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Stephenc13

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 Not low tech as in the technology with ships and relays, but the weapons and armors are pretty low tech. Military gear = low tech in the Mass Effect universe

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Kinetic Barriers, mass accerators weapons and ceramic body armor. what are you expecting lazer beams and plasma guns?

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thegreateski

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If you're thinking of lazer beams and power suits then I may have to reach through the internet and slap you.

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It's only low tech if you compare it to Star Trek. But they're all light guns and inverted deflector pulses anyway.

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You guys arent seeing what i mean,

Modern days, we have dragon scale body armor, which greatly minimizes recoil and damage from the bullet... 100 years from now, that technology will be 100 times better.



Kinetic barriers are of course tech for that time



Mass accelerator guns? we already have rail guns, 100 years from now, the technology would better improve.

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What do you want? We already have mass increasing fields to block high-velocity rounds over advance ceramic plates that house instant medical treatment systems and power-assist movement, not to mention internal life-support for hostile enviroments.



Military gear tends to be simple in function in any case because the more advanced and complex something is, the more likely it is to fail and the more difficult it is to fix in an emergency.



Laser based weapons can be easily blocked by reflective coatings, plasma weapons can be redirected by powerful magnetic fields, and particle accelerators (IE Collector Particle beam) are far less efficient and not as good for long engagements. Also, in general, weapons technology on earth has not changed much in the last 100 years. Weapons designed prior to WWI are still in service (M1911 pistol and M2 heavy machine gun).

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Stephenc13 wrote...

 Not low tech as in the technology with ships and relays, but the weapons and armors are pretty low tech. Military gear = low tech in the Mass Effect universe

Yeah that's why I have been making suggestions. Also this is what happens when your shooting guns with black powder and someone throws you something that shoots at the speed of light or faster with almost unlimited power.

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Stephenc13 wrote...

You guys arent seeing what i mean,
Modern days, we have dragon scale body armor, which greatly minimizes recoil and damage from the bullet... 100 years from now, that technology will be 100 times better.

Kinetic barriers are of course tech for that time

Mass accelerator guns? we already have rail guns, 100 years from now, the technology would better improve.

No we don't use dragon scale body armor because you have to individuall glue those and it melts in hot desert places and freazes in cold places has to be at a certin temp at all times. That is why the u.s. didn't buy them.

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SandTrout wrote...
Laser based weapons can be easily blocked by reflective coatings, plasma weapons can be redirected by powerful magnetic fields, and particle accelerators (IE Collector Particle beam) are far less efficient and not as good for long engagements. Also, in general, weapons technology on earth has not changed much in the last 100 years. Weapons designed prior to WWI are still in service (M1911 pistol and M2 heavy machine gun).


Those weapons are efficient and you obviously haven't been doing research. The weapons don't need changing, but maybe the functions have changed

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AdamBoozer wrote...
]No we don't use dragon scale body armor because you have to individuall glue those and it melts in hot desert places and freazes in cold places has to be at a certin temp at all times. That is why the u.s. didn't buy them.


Well, 100 years from now, they would improve it, am I right? or am I right?

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Stephenc13 wrote...

Mass accelerator guns? we already have rail guns, 100 years from now, the technology would better improve.

What makes a rail gun comparable at all to a mass accelerator?
The energy required to fire a slug from a rail gun is enormous, and it still only fires at muzzle velocities of about 2km/sec.  According to the dude outside C-Sec, a mass accelerator fires rounds at speeds of something like .03c.  For comparison, that is about 9000km/sec.

I'd say that is a substantial improvement.

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wait, so a gun that fires a bullet the size of a grain of sand (that causes more damage than bullets we have today) at speeds that make it practically instant, and allow for essentially bottomless clips is low tech?

kinetic barriers are low tech?

biotic implants are low tech?

collapsible weapons are low tech?

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*Ahem*



Wtf you talkin bout?

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In 100 years sir we would have something better. Like that armor upgrade for the ship our armor could be made out of that. It was kool reading that description of it. Carbon nano tubes and dimonds smooshed down by powerful mass effect fields is expensive to coat a star ship but not body armor!

