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[Ryzaki]

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

rynluna wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
Your pretty much arguing against the inclusion of a choice that you will never have to use kind of like arguing about an extra doorway to get to the classroom when you *gasp* Never have to go that way!

Bolded for truth!

But that doesn't make sense. If someone wanted to put up a wall for no reasonable reason at all, I'd argue against that too.

Your either trolling...or immensely thick.

What's this newfound obsession with doors? Or is it just a matter of putting as many "doors" as possible onto a building, wheter they're necessary, useful or not?

Because it makes things more convient for other people than yourself? 

Shocking I know. No one is suggesting we throw up a useless door in the middle of the floor. One simply wants to be able to enter a room from two different ways instead of going around a giant stair case to reach the class.

Amazing things that have no influence on you making something better for other people? Scandelous.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 12 mars 2010 - 07:03 .

[tripehound1]

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

So we have trans-gendered alien woman , who as far as anybody could possibly tell are female / with some male internal parts.

an asari that underwent massive amounts of cosmetic surgery and periodically takes huge quantities of testosterone tablets and insist people call "him" frank, the hypothesis is (inhales) interesting...

[diskoh]

ReconTeam wrote...

Then your being a bigot against bigots, so therefore your a bigot yourself.

I never said I wasn't. I am bigoted against bigots. At least I can man-up and admit to my bigotry, unlike you homophobes.

By the way, it's "you're," not "your."

Modifié par diskoh, 12 mars 2010 - 07:02 .

[Varenus Luckmann]

Ryzaki wrote...

Collider wrote...

Although I don't agree with ReconTeam on homosexuality it seems, it is really unfair to call him homophobic, not to mention making your cause appear less sympathetic to him. I don't think he's AFRAID of homosexuality. He dislikes it, but if all phobias required was dislike, everyone would have a multitude of phobias.

this is also true. I'd be phobic of someone touching me for instance *shudders* I loathe when people touch me without my permission. Especially people who I don't know. Its bad enough when my friends and family do it I die a little inside whenever a perfect stranger does.

I...feel...I guess one would say violated? I always end up showering for at least 3 hours in the boiling hot water afterwards scrubbing at my skin in an attempt to purify it.

I really hate when people touch me.

You realize that something is wrong there, right? Something seriously out of whack, and I'm not talking about being a ragin' homosexual.

I hate people touching me, too, but not to the point where I'm filled with self-loathing resulting in hot water and scrubbing. That sh!t right there just ain't healthy.

[Wittand25]

On the asari beeing female.
First there are several meanings of the word female regarding the context you are discussing not an universal one. Back in highschool biology we had to lear the three levels of sexual characteristics (I think they even added others and now there up to five but I stick with the three I had to learn )
Primary sexual characteristics: Basically if the specimen has ovaries or testicels
Secondary sexual characteristics: Everything physical else that is different between the males and females of a species
Tertiary sexual characteristics: Everthing else that expresses sexual identity like clothes, grammar, ...

As far as the Asaria go:
Primary: The codex cleary states that they are all female and so produce through either partenogenesis or gynogenesis, depending on how much you want to stress the need for a mate to start procreation.
Secondary: Asari show every single sexual characteristic of human females, in the eyes of a human they are female.
Tertiary:Again they show every single sexual characteristic of human females so they wuld be considert female not only in anatomy but in gender too.

So the asari  are as close to women as possible while staying an alian race, claiming anything else is simply ridiculous.

Modifié par Wittand25, 12 mars 2010 - 07:07 .

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

Ok got it ,If she's like this

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenogenesis

This technically makes her half trans-gendered.But she is not fully transgendered because she only has for the most part one down their.Therefore she is 75% female (outward/internal), 25% male (internal only).

Modifié par LOST SPARTANJLC, 12 mars 2010 - 07:06 .

[thegreateski]

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Collider wrote...

Although I don't agree with ReconTeam on homosexuality it seems, it is really unfair to call him homophobic, not to mention making your cause appear less sympathetic to him. I don't think he's AFRAID of homosexuality. He dislikes it, but if all phobias required was dislike, everyone would have a multitude of phobias.

this is also true. I'd be phobic of someone touching me for instance *shudders* I loathe when people touch me without my permission. Especially people who I don't know. Its bad enough when my friends and family do it I die a little inside whenever a perfect stranger does.

I...feel...I guess one would say violated? I always end up showering for at least 3 hours in the boiling hot water afterwards scrubbing at my skin in an attempt to purify it.

I really hate when people touch me.

You realize that something is wrong there, right? Something seriously out of whack, and I'm not talking about being a ragin' homosexual.

