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[Wild Still]

The Angry One wrote...

Paid? What? What?

Paid content for something that's half-already in the game?
Screw you EA.

^This

"We sold you a game, and we'll let you play the whole thing... But only if you give us more money."

[JeanLuc761]

The Angry One wrote...
The Kasumi evidence is obvious.
Then there's the Hammerhead, the elevator listing on the Normandy mentions the Hammerhead despite it not being there, as does EDI in the cargo room.
Normandy crash site/Zaeed were available on the day of release.

Release date DLC does not mean the content was finished when the game was completed. 

Unless someone can prove to me that this content was intentionally cut simply for the purpose of garnering sales further down the road, then maybe I'll complain about it.  Until that time comes, I trust Bioware and do not believe they would screw over their loyal customers.

[kraidy1117]

The Angry One wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Well I got everything for free thanks to that mistake Microsoft did, sucks to be PC gamers I guess.

You miss the point. They took out things that should've been included in the price of the game.

And your point is........ You pay one price or if you got a new copy to get this stuff for free. Why is it that the PC gamers always complain about this? If yoiu don't want to pay for it, then get the torrent for it. No one is forcing you to buy it.

[ForceXev]

RobbertDewulf wrote...

I WILL BUY IT

I'm with this guy.  It's not like it's going to be expensive... anyone who can give me more Mass Effect 2 can have my credit card number.  :happy:

But I also agree with the poster who hopes that it won't be like Zaeed, lacking in conversation and character development on board Normandy.  Maybe she could be another LI?  She's kinda hot from what I've seen.

[KillaKow]

kraidy1117 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

And do we have proof that all of this was cut or or are people just assuming that in an attempt to feel "justified?"

I'm honestly dumbfounded here.  After everything Bioware has done and all they've given us, people are this readily dismissing this as an immoral business decision?  What the hell happened to trust?

The Kasumi evidence is obvious.
Then there's the Hammerhead, the elevator listing on the Normandy mentions the Hammerhead despite it not being there, as does EDI in the cargo room.
Normandy crash site/Zaeed were available on the day of release.

You paid 1500 points (don't know about PC owners) for the card or got it in a new game. We got Zaeed, Normandys crash site, Firestorm gun, Cerberus armor, Arc gun and the Hammerhead. In my case since I was on the 360, even with the Collectors edition Microsoft made a huge mistake and I was able to download EVERYTHING! All promotional stuff, the things that where on Cerberus network on day one. So in my case I payed nothing so far for any DLC.

And your point is?
Just because you got all of it free from a glitch doesn't change the fact that this smacks of EA's tradtion of releasing little fractions of a game to try and wring as much money out of it as possilbe.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Shavon wrote...

cachx wrote...


I can only imagine if this gets delayed, I can't wait for a RtO sh*tstorm part 2 

And as bad as that shi t storm was, imagine the ones Mass Effect fans will throw?

I can throw alot of **** I can assure you!

But not if it was delayed, I do not care about delays, I just don't like paying for redundancy (RTO) or for stuff that is in game (Namco/Sega) or stuff that should be in game like this situation appears to be.

[ChampDude]

ForceXev wrote...

RobbertDewulf wrote...

I WILL BUY IT

I'm with this guy.  It's not like it's going to be expensive... anyone who can give me more Mass Effect 2 can have my credit card number.  :happy:

But I also agree with the poster who hopes that it won't be like Zaeed, lacking in conversation and character development on board Normandy.  Maybe she could be another LI?  She's kinda hot from what I've seen.

According to the IGN article, she isn't fully interactive. She is basically the exact same as Zaeed

[Jaron Oberyn]

The Angry One wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Who cares if you have to pay for it. We have gotten a free squadmate, weapons, armor and the Hammerhead with 5 new missions for free! Paying for a squadmate is not that bad in my mind.

None of it was free.
It was all cut from the game.

We already paid for it.

I really wish people would stop thinking that the DLC was ever "free".
It was a convoluted form of DRM and second-hand sale control. Not to my taste but I accepted it. Now making us pay for stuff that was cut from the game is degenerating right back to standard EA bullcrap.

Exactly. Some people here are stuck in their little worlds. They don't understand that they're being ripped off. Quite funny actually, but at the same time its sad.

[Ramikadyc]

ForceXev wrote...

RobbertDewulf wrote...

I WILL BUY IT

I'm with this guy.  It's not like it's going to be expensive... anyone who can give me more Mass Effect 2 can have my credit card number.  :happy:

But I also agree with the poster who hopes that it won't be like Zaeed, lacking in conversation and character development on board Normandy.  Maybe she could be another LI?  She's kinda hot from what I've seen.

Unfornately, her interaction is just like Zaeed's--no conversation wheel.

[The Angry One]

kraidy1117 wrote...

You paid 1500 points (don't know about PC owners) for the card or got it in a new game. We got Zaeed, Normandys crash site, Firestorm gun, Cerberus armor, Arc gun and the Hammerhead. In my case since I was on the 360, even with the Collectors edition Microsoft made a huge mistake and I was able to download EVERYTHING! All promotional stuff, the things that where on Cerberus network on day one. So in my case I payed nothing so far for any DLC.

