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[JMan71]

Can't believe I'm about to defend a console user.

SHOCKINGLY, HD TVs are expensive. You can't claim it's his fault for not being able to afford upgrading earlier.

they far less than buying or upgrading a pc for gaming, andthose people have to do that every few years. Dont usually hear them complain.

[Dethateer]

Razvan, need I remind you we're still in a recession?
True, it's not, but I can't afford to upgrade exactly when I want either. Moot point in my case, since at worst I have to settle for medium settings for stuff like Crysis, but still.
[e]The urban legend of "upgrading PCs every two years" is just that. I haven't upgraded mine in 3, and can still run pretty much everything released so far.

Modifié par Dethateer, 11 mars 2010 - 05:59 .

[TSMUK]

nate81 wrote...

I have no idea what your talking about Dethateer. I'm discussing an XBOX problem and never brought up PCs.

The arguement your making makes it sound like a person should have to upgrade their TV to accomodate xbox games. That's like upgrading your sound system for a CD. Of course it's a good idea, but it isn't required for functionality. It's a superficial upgrade.

With this game, it is unplayable on my TV when my 15 other games work perfectly well on it. The game is the cause, not the TV.

you using Xbox 360 scart lead? I read somewhere not for this particular game though that you might be able to get it clearer by using xbox rgb cable instead, it's just a thought apologies if it does not help.

[Temper_Graniteskul]

boardnfool86 wrote...

they clearly only tested games on HD screens, whatever, its just text, why would you stop playing a game because the text is hard to read... isn't it more about the game itself... I have a 42 inch HD tv though so wtf do I know

It can make the game a lot harder to navigate when you can't read the in-context directions or comments. I know I found the first part of Assassin's Creed impossible to get through because I couldn't read the text and had to guess what I was supposed to be doing. It went a lot more smoothly when our old TV finally died and we upgraded to HD. But that was the only reason we did - the old TV stopped working. No reason to replace something that's still just fine for most uses.

If fixing the text is a relatively simple issue, why not ask for it? Doesn't hurt HD users, but it can make the game a lot more enjoyable for those who want to play it but have older TVs.

Modifié par Temper_Graniteskul, 11 mars 2010 - 06:06 .

[Costin_Razvan]

Razvan, need I remind you we're still in a recession?

That excuse is SOO overused it's not funny. Too many people blame their issues at that and not the fact they don't know how to spend their money. You can be surprised how many you can save if you take the time to actually account for every coin you spend.

[Dethateer]

Or... y'know... people actually have money trouble.

[Ackillez]

Ahahah, Razvan you are the best troll/shitposter I've seen on this forum so far, mad props

Modifié par Ackillez, 11 mars 2010 - 06:21 .

[PimplyPete]

Mass Effect 2 isn't the only game to suffer from the "small text" problem. If I remember right, Dead Rising for the 360 also have this issue. I remember playing that on my old 30ish boob-tube TV and I couldn't read anything, then I upgraded a few weeks later and the game (along with every other game) looks soooo much better.



I'm not saying it's right or wrong, it's just the way they do things now, so you might wanna upgrade if you can....otherwise, keep bugging them until they patch it.

[Dethateer]

Ackillez wrote...

Ahahah, Razvan you are the best troll/shitposter I've seen on this forum so far, mad props

What's your issue, guy?

[Ackillez]

Dethateer wrote...

Ackillez wrote...

Ahahah, Razvan you are the best troll/shitposter I've seen on this forum so far, mad props

What's your issue, guy?

I don't have a lot of issues, I just think Razvan is funny and a pretty pro troll.

Modifié par Ackillez, 11 mars 2010 - 06:27 .

[Jigero]

Dethateer wrote...

Jigero wrote...

Why should Bioware care about the handful of people who haven't gotten an HD TV yet? Thats your problem not Biowares, Should Bioware have put Mass Effect on 3000 Floppies because some people might not have disc drives? Or maybe they should have released the game sounds track on Cassette Tape for people with out CD players? Sorry but update or shut up. Not our fault you lets your self you let your self get behind the times.

Can't believe I'm about to defend a console user.
SHOCKINGLY, HD TVs are expensive. You can't claim it's his fault for not being able to afford upgrading earlier.

Bull****, you can get a 19" 720 LCD screen for 143 bucks at Best Buy. probably even cheaper if you buy from Ebay or Newegg.  And if you have money trouble you shouldn't be buying 60 dollar games in the first place.

Modifié par Jigero, 11 mars 2010 - 06:28 .

[nate81]

again, I understand and agree that an HD tv would be better. Still, Mass Effect 2 is the only game I own with this issue. If my t.v. is so bad, then other games should have the same or similar problems, but they do not. Mass Effect 2 is the problem. If Bioware wants to make a product meant specially for HD, then they should say so right on the packaging. One should not have to "research" font size to buy a video game.



PCs and consoles are not comparable in terms of upgrades. XBOX 360 has HD as an option, not a requirement for functionality. On a PC, certain games simply will not play if the PC specs aren't up to a certain minimum. On an XBOX, these specs are fixed and the game developer makes the game to function on the XBOX. This is not even remotely a PC vs. console issue.