I hate people touching me, too, but not to the point where I'm filled with self-loathing resulting in hot water and scrubbing. That sh!t right there just ain't healthy.

That Ladies and Gentlemen is a phobia.

[Ryzaki]

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Collider wrote...

Although I don't agree with ReconTeam on homosexuality it seems, it is really unfair to call him homophobic, not to mention making your cause appear less sympathetic to him. I don't think he's AFRAID of homosexuality. He dislikes it, but if all phobias required was dislike, everyone would have a multitude of phobias.

this is also true. I'd be phobic of someone touching me for instance *shudders* I loathe when people touch me without my permission. Especially people who I don't know. Its bad enough when my friends and family do it I die a little inside whenever a perfect stranger does.

I...feel...I guess one would say violated? I always end up showering for at least 3 hours in the boiling hot water afterwards scrubbing at my skin in an attempt to purify it.

I really hate when people touch me.

You realize that something is wrong there, right? Something seriously out of whack, and I'm not talking about being a ragin' homosexual.

I hate people touching me, too, but not to the point where I'm filled with self-loathing resulting in hot water and scrubbing. That sh!t right there just ain't healthy.

Uh...who said it had anything to do with the person's gender? When anyone period regardless of age, race, religion, or gender touches me I do that. *shrugs* Always have. I don't like to be touched. Its my right is it not? To be comfortable? 

...and it has nothing to do with self-loathing. Where you got that from I'll never know.

more to do with anyone who touches me is unclean...tainting me somehow...its hard to describe. People touching me casually causes me to clinch into myself as tightly as possible to avoid casual brushing of skin against skin. Even against my clothing I still feel vile (though the urge to shower is replaced by the urge to change my clothes).

Modifié par Ryzaki, 12 mars 2010 - 07:07 .

[Ryzaki]

thegreateski wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Collider wrote...

Although I don't agree with ReconTeam on homosexuality it seems, it is really unfair to call him homophobic, not to mention making your cause appear less sympathetic to him. I don't think he's AFRAID of homosexuality. He dislikes it, but if all phobias required was dislike, everyone would have a multitude of phobias.

this is also true. I'd be phobic of someone touching me for instance *shudders* I loathe when people touch me without my permission. Especially people who I don't know. Its bad enough when my friends and family do it I die a little inside whenever a perfect stranger does.

I...feel...I guess one would say violated? I always end up showering for at least 3 hours in the boiling hot water afterwards scrubbing at my skin in an attempt to purify it.

I really hate when people touch me.

You realize that something is wrong there, right? Something seriously out of whack, and I'm not talking about being a ragin' homosexual.

I hate people touching me, too, but not to the point where I'm filled with self-loathing resulting in hot water and scrubbing. That sh!t right there just ain't healthy.

That Ladies and Gentlemen is a phobia.

hm...would explain a lot actually.

So what...I'm touchaphobic?



Aw...

[tripehound1]

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Collider wrote...

Although I don't agree with ReconTeam on homosexuality it seems, it is really unfair to call him homophobic, not to mention making your cause appear less sympathetic to him. I don't think he's AFRAID of homosexuality. He dislikes it, but if all phobias required was dislike, everyone would have a multitude of phobias.

this is also true. I'd be phobic of someone touching me for instance *shudders* I loathe when people touch me without my permission. Especially people who I don't know. Its bad enough when my friends and family do it I die a little inside whenever a perfect stranger does.

I...feel...I guess one would say violated? I always end up showering for at least 3 hours in the boiling hot water afterwards scrubbing at my skin in an attempt to purify it.

I really hate when people touch me.

You realize that something is wrong there, right? Something seriously out of whack, and I'm not talking about being a ragin' homosexual.

I hate people touching me, too, but not to the point where I'm filled with self-loathing resulting in hot water and scrubbing. That sh!t right there just ain't healthy.

Maybe everyone should Hug her till she feels better?

[Inquisitor Recon]

diskoh wrote...
I never said I wasn't. I am bigoted against bigots. At least I can man-up and admit to my bigotry, unlike you homophobes.
By the way, it's "you're," not "your."

Well if I am a bigot by your standards I must be doing something right. Your opinion is pretty much invalid by this point.
But good work being a grammar Naz!, I am sure your promotion to Oberleutnant is in the works.

[Varenus Luckmann]

Ryzaki wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

rynluna wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
Your pretty much arguing against the inclusion of a choice that you will never have to use kind of like arguing about an extra doorway to get to the classroom when you *gasp* Never have to go that way!

Bolded for truth!