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noobzor99 wrote...

wait, so a gun that fires a bullet the size of a grain of sand (that causes more damage than bullets we have today) at speeds that make it practically instant, and allow for essentially bottomless clips is low tech?
kinetic barriers are low tech?
biotic implants are low tech?
collapsible weapons are low tech?



Did you not read, i said kinetic barriers are correct.
biotic implants, aren't gonna happen
and collapsible weapons are basically what we have now, except with manual labor required

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I want a sword.

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yes everything in mass effect is technically low tech. If any of you were smart and kept up with science today you would know most of this is already possible and bioware took these ideas from real science.

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AdamBoozer wrote...

In 100 years sir we would have something better. Like that armor upgrade for the ship our armor could be made out of that. It was kool reading that description of it. Carbon nano tubes and dimonds smooshed down by powerful mass effect fields is expensive to coat a star ship but not body armor!


I read that entry too, after reading that, I wondered why Shepard didn't buy it for the whole squad.

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literally every military technology although many based on our current weapontry has been highly advanced. Mass accelerators=guns on crack, Hard suits=body armor on crack (b/c can stop bullets on crack fired from guns on crack) and to top it off they have friggin force shields. Basically both offensive and defensive equipment both were greatly advanced.

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AdamBoozer wrote...

Carbon nano tubes and dimonds smooshed down by powerful mass effect fields is expensive to coat a star ship but not body armor!

Nah I bet they have really cheap ways to manufacture diamonds and nano-tubes.
They're both made entirely of carbon, which is one of the most abundant elements in the universe.

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Stephenc13 wrote...
Those weapons are efficient and you obviously haven't been doing research. The weapons don't need changing, but maybe the functions have changed

Which weapons? The PA ones? If you read the ME Codex, it describes that the destructive particle beam from the collector gun uses "scales of magnitude" more energy than standard MA weapons. This is partly due to mass effect fields lowering the mass of the projectile to produce greater velocites durring the accelleration phase of fireing.

Stephenc13 wrote...

AdamBoozer wrote...
]No we
don't use dragon scale body armor because you have to individuall glue
those and it melts in hot desert places and freazes in cold places has
to be at a certin temp at all times. That is why the u.s. didn't buy
them.


Well, 100 years from now, they would improve it, am I right? or am I right?

They have, they're called Hard-suits, and are what Shepard wears into combat.

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AdamBoozer wrote...

yes everything in mass effect is technically low tech. If any of you were smart and kept up with science today you would know most of this is already possible and bioware took these ideas from real science.


Exactly

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Stephenc13 wrote...

Modern days, we have dragon scale body armor, which greatly minimizes recoil and damage from the bullet... 100 years from now, that technology will be 100 times better.


But if you and every other character you fought were nigh on invincible, the game wouldn't be much fun, now would it?

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SandTrout wrote...

Stephenc13 wrote...
Those weapons are efficient and you obviously haven't been doing research. The weapons don't need changing, but maybe the functions have changed

Which weapons? The PA ones? If you read the ME Codex, it describes that the destructive particle beam from the collector gun uses "scales of magnitude" more energy than standard MA weapons. This is partly due to mass effect fields lowering the mass of the projectile to produce greater velocites durring the accelleration phase of fireing.
They have, they're called Hard-suits, and are what Shepard wears into combat.


First off, you didn't pay attention to my post when I wrote about the weapons.
and Hard suits with shields, but no significant physical protection?    (shields --> health = suck)

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Stephenc13 wrote...

AdamBoozer wrote...

In 100 years sir we would have something better. Like that armor upgrade for the ship our armor could be made out of that. It was kool reading that description of it. Carbon nano tubes and dimonds smooshed down by powerful mass effect fields is expensive to coat a star ship but not body armor!


I read that entry too, after reading that, I wondered why Shepard didn't buy it for the whole squad.


Super dense carbon might sound good for body armor, but its still super dense meaning it'd be really really heavy, so although you COULD wear 2in steel armor into combat wouldn't be the best idea.