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[Drakron]

GothamLord wrote...

So your basically saying they backstabbed by doing standard business practice and ****ed it up by trying to make money to continue to make games?. How dare they not bend over backwards to accommodate a country that you openly claim thrives on the pirate industry. I'm sorry for your country's economic situation and your personal one, but BioWare/EA has done nothing wrong by charging money for DLC. Arguing over how much they might charge is a valid claim but not the fact it has a price tag alone.

In case you FAIL to understand  (as you certainly do) ... they apply 1st world prices (Europe and North America) to the rest of the world without any reguard to the country actual economy (unless its to raise the price, hello European countries).

Its not just Brazil, is rampart globaly as the price is completly out of tune with the local economy reality.

Also you think this is just EA fault? everyone does it ... everyone, it seems they simply do not care and keep the price standerized to avoid revert importing, this been going on for years.

This is not "standart business pratice" as you cannot change the same prices as if everyone lives in the US of A, IF they did there would be revolution because people would be STARVING.

[GothamLord]

I believe in capitalism. You pay for a product. If you dont like the price you either find someone that charges less or you go without it. People dont buy a product, the company lowers its prices to get business or they go under.

[cityhunter357]

PARAGON87 wrote...

Its 560 MS Points ($7), check the wikia:

http://masseffect.wi...iki/Kasumi_Goto

560?

While it should be free on Cerberus netwok, why choose 560?

You have to rechargge of 1000MS point, so it basically cost 10$
In any case, it's too much for a second Zaeed.

[GothamLord]

Drakron wrote...

GothamLord wrote...

So your basically saying they backstabbed by doing standard business practice and ****ed it up by trying to make money to continue to make games?. How dare they not bend over backwards to accommodate a country that you openly claim thrives on the pirate industry. I'm sorry for your country's economic situation and your personal one, but BioWare/EA has done nothing wrong by charging money for DLC. Arguing over how much they might charge is a valid claim but not the fact it has a price tag alone.

In case you FAIL to understand  (as you certainly do) ... they apply 1st world prices (Europe and North America) to the rest of the world without any reguard to the country actual economy (unless its to raise the price, hello European countries).

Its not just Brazil, is rampart globaly as the price is completly out of tune with the local economy reality.

Also you think this is just EA fault? everyone does it ... everyone, it seems they simply do not care and keep the price standerized to avoid revert importing, this been going on for years.

This is not "standart business pratice" as you cannot change the same prices as if everyone lives in the US of A, IF they did there would be revolution because people would be STARVING.

EA/BioWare is a company based in a 1st World County. They get probably over 90% of their business from 1st world countries. Their business model should be based around those economies.  Its not their fault for the inflated import fees to some 2nd and 3rd world countries

Modifié par GothamLord, 13 mars 2010 - 10:06 .

[PARAGON87]

cityhunter357 wrote...

PARAGON87 wrote...

Its 560 MS Points ($7), check the wikia:

http://masseffect.wi...iki/Kasumi_Goto

560?

While it should be free on Cerberus netwok, why choose 560?

You have to rechargge of 1000MS point, so it basically cost 10$
In any case, it's too much for a second Zaeed.

No, it's 80 MS Points per dollar.  (400 MS Points = $5, 1600 = $20, 4000 = $50, etc)

I don't know about the price, Warden's Keep for DA:O was 560, also.  I guess BioWare wants to make a bit more change for their DLC.  As long as it is below $10, I'm happy.

[Mavkiel]

Drakron wrote...
In case you FAIL to understand  (as you certainly do) ... they apply 1st world prices (Europe and North America) to the rest of the world without any reguard to the country actual economy (unless its to raise the price, hello European countries).

Its not just Brazil, is rampart globaly as the price is completly out of tune with the local economy reality.

Also you think this is just EA fault? everyone does it ... everyone, it seems they simply do not care and keep the price standerized to avoid revert importing, this been going on for years.

This is not "standart business pratice" as you cannot change the same prices as if everyone lives in the US of A, IF they did there would be revolution because people would be STARVING.

If its to much, simply don't buy it. You expect them to come up with different pricing models for economically challenged countries? I can only imagine the outrage people would have over that. Shoot they would probably have to clear it with their legal department first. Do you have any idea how much those kind of lawyers earn per hour? I can see it now, a drop down menu based on where you live and the price of the dlc raises/lowers accordingly.

[eisc0rn]

it's funny how all the big developers (except for valve) troll their community with pay2play dlc.

Modifié par eisc0rn, 13 mars 2010 - 10:21 .

[GothamLord]

I do agree Microsoft should have a option to purchase 100 points. 560 is a messed up number to pick. There is 500 and then 1000 for MS points to buy. People like myself might have some banked so they dont have to spend anything or only the 500. Other people are forced to bite the bullet on the 1000 for that extra 60 points. That however is a Microsoft issue not BioWare/EA. I dont know how the BW points work for the PC community.

