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[Varenus Luckmann]

Ryzaki wrote...
...There are just...no words...

Negroes aren't the correct terminology for African Americans...or heck any africans except those from a specific part!
Ugh...I'm...ugh...that's...there are just no words for the stupidity in that post.
There are times when I hate America...ugh.

Politically correct? Ra forbid you show someone other than yourself a decent amount of respect! Shocking I know! People actually want to be respected!

You are making one fatal assumption here, but just to clarify; I am not american.

Negroes are the correct terminology for negroes. I said negroes and I meant negroes. I did not mean "african americans". If I did, I would have said african americans. Whilst two or more words may appear interchangable, no two words are in fact entirely equal.

Using the word "african americans" when I am not in fact referring to african americans would be pants-on-head retarded. If we have very few negroes here, the fact of the matter is that I've never, ever, met an african american here.

[Ryzaki]

thegreateski wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...
Varenus Luckmann ,
I get would you mean , but what ever you do don't say it to someone black.(You'll be sorry you did)

Don't really have many negroes here and the ones we have aren't particularily uptight about slavery. It's a pretty classical joke.

...and I'm now slightly offended.  Negroes? Really? <_< What's next crackers? Spics? *sighs*

Crackers and spics are inherently derogatory terms. I'm just calling a spade a spade. I refuse to be shackled by political correctness and your amerocentric cultural sphere.

Not to say that it's not hilarious to use words that offends the hilariously easily offended.

...There are just...no words...

Negroes aren't the correct terminology for African Americans...or heck any africans except those from a specific part!
Ugh...I'm...ugh...that's...there are just no words for the stupidity in that post.
There are times when I hate America...ugh.

Politically correct? Ra forbid you show someone other than yourself a decent amount of respect! Shocking I know! People actually want to be respected!

I'm curious. Is African Americans the term now or is it still Blacks?

You guys get to call us Whites after all. I just don't want to type those two damn words everytime I refer to that demographic.

Uh...its whatever you want that's not seen as offensive. When a majority of caucasion people decide that "white" is offensive then I'm sure a lot of people (with the exception of those with no respect) will stop using it. No black is not offensive to me...or many other black people. ****** on the other hand is something guaranteed to get you punched in the face by several people I know.

[thegreateski]

You've lost the right to refer to us at all.

Oh? We've started stripping people of their rights because they have questions about grammar?

This country is strange.

Modifié par thegreateski, 12 mars 2010 - 07:48 .

[diskoh]

thegreateski wrote...

This country is strange.

That's hate speech.

[Ryzaki]

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
...There are just...no words...

Negroes aren't the correct terminology for African Americans...or heck any africans except those from a specific part!
Ugh...I'm...ugh...that's...there are just no words for the stupidity in that post.
There are times when I hate America...ugh.

Politically correct? Ra forbid you show someone other than yourself a decent amount of respect! Shocking I know! People actually want to be respected!

You are making one fatal assumption here, but just to clarify; I am not american.

Negroes are the correct terminology for negroes. I said negroes and I meant negroes. I did not mean "african americans". If I did, I would have said african americans. Whilst two or more words may appear interchangable, no two words are in fact entirely equal.

Using the word "african americans" when I am not in fact referring to african americans would be pants-on-head retarded. If we have very few negroes here, the fact of the matter is that I've never, ever, met an african american here.

Well you're talking to one. And no. I don't appreciate being called a ******. (And it must be the ethnocentric in me because when we were dicussing slavery I assumed american slavery which would lead to negros being an offensive term) so if you're talking about some other country then I apologize.

*shrugs* Maybe they dont' care about being called ****** somewhere else. In american though most of the black people I know will hit you. Hard.

[Varenus Luckmann]

Ryzaki wrote...
Uh...its whatever you want that's not seen as offensive. When a majority of caucasion people decide that "white" is offensive then I'm sure a lot of people (with the exception of those with no respect) will stop using it. No black is not offensive to me...or many other black people. ****** on the other hand is something guaranteed to get you punched in the face by several people I know.

Then several people you know need:

1) Anger management classes.
2) Education.

[robotnist]

when you bible thumpers make your own game, you can decide NOT to have same sex relationships in it and more christian stuff, like-



killing others who dont agree with your fiction.

damning the other 199 countries on this planet for not accepting jesus as their savior.

and pulling the fingernails with pliers out of the hands of babies not born into a REAL country like america!!!

[Ryzaki]

diskoh wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

This country is strange.

That's hate speech.

Aye this too. But this is in the US so I don't know about anywhere else.

****** and N**** are pretty much interchangeable at times. So...yeah.

[Collider]

You have to understand that in other countries "negroe" isn't as offensive. To mention...in other countries there aren't even many black people, so there is less opportunity for negroe to be offensive.

[Ryzaki]

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
Uh...its whatever you want that's not seen as offensive. When a majority of caucasion people decide that "white" is offensive then I'm sure a lot of people (with the exception of those with no respect) will stop using it. No black is not offensive to me...or many other black people. ****** on the other hand is something guaranteed to get you punched in the face by several people I know.

Then several people you know need:

1) Anger management classes.
2) Education.

*shrugs* I'm sure some people will punch someone in the face for calling their mother a b**** as well and yeah they probably do need to control their tempers. Won't stop me from laughing at the person with the broken nose, freedom of speech can only go so far before you have to own up to what's coming out of your mouth.