What's your point? That was a mistake. You didn't get it for free, you got what you should've gotten with a new purchase.
That's besides the point however, what I'm saying is that this "free DLC" is nothing of the sort. It is content that should have come with the GAME DISC but instead was deliberately taken out.
I don't appreciate being made to jump through hoops to get the full game but again I lived with it. Having to PAY for cut content however is too damn far. I am utterly sick of this vulgar trend in modern gaming pioneered by such companies as Greedy Bastard Incorporated Bethesda and turned into an art by the rEApers.

[kraidy1117]

To complainers, you don't need to get it, it's not like a map pack.

[Ramikadyc]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Who cares if you have to pay for it. We have gotten a free squadmate, weapons, armor and the Hammerhead with 5 new missions for free! Paying for a squadmate is not that bad in my mind.

None of it was free.
It was all cut from the game.

We already paid for it.

I really wish people would stop thinking that the DLC was ever "free".
It was a convoluted form of DRM and second-hand sale control. Not to my taste but I accepted it. Now making us pay for stuff that was cut from the game is degenerating right back to standard EA bullcrap.

Exactly. Some people here are stuck in their little worlds. They don't understand that they're being ripped off. Quite funny actually, but at the same time its sad.

Some people aren't broke or cheap. Being poor is quite funny, too, but at the same time it's sad.

[stillnotking]

BW is the best developer in the industry.  They make fantastic games at very reasonable prices AND hand out a ton of DLC stuff for free.  Of course, you ungrateful asses can think of nothing but the horrific injustice of having to skip one trip to Starbucks to pay for the Kasumi pack.

How about this: if it isn't worth five bucks to you, then don't f***ing buy it.

[Ecael]

Shepard: Hey everyone, this DLC discriminates against the poor!

In all seriousness, I don't think people seem to realize that the intention of free DLC is to add in the content that had to be cut to make a specific deadline.

This is a good thing -- Mass Effect 2 releases faster (instead of waiting an extra few months for the rest of the content) AND BioWare can finish the remaining content without having to throw it away.

Judging by the content that is in the game, these are what they didn't finish in time:
-Normandy Crash Site
-Zaeed Massani and loyalty mission
-Hammerhead/Firewalker (Vehicle controls are already in-game)
-Kasumi and loyalty mission (Audio fully recorded, character and dossier already fleshed out)
-More weapons and armor

This is what they plan on releasing (that we know of) but hardly has any content in the game:
-Liara-focused Shadow Broker DLC

Knowing this, the paid DLC should have started after Kasumi was released. The entire purpose of making this one paid DLC is to make this content seem like the trend for paid DLC (instead of Return to Ostagar).

The true quality of post-release DLC will be seen after Kasumi is released.

Modifié par Ecael, 11 mars 2010 - 11:43 .

[The Angry One]

kraidy1117 wrote...

To complainers, you don't need to get it, it's not like a map pack.

Let me be clear.
I've paid for the game.
This content was in the game then ripped out.
I've therefore paid for this content and have a right to it.

And no I will not resort to piracy.

[kraidy1117]

The Angry One wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

You paid 1500 points (don't know about PC owners) for the card or got it in a new game. We got Zaeed, Normandys crash site, Firestorm gun, Cerberus armor, Arc gun and the Hammerhead. In my case since I was on the 360, even with the Collectors edition Microsoft made a huge mistake and I was able to download EVERYTHING! All promotional stuff, the things that where on Cerberus network on day one. So in my case I payed nothing so far for any DLC.

What's your point? That was a mistake. You didn't get it for free, you got what you should've gotten with a new purchase.
That's besides the point however, what I'm saying is that this "free DLC" is nothing of the sort. It is content that should have come with the GAME DISC but instead was deliberately taken out.
I don't appreciate being made to jump through hoops to get the full game but again I lived with it. Having to PAY for cut content however is too damn far. I am utterly sick of this vulgar trend in modern gaming pioneered by such companies as Greedy Bastard Incorporated Bethesda and turned into an art by the rEApers.

Where is your proof expect for Hammerhead and Kasumie? Thats right you have no proof that the other stuff was already in the game. If you don't want to pay, then don't no one is forcing you, I would like it to be free but it's not going to happen and to start complaining like a baby is not going to help.

[Jaron Oberyn]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...
The Kasumi evidence is obvious.
Then there's the Hammerhead, the elevator listing on the Normandy mentions the Hammerhead despite it not being there, as does EDI in the cargo room.
Normandy crash site/Zaeed were available on the day of release.

Release date DLC does not mean the content was finished when the game was completed. 

Unless someone can prove to me that this content was intentionally cut simply for the purpose of garnering sales further down the road, then maybe I'll complain about it.  Until that time comes, I trust Bioware and do not believe they would screw over their loyal customers.

