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[jbadm04]

for me the full game is roughly 40 hrs gameplay and it cost me 42eur. to round it up, lets say 1eur/1hr. With the Kasumi DLC geting another 1.5 hours, I would be willing to pay around 1.50eur. Maybe even 3, but for sure not more.

[Bhaal]

So you finished the game only once then put it to the shelf?

[nel e nel]

 LOL at people complaining about the first paid DLC, after getting Zaeed, a bunch of weapons & armor, and the Hammerhead with all of it's missions for free. 

As for 'holding it back just to squeeze money out of the gamers later' comments, I wonder how many of you work on developing games for the Xbox and understand the whole process of not just creating the content, but all of the hoops content has to go through on the Microsoft side before it's approved for release on the network?

[cruc1al]

Adakutay wrote...

So you finished the game only once then put it to the shelf?

Doesn't affect the calculations, as long as you play through kasumi as many times as you play through the main game.

[Fluffeh Kitteh]

akerrpl5 wrote...

I wish there would be more time dedicated to things that truly matter, like adding content that has something to do with the main plot.

Technically half of ME2's main game content was recruiting a bunch of random people from a list of dossiers, each of them detached from the grand scheme of things (i.e they're just there to lend you their skills as squadmates). That's not very main-plot-ish. And let's not forget all that planet scanning.

Point is, the main plot is nice and all, but on the bigger picture it's already overshadowed by all the side stuff. You fight more Blue Suns people in the game than Collectors for starters.

[cityhunter357]

nel e nel wrote...

 LOL at people complaining about the first paid DLC, after getting Zaeed, a bunch of weapons & armor, and the Hammerhead with all of it's missions for free. 

Zaeed, Normany crash site, Kasumi, the terminus and inferno armor etc. all things removed from the main game.
The only "original" content available are the "arc projector and the cerberus armor" and maybe the hammerhead (it wasn't physical on disc like Kasumi, but it was removed on purpose from the game).

I'm fine until all these thing are free, but if you start to charge even for this little DLC...

If they have to charge for DLC;make instead a REAL expansion of 10/20 hours, release it on both DVD and digital delivery (i'm not buying in digital delivery because of DRM on xbox360) and charge it 30$, then it's ok.

But no way I'll pay 4-15 dollar/euro for an hour of gameplay just like some fanboys.

[Fluffeh Kitteh]

It wasn't removed it just wasn't fully developed yet, unless there's some evidence I'm unaware of to support the claim that at release day on 31 Jan, the Hammerhead, etc were all in complete working order, missions and everything, and that they were deliberately removed and released at a later date to give the illusion that Bioware was "working on new DLC"

[VampireCommando]

so remind me again what the cerberus network is for, i though we was all promised mass effect 2 DLC will be free for those who have cerberus, and erm, well, this is DLC, but its not free, and i have the CE edition with cerberus, i guarentee this is EA's ditry work. *Faceplams* knew this would happen.

[Fluffeh Kitteh]

I don't think all DLC falls under the cerberus network umbrella. All of the DLC armour so far except cerberus armour is testament to that. The network is obviously a channel for some DLC but it is by means not the one and only channel.

Modifié par Fluffeh Kitteh, 14 mars 2010 - 04:14 .

[cityhunter357]

we don't pretend that all DLC must be free (especially because it's impossible since there are people who are happy to pay even 15 dollars for an hour of gameplay...) but at least all the content that was removed from the main game, Zaedd, SR1 crash site, Kasumi, Hammerhead, MUST BE FREE.



Othrwise, what will be the purpose of cerberus network after the hammerhead? only some useless armor and weapons?

[Lake88]

I think from EA's point of view, Cerberus network is only there to encourage people to buy original copies.

[Bhaal]

 

cruc1al wrote...

Doesn't affect the calculations, as long
as you play through kasumi as many times as you play through the main
game.

No it does. Video games are different then entertaiments like cinema. They have replayability or/and multi-player.
If you calculate the price of a video game or its DLC through play hours then I wonder does Modern Warfare 2 worth 8 bucks to you?

There are six character classes which offer utterly new play styles plus all of them can build-up differently by the player and also game can be played with different moral choices.

And you still insist on appraising the  game for one playthrough?../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png

Modifié par Adakutay, 14 mars 2010 - 05:14 .

[mnrqz]

I'll pay for a new SMG, the new character other goodies is a bonus



Bioware needs to make this one GREAT.



Otherwise criticism.

[OneDrunkMonk]

I'm looking forward to the new character and gameplay. I'm less excited about a new gun, ME2 has enough guns, let's un-nerf the biotics.