[GothamLord]

Mavkiel wrote...

Drakron wrote...
In case you FAIL to understand  (as you certainly do) ... they apply 1st world prices (Europe and North America) to the rest of the world without any reguard to the country actual economy (unless its to raise the price, hello European countries).

Its not just Brazil, is rampart globaly as the price is completly out of tune with the local economy reality.

Also you think this is just EA fault? everyone does it ... everyone, it seems they simply do not care and keep the price standerized to avoid revert importing, this been going on for years.

This is not "standart business pratice" as you cannot change the same prices as if everyone lives in the US of A, IF they did there would be revolution because people would be STARVING.

If its to much, simply don't buy it. You expect them to come up with different pricing models for economically challenged countries? I can only imagine the outrage people would have over that. Shoot they would probably have to clear it with their legal department first. Do you have any idea how much those kind of lawyers earn per hour? I can see it now, a drop down menu based on where you live and the price of the dlc raises/lowers accordingly.

Yay someone else that understands how business actually works.  About time. 

[DaBigDragon]

BOTTOM LINE: YOU DON'T LIKE THE PRICE. DON'T BUY IT.



SIMPLE.

[Estramon]

I believe in capitalism. You pay for a product. If you dont like the price you either find someone that charges less or you go without it. People dont buy a product, the company lowers its prices to get business or they go under.

So you're endorsing piracy now?







Relax, just a joke :3

[GothamLord]

Estramon wrote...

I believe in capitalism. You pay for a product. If you dont like the price you either find someone that charges less or you go without it. People dont buy a product, the company lowers its prices to get business or they go under.

So you're endorsing piracy now?



Relax, just a joke :3

Joke or not.  So long as people want something they cant afford people will steal. Its the human condition.  If you believe everyone should be able to have everything  for free we're moving towards communism. Most people should understand thats not a good option. 

[Drakron]

Mavkiel wrote...

If its to much, simply don't buy it. You expect them to come up with different pricing models for economically challenged countries? I can only imagine the outrage people would have over that. Shoot they would probably have to clear it with their legal department first. Do you have any idea how much those kind of lawyers earn per hour? I can see it now, a drop down menu based on where you live and the price of the dlc raises/lowers accordingly.

*sigh*

Nice going about ignoring the question ... now here is a tought, do you think a movie ticket costs the same globaly? do you think a DVD costs the same globaly?

DLC prices ARE NOT the game globaly BTW ... Missed that too?

Modifié par Drakron, 13 mars 2010 - 10:42 .

[Hyper Cutter]

$7? Warden's Keep was barely worth that, and it offered a lot more...

[GothamLord]

"Do you think a movie ticket costs the same globaly?

Of course not. Its a totally different medium. Your paying for an experience and atmosphere. You also dont get to keep the movie after the fact.

"Do you think a DVD costs the same globaly?"

No there are import fees to various countries and other factors. I can go to three different retailers in a 10 mile radius and find the same DVD for 3 different prices. Whats your point there?



I dont see your point. You paid for the game, I am assuming as much anyways.  Now they are offering a *add-on*   thus another product so they have a right to try and charge money for it.   I dont expect a game like Rock Band to give me every new track thats released for free. 

Modifié par GothamLord, 13 mars 2010 - 10:51 .

[Drakron]

This forum software really needs a ignore function ... among other things.

[Tokuraws]

If it's more than 600 MS points, it will be very much not worth it. I remember being excited for Bringing down, it was good, but not worth what they wanted at first.

Modifié par Tokuraws, 13 mars 2010 - 10:56 .

[GothamLord]

If only we could just ignore everyone in life so easy that had an opinion that didnt agree with our own. Right or wrong.

[GothamLord]

Tokuraws wrote...

So what was the point of the Cerberus network? Give us a couple little things that do NOTHING for the story at al, and then charge for stuff like this. This is the kind of crap that puts me off playing anymore. To those people out there that think they are getting screwed if they buy ME2 used.. Think about it this way. If you buy it used all you are missing out on is a few weapons and armor that really don't matter, that new hover craft thing that you can buy for some MS points if you really want, and not much else. Even if you have the cerberus network you have to pay for this new DLC. I mean I understand them charging for it, but those of us that got the game new with the cerberus network should at least get a discount.

The Network is only what? 2 months old? You act like the fact that there is DLC with a price tag its going to suddenly turn off the freebies.  When we havent seen anything free for 6 months and they have released more priced DLC then people have the right to scream and moan.  At this point its unjustified by the masses. 

[Jax Sparrow]

yeah for capitalism! It is the wave of the future!



/signed