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the CE: a monetary shortcoming (a rant)


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ImperialOperative

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Rivercurse wrote...

Dunno what class you play as, but I take it you've never used the revenant with the accuracy upgrade?


That is a LMG not an AR.

Collector AR is the best AR in the game.

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ImperialOperative wrote...


That is a LMG not an AR.

Collector AR is the best AR in the game.


Although you're absolutely right, the revenant still occupies the same weapon slot as ARs.  For this game's purposes of weapon classification, the revenant is still an AR.  That being said, I personally prefer the Collector AR to the revenant anyway.


I'm not too bothered about the fixed helmets so I thought the armour was fairly cool.  I woulda preferred a toggle, but I prefer this sytem to DA:O's, where helmets are ALWAYS off in conversations.

I, like a lot of people, was under the impression that the Cerberus Network card was exclusive to the CE, but a dev cleared that up on the forums before launch.

The art book was really nice, most of the material in there I haven't seen anywhere else.  Definately a worthy addition to the CE in my opinion.  It's not meant to be a coffee table centerpiece, it's meant to be a nice little extra for fans.  

The bonus DVD, I'll whole-heartedly agree, was sorely lacking, especially after the ME1 bonus DVD.  Most of it was snippets of interviews that were available elsewhere.  Definately a let down.

The comic was a nice touch, I guess.  I've been collecting the regular issues anyway, but I had to order the first one from the US before I found a UK retailer that sold them so it was nice that I got to read the copy that came with the CE before the one I had imported arrived.  That being said, it's pretty weak to include something that goves you only a quarter of it's content and asks you to buy another 3 issues to finish the story.  Nice marketing touch, bit of a slap in the face to collectors, since most of the "die-hard" collectors will be buying the comics anyway.  The best thing I can say about it is that it has a cover art variant, making it a bit more collectable.

The premium tin package was nice, but the carboard slip-case was a let down.  The slip-case's cover art was much nicer than the standard box-art (I'm not one of those that hates the regular art, but I won't deny that the CE is much nicer).  The art on the tin game box is nice as well.  The whole point of the tin package is that it looks nicer.  A little added extra for those willing to shell out a bit more cash.  It's not intended to protect your disks any better (indeed some people have expressed worry when removing disks from the CE case as they're a bit tight and can feel like the disk is about to snap if you're not careful).

Overall I'd say the collector's edition was worth the money (£55.99 as opposed to £39.99 for the regular edition).  That being said, I consider myself a ME collector, and it's us that it was aimed at, so It wouldn't surprise me if most people who bought the CE were to say they were happy with it...

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Bob5312 wrote...

WrexEffex wrote...

Somebody call the waaaaaambulence.


Sorry, but is this kind of considered funny?  Did I miss that?  When did rudeness and casual cruelty become substitutes for wit?  It isn't even original; it's heavily over-used.


Yes, it is funny.  Yes, you did miss it.  Five minutes after apes began speaking.  It's still funny.



On topic, the OP and every singer whiner who is unhappy with the CE need to dry their tears and hush.  The contents were not secret.  You knew what you were buying when you spent the money.  I bought the digital CE and I'm happy with my choice.  The Cerberus network alone makes it worth it.  But then again, being an adult, I am capable of reason and reading and because of those things, I knew what I was buying before I spent the money.



So, to sum things up:  Somebody call the waaaaaaambulence.

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ImperialOperative wrote...

Rivercurse wrote...

Dunno what class you play as, but I take it you've never used the revenant with the accuracy upgrade?


That is a LMG not an AR.

Collector AR is the best AR in the game.


If the revenant is an LMG then why is it affected by the AR accuracy upgrade?  Why does it show up in game as an AR, and why is it listed as an AR on the ME wiki?  :mellow:

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Wrapping all this up, it's the last time im getting a CE from Bioware
unless they choose to change it up somehow.  I leave the boards to you
all to add your thoughts and comments.  And to anyone who actually read
all that, heres a cookie:  (::)

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This thread has failed. The ME2 CE costs the same as the ME1 CE did when it was released and it comes with MORE STUFF. Get over it.

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Rivercurse wrote...

ImperialOperative wrote...

Rivercurse wrote...

Dunno what class you play as, but I take it you've never used the revenant with the accuracy upgrade?


That is a LMG not an AR.

Collector AR is the best AR in the game.


If the revenant is an LMG then why is it affected by the AR accuracy upgrade?  Why does it show up in game as an AR, and why is it listed as an AR on the ME wiki?  :mellow:


Because making an extra class of weapons for ONE weapon would have been pointless. That doesn't change the fact that the Revenant IS an LMG.

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Rivercurse

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lol, ok, IT JUST IS.



Im not gonna argue with that.

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The making of DVD sucked. It was a commercial and nothing like what I expected or hoped it would be. I think anyone who agrees should not feel the least bit hesitant in letting Bioware know.



I wanted a making of and behind the scenes DVD not a commercial.



If I lived in Edmonton I'd throw that disc Tron style at the Bio-building. I plunked down ready to watch it, had a couple beers at the ready, was all stoked ... put the disc in ... lame!



That said I am still glad I got the collector's edition (Xbawks) because of the groovy case. Was it worth an extra 10 bucks? Probably not but a couple Sam Smith's is 10 bucks so not that big of a deal. The box art for the standard version is wretched.

