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[SpectreSeven]

I'm curious to see the opinions of the BioWare Community on Bad Company 2 and Modern Warfare 2.

I think BC2 is much better than MW2 -

• It's not as boring
• Better graphics
• Better community
• No hackers
• Better gameplay
• MUCH more realistic
• Vehicles
• Free DLCs
• Single player is longer, better story

I could list tons of stuff, but I want to hear your opinion now!

[R-F]

well i've only played BC2 for like 2 hours and so far i don't really like it. but i'm also not really in the mood for video games, too much crap going on.

[Oak Tree Leaf]

I could be wrong, but the only difference I've noticed, is one has vehicles and one doesn't?



You still get unlockable weapons and such, knife kills, ranks....

[SpectreSeven]

jynthor wrote...

I think you are kind of biased.

I've played both. BC2 is much better than MW2.

[Jonp382]

BC2 beta didn't do it for me. Haven't tried MW2.

[medlish]

MW2 could have been fine if they didn't pull their multiplayer stuff and just let it be like it was in MW1. BC2 doesn't interest me because I don't like vehicles in shooters. It's fun for some time but I like good firefights more than vehicle fighting.

[AshedMan]

BC2 is far superior if only for the destructible environments. There are many other reasons why I prefer it, but that's the main one.

[boomgosthedino]

Mw2 hate it COD died after COD2. BC2 I think is pretty cool, but hate how everyone just camps and snipes. But I guess BC2 is better but really I don't like ether one that much..

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

v1K0 wrote...

jynthor wrote...

I think you are kind of biased.

I've played both. BC2 is much better than MW2.

I think I have to agree with jynthor, every point you pointed out in your original post is a bunch of crap because nearly everyone of those points (except vehicles of course) is better in MW2. The only thing better about BC2 is that it has vehicles (which are poorly done btw) and destructible environments, the controls are sloppy, multiplayer is buggy and the game is just no fun to play.

MW2 is overall a tighter game, sure it may have its problems but it has nowhere near as many as BC2. 

[SithLordExarKun]

Being a veteran at COD i would say BC2 by far is the superior game, its not a simply run and shoot game, tactics and team work is required.



Really i have played COD multiplayer since COD2 and every COD game is identical to one another. Hell the only difference between COD WAW and MW2 was the setting and weapons, everything else was the exact same.



The thing is MW2 or any previous COD didn't felt like a full scale war whereas BC2 felt like a full scale war with huge amounts of people going at each other with pretty much everything from weapons, to vehicles and artillery.

[AshedMan]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...
MW2 is overall a tighter game, sure it may have its problems but it has nowhere near as many as BC2. 

The only problems with BC2 have come from the EA servers and server connectivity (all of which will be/have been patched).

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

AshedMan wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...
MW2 is overall a tighter game, sure it may have its problems but it has nowhere near as many as BC2. 

The only problems with BC2 have come from the EA servers and server connectivity (all of which will be/have been patched).

All I know is when I shoot somebody he dies 5 seconds later, explosives rarely hit even when your target is right in the middle of the blast and when I run somebody down on a 4 wheeler I die instead.

[SithLordExarKun]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

AshedMan wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...
MW2 is overall a tighter game, sure it may have its problems but it has nowhere near as many as BC2. 

The only problems with BC2 have come from the EA servers and server connectivity (all of which will be/have been patched).

All I know is when I shoot somebody he dies 5 seconds later, explosives rarely hit even when your target is right in the middle of the blast and when I run somebody down on a 4 wheeler I die instead.

Thats because BC2 is a far more challenging game than MW2, you cant simply be  rambo in BC2.

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

AshedMan wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...
MW2 is overall a tighter game, sure it may have its problems but it has nowhere near as many as BC2. 

The only problems with BC2 have come from the EA servers and server connectivity (all of which will be/have been patched).

All I know is when I shoot somebody he dies 5 seconds later, explosives rarely hit even when your target is right in the middle of the blast and when I run somebody down on a 4 wheeler I die instead.

Thats because BC2 is a far more challenging game than MW2, you cant simply be  rambo in BC2.

How does being Rambo have anything to do with buggy and broken gameplay? I dont quite get what you are trying to say here, are you trying to say the BC2 is better because fighting buggy and broken gameplay adds to the challenge?

[SithLordExarKun]

I already said you can't simply run and gun and expect to be a champ in BC2. The gameplay in battlefield games are very different from call of duties. In Battlefield, its about tactics and teamwork to win whatever mode you are playing and the battles being massive scale. Its ALOT easier to get killed in Battlefield than in COD.



In COD, for the most part its "pew pew pew" to get the highest score and the only mode where you actually try to work together is search and destroy.

The only bug i came across was the game freezing up sometimes, other than that i didn't encounter any bugs yet(they can be patched).



That being said a difficult game like battlefield isn't for everyone.

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

I already said you can't simply run and gun and expect to be a champ in BC2. The gameplay in battlefield games are very different from call of duties. In Battlefield, its about tactics and teamwork to win whatever mode you are playing and the battles being massive scale. Its ALOT easier to get killed in Battlefield than in COD.

