 messages
There are numerous threads about this.

But to summarize things quickly, Zevran:
-Can be killed in a few parts of the game. Oghren (supposedly) in only one, and it's extremely hard to do; some say it's not even possible without the use of codes
-My self-explanation for it (as for my story as Zevran also said he'd remain, along with Leli) is that Zev had urgent business in Antiva (likewise with Lel in Orlais) so he took a temporary leave, unless he pops up in Awakening, then my explanation is that he found his calling in the Pearl. But it's up to you how you want to interpret it.

Timeframe of Awakening is after the archdemon died, several months after.

Modifié par Zabaniya, 09 mars 2010 - 10:54 .


#4
blademaster7

blademaster7
  • Members
  • 1 596 messages
They better give a damn good explanation about Zevran, Leliana and Dog.



Did anyone ask about them in the live chat?

#5
xzxzxz701

xzxzxz701
  • Members
  • 648 messages
They will explain it in Awakening but for now just roleplay with it, I just pretened that Zevran was discovered by the Crows again and has gone into hideing until they leave him alone.

#6
Dave of Canada

Dave of Canada
  • Members
  • 17 484 messages

Zabaniya wrote...

There are numerous threads about this.

But to summarize things quickly, Zevran:
-Can be killed in a few parts of the game. Oghren (supposedly) in only one, and it's extremely hard to do; some say it's not even possible without the use of codes
-My self-explanation for it (as for my story as Zevran also said he'd remain, along with Leli) is that Zev had urgent business in Antiva (likewise with Lel in Orlais) so he took a temporary leave, unless he pops up in Awakening, then my explanation is that he found his calling in the Pearl. But it's up to you how you want to interpret it.

Timeframe of Awakening is after the archdemon died, several months after.


I think even if you killed Oghren, he'd be back.

#7
Zabaniya

Zabaniya
  • Members
  • 443 messages

Dave of Canada wrote...

Zabaniya wrote...

There are numerous threads about this.

But to summarize things quickly, Zevran:
-Can be killed in a few parts of the game. Oghren (supposedly) in only one, and it's extremely hard to do; some say it's not even possible without the use of codes
-My self-explanation for it (as for my story as Zevran also said he'd remain, along with Leli) is that Zev had urgent business in Antiva (likewise with Lel in Orlais) so he took a temporary leave, unless he pops up in Awakening, then my explanation is that he found his calling in the Pearl. But it's up to you how you want to interpret it.

Timeframe of Awakening is after the archdemon died, several months after.


I think even if you killed Oghren, he'd be back.


Yeah, he is.  Also forgot to add that Bioware intended to flesh out Oghren more since he was like the second to last character (or last for those who didn't get Log) to obtain for a majority of the population.

#8
Cuthlan

Cuthlan
  • Members
  • 2 427 messages

blademaster7 wrote...

They better give a damn good explanation about Zevran, Leliana and Dog.



Or what? Posted Image

#9
5Warlocks

5Warlocks
  • Members
  • 128 messages
It's been enough time since the Archdemon's fall that Oghren has not only become a father, but grown restless in the role. Barring something we don't know about Dwarf physiology being introduced, or a plot hole, that means it's been 9-10 months. Close to a year. That's enough time for things to come up and priorities to shift. Doesn't contradict any of the epilogues, IMO.

#10
MiSsSmOkEy20

MiSsSmOkEy20
  • Members
  • 312 messages
The only ones who stayed at my ending were Alistair, Zevran and Dog. Oghren went with his "old flame", Wynne went with Shale, Leliana went into the deep roads, Sten went home, Morrigan left, and my PC married Alistair.

#11
Jawson

Jawson
  • Members
  • 114 messages
This is typical of Bioware's expansions. They basically disregard the original campaign, and go in some other lamer direction, unfortunately. However they do seem to listen to this community somewhat, maybe they will do more to include characters in the next expansion, unlikely, but maybe.

#12
RPGmom28

RPGmom28
  • Members
  • 1 466 messages
Yeah, wondering about what happens with Alistair in the expansion if you made Anora queen and went off into the sunset with Alistair to be Grey Wardens together.

#13
TheRealIncarnal

TheRealIncarnal
  • Members
  • 475 messages
Zev's dead baby! *rides off on motor cycle*

#14
Spitz6860

Spitz6860
  • Members
  • 573 messages
He died, I killed him, end of story, thank you, good bye.

#15
Megbear

Megbear
  • Members
  • 25 messages

RPGmom28 wrote...

Yeah, wondering about what happens with Alistair in the expansion if you made Anora queen and went off into the sunset with Alistair to be Grey Wardens together.


me too, all the cut scenes I saw so far have Alistair as King so it is curious... Unless something happened to Anora (maybe she tragically fell down the stairs and die :devil: ) and so Alistiar need to become King for Ferelden ? My character is an elf and I'm wondering how it will play out with the "riding off to the sunset" ending!