But that doesn't make sense. If someone wanted to put up a wall for no reasonable reason at all, I'd argue against that too.

Your either trolling...or immensely thick.

What's this newfound obsession with doors? Or is it just a matter of putting as many "doors" as possible onto a building, wheter they're necessary, useful or not?

Because it makes things more convient for other people than yourself? 

Shocking I know. No one is suggesting we throw up a useless door in the middle of the floor. One simply wants to be able to enter a room from two different ways instead of going around a giant stair case to reach the class.
Amazing things that have no influence on you making something better for other people? Scandelous.

Possible, but unlikely. If there's a door I wouldn't percieve as useful, why would there be people that would consider it useful? This, of course, posits the existance of a building in which we all use equally.

These things would invariably have an effect on me. If it is positive to others, chances are that they are positive to me. The comparison isn't apt, however, since this would be a door detrimental to my enjoyment of the building. If we had twelve midgets in a population of eight thousand, and putting in a midget door would create a draft for those eight thousand, but a minor comfort for those twelve midgets, should we or should we not build a midget door?

tl:dr; Midget doors suck.

[Ryzaki]

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

rynluna wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
Your pretty much arguing against the inclusion of a choice that you will never have to use kind of like arguing about an extra doorway to get to the classroom when you *gasp* Never have to go that way!

Bolded for truth!

But that doesn't make sense. If someone wanted to put up a wall for no reasonable reason at all, I'd argue against that too.

Your either trolling...or immensely thick.

What's this newfound obsession with doors? Or is it just a matter of putting as many "doors" as possible onto a building, wheter they're necessary, useful or not?

Because it makes things more convient for other people than yourself? 

Shocking I know. No one is suggesting we throw up a useless door in the middle of the floor. One simply wants to be able to enter a room from two different ways instead of going around a giant stair case to reach the class.
Amazing things that have no influence on you making something better for other people? Scandelous.

Possible, but unlikely. If there's a door I wouldn't percieve as useful, why would there be people that would consider it useful? This, of course, posits the existance of a building in which we all use equally.

These things would invariably have an effect on me. If it is positive to others, chances are that they are positive to me. The comparison isn't apt, however, since this would be a door detrimental to my enjoyment of the building. If we had twelve midgets in a population of eight thousand, and putting in a midget door would create a draft for those eight thousand, but a minor comfort for those twelve midgets, should we or should we not build a midget door?

tl:dr; Midget doors suck.

...right because someone is totally going to create a door that can't be closed right? 

[Varenus Luckmann]

Ryzaki wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Collider wrote...

Although I don't agree with ReconTeam on homosexuality it seems, it is really unfair to call him homophobic, not to mention making your cause appear less sympathetic to him. I don't think he's AFRAID of homosexuality. He dislikes it, but if all phobias required was dislike, everyone would have a multitude of phobias.

this is also true. I'd be phobic of someone touching me for instance *shudders* I loathe when people touch me without my permission. Especially people who I don't know. Its bad enough when my friends and family do it I die a little inside whenever a perfect stranger does.

I...feel...I guess one would say violated? I always end up showering for at least 3 hours in the boiling hot water afterwards scrubbing at my skin in an attempt to purify it.

I really hate when people touch me.

You realize that something is wrong there, right? Something seriously out of whack, and I'm not talking about being a ragin' homosexual.

I hate people touching me, too, but not to the point where I'm filled with self-loathing resulting in hot water and scrubbing. That sh!t right there just ain't healthy.

Uh...who said it had anything to do with the person's gender? When anyone period regardless of age, race, religion, or gender touches me I do that. *shrugs* Always have. I don't like to be touched. Its my right is it not? To be comfortable? 

...and it has nothing to do with self-loathing. Where you got that from I'll never know.

more to do with anyone who touches me is unclean...tainting me somehow...its hard to describe. People touching me casually causes me to clinch into myself as tightly as possible to avoid casual brushing of skin against skin. Even against my clothing I still feel vile (though the urge to shower is replaced by the urge to change my clothes).

I didn't say that it had anything to do with gender. No idea where you got that from. And yes, it does have everything to do with self-loathing, wheter it's "just" a feeling of being "unclean". What you're describing just isn't normal.

[Varenus Luckmann]

Ryzaki wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

rynluna wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
Your pretty much arguing against the inclusion of a choice that you will never have to use kind of like arguing about an extra doorway to get to the classroom when you *gasp* Never have to go that way!

Bolded for truth!

But that doesn't make sense. If someone wanted to put up a wall for no reasonable reason at all, I'd argue against that too.

Your either trolling...or immensely thick.