In COD, for the most part its "pew pew pew" to get the highest score and the only mode where you actually try to work together is search and destroy.
The only bug i came across was the game freezing up sometimes, other than that i didn't encounter any bugs yet(they can be patched).

That being said a difficult game like battlefield isn't for everyone.

How does running and gunning have anything to do with what I just said? You are totally ignoring the point at hand. You claim that you dont experience any bugs and I would like to know which platform do you play on? I play on the Xbox 360 and it is very buggy and very laggy, as I said earlier I can shoot someone and they die a few seconds later, explosives are useless because even if your enemy is right in the middle of the blast you will be lucky if the take even any damage at all and whenever I hit someone on a quadbike I die instead of them.

However even with the game at its buggy state I will still call BS on your claim that BC2 takes more skill and is harder than MW2. BC2 is a snipers paradise, with the wide open areas it is so easy to rack up kills and defend the explosive cache with a sniper rifle, sure it might take an enemy a few seconds to die after I shoot them in the head but they still die regardless.

But even with an Assualt Rifle the game is not more difficult than MW2, regardless of the game most players tactics do not change, sure BC2 puts more emphasis on working together but if you arent in a clan or group odds are most of the players playing with you wont want to work together, it is the same with MW2, it is not like you cant work together in other game modes in MW2 other than search and destroy and of course people who work together in MW2 are going to be harder to defeat as well.

Modifié par Gandalf-the-Fabulous, 11 mars 2010 - 09:52 .

[Haasth]

Having played both, though not having the actual Bad Company 2 game... I much prefer Bad Company 2.
Even though I have had quite a few graphical problems with it for god knows why when it was at the beta, it is much more enjoyable to me.

I have always preferred the Battlefield franchise over the Call of Duty one by that. The scale is bigger, it is generally more realistic and I like the add of vehicles. 

[SithLordExarKun]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...



How does running and gunning have anything to do with what I just said? You are totally ignoring the point at hand. You claim that you dont experience any bugs and I would like to know which platform do you play on? I play on the Xbox 360 and it is very buggy and very laggy, as I said earlier I can shoot someone and they die a few seconds later, explosives are useless because even if your enemy is right in the middle of the blast you will be lucky if the take even any damage at all and whenever I hit someone on a quadbike I die instead of them.

However even with the game at its buggy state I will still call BS on your claim that BC2 takes more skill and is harder than MW2. BC2 is a snipers paradise, with the wide open areas it is so easy to rack up kills and defend the explosive cache with a sniper rifle, sure it might take an enemy a few seconds to die after I shoot them in the head but they still die regardless.

But even with an Assualt Rifle the game is not more difficult than MW2, regardless of the game most players tactics do not change, sure BC2 puts more emphasis on working together but if you arent in a clan or group odds are most of the players playing with you wont want to work together, it is the same with MW2, it is not like you cant work together in other game modes in MW2 other than search and destroy and of course people who work together in MW2 are going to be harder to defeat as well.

Or maybe you just suck at the game, no offence but being a veteran of both games, its alot harder to not get killed in BC2 and in winning the game.

And yes, the tactics in BC2 and MW2 are vastly different, you can't be a one man army in BC2 like you easily can in MW2 even if you are that good . In MW2, its mostly team death match where the two team tries to constantly kill each other and score the highest point, in BC2 full scale battles like rush or conquest you are required to work as a team to complete the objective, if you are suppose to defend a station you do so and if someone plants a bomb its your team members job to diffuse the bomb while you and other members keep the attackers at bay.

The thing is it isn't essental to work together in MW2 , a single skilled lone wolf can turn the tide of battle but it is vital and pivotal to work together as a team and squad to complete the objectives in BC2 or the result will be failure.

I play on the PC anyways and the only bug i got is the game randomly freezing which according to some people is related to the onboard sound card.

Look i believe i already stated it earlier, if you are a huge fan of MW2 and like its core mechanics you are not going to like BC2. MW2 isn't bad, but its overhyped and overrated beyond belief, its the same exact game as COD4 but with different maps and weapons.

Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 11 mars 2010 - 12:32 .

[wrexingcrew]

I don't own either but I've played the console versions of both (multiplayer only). I prefer the maps and sense of scale in BC2 from what I've seen, as well as the feel to the controls, but MW2 has some strong points too. For one thing, at least on 360 MW2 plays far more like a PC shooter than any other console shooter I've tried - the precision and smoothness is impressive. Then again, the frantic quality to BC2 feels more involving and less obviously game-like. If I had to get one (and I might), it'd be BC2, but I can certainly understand why someone would prefer MW2.