I'm in the minority with this problem, so I gave the game to my brother. When I upgrade my t.v. then I'll get the pleasure of enjoying the game. I should not have to wait.

[Dethateer]

Jigero wrote...

Bull****, you can get a 19" 720 LCD screen
for 143 bucks at Best Buy. probably even cheaper if you buy from Ebay
or Newegg.

Ok, I have nothing to say to that.

Nate, those "minimum requirements" are low enough that unless someone has a PC from 2003. We have to shell out 400 bucks every 4 or so years, (which would be about the amount we save from having cheaper games), which is nowhere near as expensive as you consolites make it out to be.

Modifié par Dethateer, 11 mars 2010 - 06:39 .

[0LunarEclipse0]

Either go PC or go HD. I don't have an HDTV for my PS3 yet so it looks like I have to deal until I get that HDTV. Until then I'll enjoy the HD monitor and graphics card on my lovely PC.

[Temper_Graniteskul]

nate81 wrote...

If Bioware wants to make a product meant specially for HD, then they should say so right on the packaging. One should not have to "research" font size to buy a video game.

Yeah, I think that's fair.

[AtreiyaN7]

It kind of sounds like trolling, but if he's serious...eh, too bad?

[Fates end]

Yes, it's annoying. Yes, I wish they would have tested it or put a warning on it. (a small chance I wouldn't have gotten it if I'd known about this problem.) In many games, small text is fine, as they generally tell their story through dialogue. Mass Effect 2 has a codex, though, which plays a fair bit of importance in the plot. But on a SDTV, the codex is nearly unreadable, led to me skipping most of it for my eyes' sake.



Many people don't have the money for HDTV's. And it can be annoying when we're not told that game we bought is unplayable (in certain aspects) because of SDTV

[JKoopman]

Screw HDTVs. They're massively overpriced. I got a nice 24" 1080p LCD computer monitor at Best Buy a few months back for gaming with my 360 and only paid $200 for it. Ironically, the picture looks better on it than on my roommate's $1,700 LEDTV.

[Ackillez]

Obviously, this game discriminates against the poor

[Desertborn]

Jigero wrote...

 Should Bioware have put Mass Effect on 3000 Floppies because some people might not have disc drives?

I actually still have a floppy drive... Rise up oh thou 3 1/2 inch using masses!

[Darth Drago]

JMan71 wrote...

Whoa there buddy calm the heck down.

A) HD televisions are the way that console games are going, if you plan on continuing to play on a console you should probably upgrade. You're going to have to eventually.
Doesn't happen on other xbox games? Ever play dead rising or if you like rpgs, a game called mass effect 1? I played through both games on a standard def 27 inch screen. Was the text annoying? Yes. did i complain? No because i was aware that this was going to happen eventually.
C) Should there be some warning against this? Yes but if anything a small disclaimer on the back not the giant eyesore on the cover you seem to suggest.
D) does bioware diserve the bashing your giving them on their own forums? Absolutely not.

A. Why? Because it the hip new thing to do? Oh wait now i'll have to go get one of those 3D tv's as well i suppose? My standard tv works just fine. With your mentality I should by a new car every few years because of some new upgrade it has.
B. I have all of theose game and Don’t have the problem like I and the OP (and others) have with text size in ME2. In fact on the back of both ME games they both support HDTV 720p/1080i/1080p formats.
C. A warning on the back would be nice stating that that it may not support SDTV’s.
D. Yes they do. They released the game, its their product.

boardnfool86 wrote...

they clearly only tested games on HD screens, whatever, its just text, why would you stop playing a game because the text is hard to read... isn't it more about the game itself... I have a 42 inch HD tv though so wtf do I know

-the game requires you to read text the  on screen to make decisions to further the story.

Jigero wrote...

Bull****, you can get a 19" 720 LCD screen for 143 bucks at Best Buy. probably even cheaper if you buy from Ebay or Newegg. And if you have money trouble you shouldn't be buying 60 dollar games in the first place.

-So I should waste money for a quick fix AND downsize from a 36” tv screen to crap 19” screen? Yea right. By the way there is a huge difference between spending some cahs for a game that should last you for a while of replaying it and forking out a few hundred dollars to replace something like a tv that is only a few years old.

Modifié par Darth Drago, 11 mars 2010 - 06:47 .

[ThePatriot101]

That is why you aren't playing the game?  That is the reason why you dropped ME2 after such a short period of time?

Man are you petty.

EDIT: For the record, I'm a primarily console gamer with a 3+ year old Magnavox 20-something-inch TV that set me back only $350 when it was new.

Modifié par ThePatriot101, 11 mars 2010 - 06:51 .

[Jigero]

JKoopman wrote...

Screw HDTVs. They're massively overpriced. I got a nice 24" 1080p LCD computer monitor at Best Buy a few months back for gaming with my 360 and only paid $200 for it. Ironically, the picture looks better on it than on my roommate's $1,700 LEDTV.

Do you even know what a HDtv is? you 1080 24" LCD is an HD TV you idiot.

[Mikenator700]

OP 30 inches? I play on a 19 inch and I can see everything fine. Then again I play right next to the TV to make it seem larger. XP