#16
KnightofPhoenix

KnightofPhoenix
  • Members
  • 21 527 messages
He could be the "dark wolf".

#17
Guest_Eli-da-Mage_*

Guest_Eli-da-Mage_*
  • Guests
If Alistair didnt want to be King he could abdictate to any noble. Most likely Bann Teagan or Eamon. If he just picked a commoner i doubt the Landsmeet would accept it unless they had some really marvellous talents or achievements. ( apparently saving Fereldan doesn't count as one)

#18
errant_knight

errant_knight
  • Members
  • 8 256 messages

Megbear wrote...

RPGmom28 wrote...

Yeah, wondering about what happens with Alistair in the expansion if you made Anora queen and went off into the sunset with Alistair to be Grey Wardens together.


me too, all the cut scenes I saw so far have Alistair as King so it is curious... Unless something happened to Anora (maybe she tragically fell down the stairs and die :devil: ) and so Alistiar need to become King for Ferelden ? My character is an elf and I'm wondering how it will play out with the "riding off to the sunset" ending!


At the risk of making a point that's been made many times before, if you made Alistair king, you will see Alistair ruling/leading troops, if you chose Anora, then she, or the commander of her armies will be seen. Just because they showed the most common choice, doesn't mean it's the only possibility.

#19
Guest_Eli-da-Mage_*

Guest_Eli-da-Mage_*
  • Guests

TheRealIncarnal wrote...

Zev's dead baby! *rides off on motor cycle*

There were motorcycles in Fereldan and i walked all over the country to save it! Two can play at that game!
*Fires Nuke at Antiva*

#20
Megbear

Megbear
  • Members
  • 25 messages

errant_knight wrote...

Megbear wrote...

RPGmom28 wrote...

Yeah, wondering about what happens with Alistair in the expansion if you made Anora queen and went off into the sunset with Alistair to be Grey Wardens together.


me too, all the cut scenes I saw so far have Alistair as King so it is curious... Unless something happened to Anora (maybe she tragically fell down the stairs and die :devil: ) and so Alistiar need to become King for Ferelden ? My character is an elf and I'm wondering how it will play out with the "riding off to the sunset" ending!


At the risk of making a point that's been made many times before, if you made Alistair king, you will see Alistair ruling/leading troops, if you chose Anora, then she, or the commander of her armies will be seen. Just because they showed the most common choice, doesn't mean it's the only possibility.



Thanks for taking the risk errant!! =] You make the lives of us who don't check every post much easier..

#21
Guest_Eli-da-Mage_*

Guest_Eli-da-Mage_*
  • Guests
I imagine Alistair will also be the canon for origin choices if you play as an Orlesian.

#22
EmperorSahlertz

EmperorSahlertz
  • Members
  • 8 809 messages
If you didn't make Alistair King he probably just replaces your random Warden Captain and becomes you Second in Command in Vigil's Keep (Yes, you can be a Second in Command without being in the player's party...).

#23
Xandurpein

Xandurpein
  • Members
  • 3 045 messages

Eli-da-Mage wrote...

I imagine Alistair will also be the canon for origin choices if you play as an Orlesian.


It's possible that Alistair will be canon if you play Awakening without importing a save from Orgins if that is even possible, but as far as I understand it is that if you play an Orlesian because you did Ultimate Sacrifice with your character from DA:O, then the world will still be as it was in your DA:O when the Orlesian knight comes to Fereldan.

#24
Xandurpein

Xandurpein
  • Members
  • 3 045 messages

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

If you didn't make Alistair King he probably just replaces your random Warden Captain and becomes you Second in Command in Vigil's Keep (Yes, you can be a Second in Command without being in the player's party...).


I am guessing that there will be a reason for Alistair not being present at all if he is a Grey Warden, same with Loghain. Doesn't it say somewhere in the end that alistair gets called away to Wiesshaupt after a while if he remains with the Grey Wardens or something like that.

#25
KnightofPhoenix

KnightofPhoenix
  • Members
  • 21 527 messages

Xandurpein wrote...

Eli-da-Mage wrote...

I imagine Alistair will also be the canon for origin choices if you play as an Orlesian.


It's possible that Alistair will be canon if you play Awakening without importing a save from Orgins if that is even possible, but as far as I understand it is that if you play an Orlesian because you did Ultimate Sacrifice with your character from DA:O, then the world will still be as it was in your DA:O when the Orlesian knight comes to Fereldan.


Unfortunately, that's no longer the case.
It has been confirmed that you can't import the decisions of your dead warden. When you start with an Orlesian, it will be set in a "default" version, which you cannot influence.