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ImperialOperative wrote...

Rivercurse wrote...

Dunno what class you play as, but I take it you've never used the revenant with the accuracy upgrade?


That is a LMG not an AR.

Collector AR is the best AR in the game.

Kinda like the carnifex isn't a pistol but a hand cannon, and the widow isn't a sniper rifle but an anti-material(?) rifle?

That's incredibly asinine.

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It wasnt that much more expensive then the game itself was really. For the extra stuff you get I think it is worth it.



However I agree I was expecting a bit more from the making of DVD tbh.

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Rivercurse wrote...

lol, ok, IT JUST IS.

Im not gonna argue with that.


Larger rounds, higher rate of fire, higher ammo cap... yes, it is an LMG. The only thing separating it from a real one is the fact that SAWs are extremely accurate if fired shot by shot.
[e]Also generally not used to actually kill, just to keep the enemy with their heads down.

Modifié par Dethateer, 11 mars 2010 - 08:32 .


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Rivercurse

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Yeah it's ok, I get it, IT JUST IS.

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Dethateer wrote...

Rivercurse wrote...

lol, ok, IT JUST IS.

Im not gonna argue with that.


Larger rounds, higher rate of fire, higher ammo cap... yes, it is an LMG. The only thing separating it from a real one is the fact that SAWs are extremely accurate if fired shot by shot.
[e]Also generally not used to actually kill, just to keep the enemy with their heads down.

So similarity to RL weapons is the criterion now? Surely the collector weapon is quite different from our assault rifles?

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*facepalms*

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Heh...wow...OP here. All you greifers make me laugh..(Kudos to Ecael though...srsly made me geffaw...thanks). I mean, i point out that its a rant (in the title no less) and you...what...browse these forums just to post 'waaaambulance' when someone rants about something? Talk about cancer of the forums...

Anyways, thanks to everyone who actually cared enough to post intellectually. And yeah...I'd say the main spur in caring enough to post that long rant was the bonus DVD...i mean, it was the main selling point of the CE - and they said that it would include a behind-the-scenes documentary. I knew what the collectors edition contained (i mean, i posted a pic of it, so obviously i knew)...but people generally don't buy collectors editions for case art, or 1-2 bonus in-game items, and hopefully my reasoning pointed out how incompetent those few people are (good example would be this threads greifers). And as far as buying the CE to support Bioware, i wholeheartedly agree, but this CE (and arguably DA's) was just a waste (Ex: It's kinda like those telemarketers calling you up asking for donations - in the sense that, if i feel strongly enough towards a cause to actually donate to, i will. "Would you like to donate through us right now for $10?" Well, how much are you gonna take as a collectors fee...90%? no thanks. "But we'll send you this free tote bag!" I don't want to be getting the useless stuff that your spending my donation money towards producing more of...) -you all get what I'm saying? I mean, if Bioware really needed its dedicated fan's money to stay afloat, they could simply ask...and I'm sure many people, including myself, would help them out. But with this CE...I personally feel like its a tote bag of crap...and i regret buying it...thats all.

And as far as the Collector Gear...it's certainly arguable whether or not the Collectors AR is the best in game...same argument between the evisicator and claymore. I mean, each weapon is unique...has its own pro's and con's, so each could theoretically be more useful in certain situations (kinda why your bothered with the inventory during each deployment). And the armor...yeah, i dont particularly like it, but it hasn't ever been particularly useful for me either, even on insanity.

Modifié par Dsurian, 12 mars 2010 - 12:24 .


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Dsurian wrote...

Heh...wow...OP here. All you greifers make me laugh..(Kudos to Ecael though...srsly made me geffaw...thanks). I mean, i point out that its a rant (in the title no less) and you...what...browse these forums just to post 'waaaambulance' when someone rants about something? Talk about cancer of the forums...

You're welcome.:lol:

I have the Digital Deluxe Edition from Steam as well as all DLC except the pre-order GameStop bonuses. The soundtrack is nice (where's the rest of it?) - but all in all, I don't really have any regrets in buying it.

Modifié par Ecael, 12 mars 2010 - 07:02 .


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Dethateer wrote...

*facepalms*


I have to go with Deth on this one, guys. The criterion he's using are not "real life weapons," as obviously all mass accelerator firearms are minature railguns and are thus way beyond the feasibility of modern technology, but the classifications of real life weapons based on firing rates, slug size, effective range, and combat role. The "hand cannon" is still a pistol, and the "anti-material rifle" is still a sniper rifle. Those words have nothing to do with their classification, in the same way the M4 is just the name of a specific series of assault rifle models. Light machine gun, however, is a classification of weapon, and the Revenant behaves like one, and is therefore a light machine gun and not an assault rifle. The game says as much. The fact that it takes up the AR slot is merely game mechanics at play.

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The Incisor Rifle will be a nice bonus for the CE.

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Sorry to kind of bring this one off topic but I have a question about the CE game. I tried a search but couldn’t find anything and I’m certain someone had answered this before. I want to make sure of this now since I just saw a bunch of PC CE of the game in the store.



If I get a PC version of ME2 CE, can I use the code to get the Collectors armor and weapon for use on the X-box 360?


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Yup. And you can use it for the PC at the same time.

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thanks!