Side note I wonder if we'll get any character missions DLC? I realize it's a trilogy but there is so much lateral room in Mass Effect. Maybe episodic content? Love to have a 6 hour mission as Jack.

[PARAGON87]

mnrqz wrote...

I'll pay for a new SMG, the new character other goodies is a bonus

Bioware needs to make this one GREAT.

Otherwise criticism.

On these forums?  There'll be criticism irregardless. <_<

[Vena_86]

The Poll doesn't work. But the answer is: nothing at all. I will never ever pay for DLC. DLC is always overprized and the stupid points system makes people always end up with some spare points which encourages getting some more points to have enough for the next DLC, which again leaves you with spare points. Not to speak of, how I distrust digital transactions over personal ones. I won't fall for that trap.

Screw you guys, I'm going home...

[Scottthesnow]

jbadm04 wrote...

for me the full game is roughly 40 hrs gameplay and it cost me 42eur. to round it up, lets say 1eur/1hr. With the Kasumi DLC geting another 1.5 hours, I would be willing to pay around 1.50eur. Maybe even 3, but for sure not more.

This seems fair.  Things like bethesda's horse armor, still sour in my mind.  "Bring down the sky" was free, and pretty awesome. Pinacle station was $5, and had over 3 hours of content (I would say close to 10 depending on your gear level).  Charging $5 for 1.5 hours is like movie pricing.  I dont go to the movies unless I have a social reason to, its just a rip off.  On the same basis, I wont pay $7 for a useless weapon and an npc squadmate.

Now, if time passes and I can buy 20 hours of game content for $35 dollars I might consider it.  1.5 hours is not enough of an excuse to replay the game,  or motivate me to pay much money.  If they charged this hourly rate for Mass Effect (40 hrs) it would cost $132.  Would you buy that?!

Edit:  Oh yes, and EA is the bane of all that is holy.

Modifié par Scottthesnow, 14 mars 2010 - 05:36 .

[Auts]

May I swap Zaeed for Kasumi? :>

[cityhunter357]

"Bring down the sky" wasn't free, it was 400MP...

At least it wasn't a content removed from the main game...

Modifié par cityhunter357, 14 mars 2010 - 05:42 .

[GothamLord]

cityhunter357 wrote...

"Bring down the sky" wasn't free, it was 400MP...

At least it wasn't a content removed from the main game...

I believe it was released free for PC users.  That may be what he is refering to. 

[Scottthesnow]

GothamLord wrote...

cityhunter357 wrote...

"Bring down the sky" wasn't free, it was 400MP...

At least it wasn't a content removed from the main game...

I believe it was released free for PC users.  That may be what he is refering to. 

Yes, thank you.  I was unaware it cost points for console players.

[PARAGON87]

Still, the way BioWare releases games, you can't base a ratio of an hour of gameplay time with every dollar you spend.



Example: Dragon Age was about 100 hours on average, and cost $60. Awakening is to have 15-20 hrs of gameplay and costs $40.

[cityhunter357]

And I forgot it was free for pc users ^^

[Scottthesnow]

PARAGON87 wrote...

Still, the way BioWare releases games, you can't base a ratio of an hour of gameplay time with every dollar you spend.

Example: Dragon Age was about 100 hours on average, and cost $60. Awakening is to have 15-20 hrs of gameplay and costs $40.

Why not?  Its a way to judge value.  By your numbers, I would say that Awakening has far less value than Dragon Age. Dragon age costs 60 cents an hour.  Awakenings cost 2 dollars.  I doubt Awakenings will have as good of a story, and it cost almost 3 times as much to play per hour.  

You may buy Awakenings at $40, I most likely wont until its under $20 (eh, $10).  In the end, we both will buy the game.

[PARAGON87]

Scottthesnow wrote...

PARAGON87 wrote...

Still, the way BioWare releases games, you can't base a ratio of an hour of gameplay time with every dollar you spend.

Example: Dragon Age was about 100 hours on average, and cost $60. Awakening is to have 15-20 hrs of gameplay and costs $40.

Why not?  Its a way to judge value.  By your numbers, I would say that Awakening has far less value than Dragon Age. Dragon age costs 60 cents an hour.  Awakenings cost 2 dollars.  I doubt Awakenings will have as good of a story, and it cost almost 3 times as much to play per hour.  

You may buy Awakenings at $40, I most likely wont until its under $20 (eh, $10).  In the end, we both will buy the game.

It is a way to judge value, I thought this myself too... but Mass Effect 1 & 2 has about 40-50 hours of gameplay each,  Dragon Age has 100 hours, both cost the same.  But a majority here say that Mass Effect is a better game.