[SpectreSeven]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

• I play on the Xbox 360 and it is very buggy and very laggy, as I said earlier I can shoot someone and they die a few seconds later, explosives are useless because even if your enemy is right in the middle of the blast you will be lucky if the take even any damage at all and whenever I hit someone on a quadbike I die instead of them.
• However even with the game at its buggy state I will still call BS on your claim that BC2 takes more skill and is harder than MW2.
• BC2 is a snipers paradise, with the wide open areas it is so easy to rack up kills
• and defend the explosive cache with a sniper rifle
•  most players tactics do not change,
• sure BC2 puts more emphasis on working together but if you arent in a clan or group odds are most of the players playing with you wont want to work together, it is the same with MW2

1. I play on the 360 too and I never get lag. Your connection must be terrible.
2. Oh really? Why do most CoD players complain that BC2 is too hard?
3. That's exactly what CoD players think and try to do, absolutely ignoring the objective and focusing on KILL KILL KILL
4. Refer to 3.
5.That's because most people are so used to being a lone wolf in CoD, it takes time to completely change your tactics
6. Refer to 5.

[AshedMan]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

All I know is when I shoot somebody he dies 5 seconds later, explosives rarely hit even when your target is right in the middle of the blast and when I run somebody down on a 4 wheeler I die instead.

This happens in multiplayer?  It sounds like either you have poor internet or the server you are connected to has extremely poor internet.  If I shoot a guy, he falls down dead that instant.  It doesn't get more responsive then that.  I'm on PC.

Modifié par AshedMan, 11 mars 2010 - 10:29 .

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

v1K0 wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

• I play on the Xbox 360 and it is very buggy and very laggy, as I said earlier I can shoot someone and they die a few seconds later, explosives are useless because even if your enemy is right in the middle of the blast you will be lucky if the take even any damage at all and whenever I hit someone on a quadbike I die instead of them.
• However even with the game at its buggy state I will still call BS on your claim that BC2 takes more skill and is harder than MW2.
• BC2 is a snipers paradise, with the wide open areas it is so easy to rack up kills
  
• and defend the explosive cache with a sniper rifle
  
•  most players tactics do not change,
  
• sure BC2 puts more emphasis on working together but if you arent in a clan or group odds are most of the players playing with you wont want to work together, it is the same with MW2

1. I play on the 360 too and I never get lag. Your connection must be terrible.
2. Oh really? Why do most CoD players complain that BC2 is too hard?
3. That's exactly what CoD players think and try to do, absolutely ignoring the objective and focusing on KILL KILL KILL
4. Refer to 3.
5.That's because most people are so used to being a lone wolf in CoD, it takes time to completely change your tactics
6. Refer to 5.

[*]1. how come I get so much lag on BC2 and not on MW2? Sure my connection may not be the best but the fact still remains that I get little to no lag on MW2 and lots of lag on BC2 meaning that the MW2 servers are much better.
[*]2. I have not seen anyone complain the BC2 is too hard, the only people I have seen claim it is hard are the BC2 fanboys who are trying to stick up for the game.
[*]3. Seems you diddnt really read my post as I actually use the Sniper Rifle to effectively defend the base and cover my squad
[*]4. refer to 3.
[*]5. No real argument here but still unless you are in a clan odds are most of your team is going to go lone wolf, just like MW2, and if you are in a clan in MW2 you will probably work together and thus be harder to kill, just like BC2.
[*]6. MW2 still has you playing as a team in games like domination and search and destroy, the only difference is that the battle takes place in smaller spaces.

[fairandbalancedfan]

Not this piece of s**t argument again. I thought I ditched you in youtube!

Modifié par fairandbalancedfan, 12 mars 2010 - 02:32 .

[SithLordExarKun]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

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[*]1. how come I get so much lag on BC2 and not on MW2? Sure my connection may not be the best but the fact still remains that I get little to no lag on MW2 and lots of lag on BC2 meaning that the MW2 servers are much better.

For one, MW2 doesn't have "servers", its a "P2P" network and if you are using match making for BC2, you could have been linked to a host extremely far from your hometown thus the resulting lag.

I for one have no lag when playing BC2 on a dedicated server in my hometown.

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...
[*]
[*]2. I have not seen anyone complain the BC2 is too hard, the only people I have seen claim it is hard are the BC2 fanboys who are trying to stick up for the game.

  Now you're just trolling, its COD fanboys like you that are complaining the game is "so hard to kill" and i have yet to see a BC2 fanboy complain that the game is "hard".

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...
[*]5. No real argument here but still unless you are in a clan odds are most of your team is going to go lone wolf, just like MW2, and if you are in a clan in MW2 you will probably work together and thus be harder to kill, just like BC2.

No, the entire  team  is required to work together in BC2 to win a match, not just one or 2 squads and as i substantiated in an earlier post, it is essential or the result is failute.
It is still possible to take out an entire team working together in MW2, in BC2 however, that will not happen. 
You obviously played very little of BC2 so why the hell are you coming up with irrationale points to try to compare MW2 to BC2?

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...
[*]
[*]6. MW2 still has you playing as a team in games like domination and search and destroy, the only difference is that the battle takes place in smaller spaces.

No, most people are still lone wolves in those game modes and it is possible for one man to turn the tide of battle killing the other team.
[*]The difference is the battle being much more destructive and fullscale in BC2 along with the fact that the entire team actually works together. 
[*]In MW2 and all COD's, its just kill kill kill pew pew pew your enemies, in BC2 is completely something else.

Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 13 mars 2010 - 02:38 .