Are you blind? Or just THAT dumb? Nobody said they didn't trust Bioware. If they didn't, they wouldn't be on this thread arguing right now. We don't trust EA. Obviously you do, but thats ok. Your probably to young to know their track record, or you just don't care about throwing extra money away on things you've already paid for. No one needs to prove anything to you. Your nobody. The argument is directed at Bioware/EA, not JeanLuc761.

[JeanLuc761]

The Angry One wrote...
Let me be clear.
I've paid for the game.
This content was in the game then ripped out.
I've therefore paid for this content and have a right to it.

And no I will not resort to piracy.

Again, prove it.  Prove to me beyond the reasonable doubt that Bioware intentionally cut this and are witholding it, then I'll agree with you.

As such, all I'm hearing is aggravation and entitlement based upon assumptions.

PoliteAssasin wrote...
Are you blind? Or just THAT dumb?
Nobody said they didn't trust Bioware. If they didn't, they wouldn't be
on this thread arguing right now. We don't trust EA. Obviously you do,
but thats ok. Your probably to young to know their track record, or you
just don't care about throwing extra money away on things you've
already paid for. No one needs to prove anything to you. Your nobody.
The argument is directed at Bioware/EA, not JeanLuc761.

Nice, resort to insults. 

Modifié par JeanLuc761, 11 mars 2010 - 11:46 .

[The Angry One]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Where is your proof expect for Hammerhead and Kasumie? Thats right you have no proof that the other stuff was already in the game. If you don't want to pay, then don't no one is forcing you, I would like it to be free but it's not going to happen and to start complaining like a baby is not going to help.

Yeah it's not at all suspicious that Zaeed/Normandy crash site were available at release or anything.

[Ramikadyc]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...
The Kasumi evidence is obvious.
Then there's the Hammerhead, the elevator listing on the Normandy mentions the Hammerhead despite it not being there, as does EDI in the cargo room.
Normandy crash site/Zaeed were available on the day of release.

Release date DLC does not mean the content was finished when the game was completed. 

Unless someone can prove to me that this content was intentionally cut simply for the purpose of garnering sales further down the road, then maybe I'll complain about it.  Until that time comes, I trust Bioware and do not believe they would screw over their loyal customers.

Are you blind? Or just THAT dumb? Nobody said they didn't trust Bioware. If they didn't, they wouldn't be on this thread arguing right now. We don't trust EA. Obviously you do, but thats ok. Your probably to young to know their track record, or you just don't care about throwing extra money away on things you've already paid for. No one needs to prove anything to you. Your nobody. The argument is directed at Bioware/EA, not JeanLuc761.

That's funny, because I haven't played the Kasumi DLC yet.

[The Angry One]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...
Let me be clear.
I've paid for the game.
This content was in the game then ripped out.
I've therefore paid for this content and have a right to it.

And no I will not resort to piracy.

Again, prove it.  Prove to me beyond the reasonable doubt that Bioware intentionally cut this and are witholding it, then I'll agree with you.

As such, all I'm hearing is aggravation and entitlement based upon assumptions.

I've presented the evidence. If you choose to ignore it I have little to add.

[Wild Still]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

No, no it's not understandable.  At all.  Bioware has given us a phenomenal amount of DLC so far, all entirely free.  We should be grateful.  

Instead, people are whining that we're going to have to pay for a character who obviously wasn't finished for the final cut of the game.  Somebody had to put the work in folks; why shouldn't they get paid for it? 

If all of the content was entirely on the disc, I'd be inclined to agree with those who are complaining.  Since that's not the case, that means extra work had to go into Kasumi and there is no reason Bioware shouldn't ask to be paid for the hard work.

If you can't figure out that this was removed from the game for sale at a later date then I have a bridge to sell you.

[chubert]

JeanLuc761 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...
The Kasumi evidence is obvious.
Then there's the Hammerhead, the elevator listing on the Normandy mentions the Hammerhead despite it not being there, as does EDI in the cargo room.
Normandy crash site/Zaeed were available on the day of release.

Release date DLC does not mean the content was finished when the game was completed. 

Unless someone can prove to me that this content was intentionally cut simply for the purpose of garnering sales further down the road, then maybe I'll complain about it.  Until that time comes, I trust Bioware and do not believe they would screw over their loyal customers.

The release date DLC was finished with the game. The game was finished around christmas time. It came out end of jauary. I really dont think they went back to work and started on the release date DLC and got it all finished in a months time. Its a marketing strategy. Why cant people see that.

[KillaKow]

kraidy1117 wrote...

To complainers, you don't need to get it, it's not like a map pack.

I don't think you fully understand the situation.

Here's a helpful analogy:

Imagine that when Bungie released Halo 3, they took the Warthog, the Battle Rifle, and the Hunters out of the game. Then they made it so that you have to download the Warthog and the Battle Rifle later, albiet they were free, but then they made it so that you had to pay to download the Hunters so that they would be added to the game.

This has nothing to do with paying for new DLC. This is DLC that should have been in the game, or should at least be free as a couretsy from the devs, considering that the reason that some of it was unfinished was becasue of EA pressuring for a Jan. 26th release date. We really should not have to pay EA for this, because that is truly who we are paying in this situation.