What's this newfound obsession with doors? Or is it just a matter of putting as many "doors" as possible onto a building, wheter they're necessary, useful or not?

Because it makes things more convient for other people than yourself? 

Shocking I know. No one is suggesting we throw up a useless door in the middle of the floor. One simply wants to be able to enter a room from two different ways instead of going around a giant stair case to reach the class.
Amazing things that have no influence on you making something better for other people? Scandelous.

Possible, but unlikely. If there's a door I wouldn't percieve as useful, why would there be people that would consider it useful? This, of course, posits the existance of a building in which we all use equally.

These things would invariably have an effect on me. If it is positive to others, chances are that they are positive to me. The comparison isn't apt, however, since this would be a door detrimental to my enjoyment of the building. If we had twelve midgets in a population of eight thousand, and putting in a midget door would create a draft for those eight thousand, but a minor comfort for those twelve midgets, should we or should we not build a midget door?

tl:dr; Midget doors suck.

...right because someone is totally going to create a door that can't be closed right? 

Airtight doors? In MY public buildings? Inconcievable.

[Grizzly46]

Wittand25 wrote...

On the asari beeing female.
First there are several meanings of the word female regarding the context you are discussing not an universal one. Back in highschool biology we had to lear the three levels of sexual characteristics (I think they even added others and now there up to five but I stick with the three I had to learn )
Primary sexual characteristics: Basically if the specimen has ovaries or testicels
Secondary sexual characteristics: Everything physical else that is different between the males and females of a species
Tertiary sexual characteristics: Everthing else that expresses sexual identity like clothes, grammar, ...

As far as the Asaria go:
Primary: The codex cleary states that they are all female and so produce through either partenogenesis or gynogenesis, depending on how much you want to stress the need for a mate to start procreation.
Secondary: Asari show every single sexual characteristic of human females, in the eyes of a human they are female.
Tertiary:Again they show every single sexual characteristic of human females so they wuld be considert female not only in anatomy but in gender too.

So the asari  are as close to women as possible while staying an alian race, claiming anything else is simply ridiculous.

I fully agree with your first two points - the third however is not valid, since we can assume that asari has adopted the otherwise more common way of dividing people into two genders, thus placing themselves into the female camp. They don't have a word for patriarch for example, and I doubt they would in their own language refer to another asari as 'her' - it would probably be more like 'it'.

[Ryzaki]

Varenus Luckmann wrote...
I didn't say that it had anything to do with gender. No idea where you got that from. And yes, it does have everything to do with self-loathing, wheter it's "just" a feeling of being "unclean". What you're describing just isn't normal.

Uh...considering its my condition I'm pretty sure I know the difference between hating yourself and wondering if something is crawling on your skin and that you need to wash it off now.

I love how you people think you can tell someone else how they feel.

Also the gender came from the whole homophobic comment.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 12 mars 2010 - 07:12 .

[thegreateski]

Ryzaki wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Collider wrote...

Although I don't agree with ReconTeam on homosexuality it seems, it is really unfair to call him homophobic, not to mention making your cause appear less sympathetic to him. I don't think he's AFRAID of homosexuality. He dislikes it, but if all phobias required was dislike, everyone would have a multitude of phobias.

this is also true. I'd be phobic of someone touching me for instance *shudders* I loathe when people touch me without my permission. Especially people who I don't know. Its bad enough when my friends and family do it I die a little inside whenever a perfect stranger does.

I...feel...I guess one would say violated? I always end up showering for at least 3 hours in the boiling hot water afterwards scrubbing at my skin in an attempt to purify it.

I really hate when people touch me.

You realize that something is wrong there, right? Something seriously out of whack, and I'm not talking about being a ragin' homosexual.

I hate people touching me, too, but not to the point where I'm filled with self-loathing resulting in hot water and scrubbing. That sh!t right there just ain't healthy.

That Ladies and Gentlemen is a phobia.

hm...would explain a lot actually.

So what...I'm touchaphobic?



Aw...

Don't feel bad. I had a phobia of dogs for a long while actually.

Was attacked by a few when I was a small child. Got bitten up really bad. Took a while but eventually I began to love dogs again. (6 dogs)

Modifié par thegreateski, 12 mars 2010 - 07:11 .

[Frieza1987]

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

rynluna wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
Your pretty much arguing against the inclusion of a choice that you will never have to use kind of like arguing about an extra doorway to get to the classroom when you *gasp* Never have to go that way!

Bolded for truth!

But that doesn't make sense. If someone wanted to put up a wall for no reasonable reason at all, I'd argue against that too.

Your either trolling...or immensely thick.

What's this newfound obsession with doors? Or is it just a matter of putting as many "doors" as possible onto a building, wheter they're necessary, useful or not?

Because it makes things more convient for other people than yourself? 

Shocking I know. No one is suggesting we throw up a useless door in the middle of the floor. One simply wants to be able to enter a room from two different ways instead of going around a giant stair case to reach the class.
Amazing things that have no influence on you making something better for other people? Scandelous.

Possible, but unlikely. If there's a door I wouldn't percieve as useful, why would there be people that would consider it useful? This, of course, posits the existance of a building in which we all use equally.

These things would invariably have an effect on me. If it is positive to others, chances are that they are positive to me. The comparison isn't apt, however, since this would be a door detrimental to my enjoyment of the building. If we had twelve midgets in a population of eight thousand, and putting in a midget door would create a draft for those eight thousand, but a minor comfort for those twelve midgets, should we or should we not build a midget door?

tl:dr; Midget doors suck.

(in bold) I like your logic. It's devoid of all that useless stuff... like logic.

If I don't like it, then by default, no one else like s it either, because my opinion is reality.

[Varenus Luckmann]

Ryzaki wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Collider wrote...

Although I don't agree with ReconTeam on homosexuality it seems, it is really unfair to call him homophobic, not to mention making your cause appear less sympathetic to him. I don't think he's AFRAID of homosexuality. He dislikes it, but if all phobias required was dislike, everyone would have a multitude of phobias.

this is also true. I'd be phobic of someone touching me for instance *shudders* I loathe when people touch me without my permission. Especially people who I don't know. Its bad enough when my friends and family do it I die a little inside whenever a perfect stranger does.

I...feel...I guess one would say violated? I always end up showering for at least 3 hours in the boiling hot water afterwards scrubbing at my skin in an attempt to purify it.

I really hate when people touch me.

You realize that something is wrong there, right? Something seriously out of whack, and I'm not talking about being a ragin' homosexual.

I hate people touching me, too, but not to the point where I'm filled with self-loathing resulting in hot water and scrubbing. That sh!t right there just ain't healthy.

That Ladies and Gentlemen is a phobia.

hm...would explain a lot actually.

So what...I'm touchaphobic?



Aw...

I believe the term is Chiraptophobia, but from the sounds of it it sounds more like Automysophobia.

[diskoh]

History will judge you homophobes the same as it judges slave owners and ****s.

[Varenus Luckmann]

Frieza1987 wrote...
(in bold) I like your logic. It's devoid of all that useless stuff... like logic.

If I don't like it, then by default, no one else like s it either, because my opinion is reality.

Do you posit the existance of multiple realities? Care to expand on that?

[Varenus Luckmann]

diskoh wrote...
History will judge you homophobes the same as it judges slave owners and ****s.

Oh, you mean "not at all"? Or are you another one of those "We've always been at war with Oceania"-people?

Modifié par Varenus Luckmann, 12 mars 2010 - 07:15 .

[Ryzaki]

thegreateski wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Collider wrote...

Although I don't agree with ReconTeam on homosexuality it seems, it is really unfair to call him homophobic, not to mention making your cause appear less sympathetic to him. I don't think he's AFRAID of homosexuality. He dislikes it, but if all phobias required was dislike, everyone would have a multitude of phobias.

this is also true. I'd be phobic of someone touching me for instance *shudders* I loathe when people touch me without my permission. Especially people who I don't know. Its bad enough when my friends and family do it I die a little inside whenever a perfect stranger does.

I...feel...I guess one would say violated? I always end up showering for at least 3 hours in the boiling hot water afterwards scrubbing at my skin in an attempt to purify it.

I really hate when people touch me.

You realize that something is wrong there, right? Something seriously out of whack, and I'm not talking about being a ragin' homosexual.

I hate people touching me, too, but not to the point where I'm filled with self-loathing resulting in hot water and scrubbing. That sh!t right there just ain't healthy.

That Ladies and Gentlemen is a phobia.

hm...would explain a lot actually.

So what...I'm touchaphobic?



Aw...

Don't feel bad. I had a phobia of dogs for a long while actually.

Was attacked by a few when I was a small child. Got bitten up really bad. Took a while but eventually I began to love dogs again. (6 dogs)

Heh. Well I can tolerate the touching when its family. Even if it still makes me flinch sometimes.

Friends too.

Though...I really really hate when my proffessors touch me. I don't have the heart to tell them I don't like being touched so I sort of cringe and flinch and then run to the shower the moment I get home.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 12 mars 2010 - 07:16 .

[tripehound1]

homophones>homophobes



D'ya see what I did there?