Collider wrote...

You have to understand that in other
countries "negroe" isn't as offensive. To mention...in other countries
there aren't even many black people, so there is less opportunity for
negroe to be offensive.

I know thats why there's the disclaimer....

Modifié par Ryzaki, 12 mars 2010 - 07:50 .

[Varenus Luckmann]

Ryzaki wrote...
Well you're talking to one. And no. I don't appreciate being called a ******. (And it must be the ethnocentric in me because when we were dicussing slavery I assumed american slavery which would lead to negros being an offensive term) so if you're talking about some other country then I apologize.

*shrugs* Maybe they dont' care about being called ****** somewhere else. In american though most of the black people I know will hit you. Hard.

If you're a ******, why should you be upset over being called one? Self-loathing issues? Again?

African-American is an extremely wide term, as is "African" (neither is a singular ethnicity or race). Similar to how all "africans" are "black", but not all "blacks" "africans".

Now "the N-word" (wordfiltered, despite being just as offensive as ****** or kraut) is another matter entirely, since it's an inherently derogatory term.

Modifié par Varenus Luckmann, 12 mars 2010 - 07:52 .

[thegreateski]

Not to poke the metaphorical "racist bull" but why is ****** considered a bad word?

I know that the other N-word also means lazy but does ****** also have some sort of insulting meaning as well? I need a dictionary (HA!)

The word ****** was used in the English-speaking world to refer to a person of black ancestry or appearance, whether of African descent or not, prior to the shift in the lexicon of American and worldwide classification of race and ethnicity in the late 1960s. The word "******" means "black" in Spanish and Portuguese, from the Latin niger ("black"). The usage was accepted as normal, even by people classified as Negros, until the Civil Rights movement.
During the American Civil Rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s, some African American leaders in the United States objected to the word, preferring Black, because they associated the word ****** with the long history of slavery, segregation, and discrimination that treated African Americans as second class citizens, or worse. During the 1960s ****** came to be considered an ethnic slur.
The term is now considered archaic and offensive, and is not commonly used. It is still used in some historical contexts, such as in the name of the United ****** College Fund. and the ****** league in sports.
Modern language uses: Black, Black African for people native to the African continent, and African American for people in U.S.A..
"******" superseded "colored" as the most polite terminology, at a time when "black" was more offensive.
The United States Census Bureau announced that ****** would be included on the 2010 United States Census, alongside "Black" and "African-American," because some older Americans still self-identify with the term.

Ah. There's the answer.

Modifié par thegreateski, 12 mars 2010 - 07:55 .

[Wittand25]

DariusKalera wrote...

EternalWolfe wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

Moving back , Liara a female asari who does not see herself as female.To become pregnant she would need genetic material that can come from a male/female.For her to be able to do this suggests male parts somewhere , though she clearly is female.

Hope it made sense.

I posted this on the last page for you, but it seems to have gotten blown away and lost.

http://en.wikipedia....Parthenogenesis

Edit: er, two pages ago, apparently.

I'm sorry, but you are using that definition in the wrong context.

Asari NEED either another male/female to reproduce.  Whether that male/female is another asari, krogan, human, or what have you, it does not matter.  

An animal capable of parthenogenesis does not need a mate.

I'm finding this whole debate on the Asari to be rather interesting.  Human genders and gender roles (Yes, they are two very different things) are being used to describe an alien culture. 

They are gender neutral when it comes to sexual reproduction since they can mate, and produce offspring with, either a male or a female.

As for thier gender roles, that too seems to be neutral.  Which, since they are all one gender, or no gender, that makes sense.  They have no roles that are traditionally male, nor female. 

It seems that individuals are claiming the Arari are female simply because they have a feminine look to them.  Looking female and being female are, once again, two very different things and being one does not necessarily mean that the other is true.

Since the Asari have no female gender, they can not be female.  They can only be feminine looking. 

There can be no fem/fem relationship with an Asari just as there can be no male/fem relationship.  There can only be "alien species, gender variable"/Arari relationships.

So, any arguements against a FemShep/Arari relationship because they are the same sex falls apart because, simply, they aren't the same sex.

Read my post a couple of pages back, they are female in every meaning of the word.
Their way of reproduction is more gynogenesis ( a mate is needed but the genetic material of the mate is not used for the offspring ) and not parthenogenesis ( a mate is not needed but can be beneficial for fertility.

[diskoh]

Ryzaki wrote...

diskoh wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

This country is strange.

That's hate speech.

Aye this too. But this is in the US so I don't know about anywhere else.

****** and N**** are pretty much interchangeable at times. So...yeah.

He knows what he's saying. He knows it's offensive. If he didn't he would have used a more innocuous term. He intentionally used it because he likes to say inflamatory things and then act naive when people are offended. It's a common tactic of racists.

[Ryzaki]

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
Well you're talking to one. And no. I don't appreciate being called a ******. (And it must be the ethnocentric in me because when we were dicussing slavery I assumed american slavery which would lead to negros being an offensive term) so if you're talking about some other country then I apologize.

*shrugs* Maybe they dont' care about being called ****** somewhere else. In american though most of the black people I know will hit you. Hard.

If you're a ******, why should you be upset over being called one? Self-loathing issues? Again?

African-American is an extremely wide term, as is "African" (neither is a singular ethnicity or race). Similar to how all "africans" are "black", but not all "blacks" "africans".

I'm thinking if anyone has self-loathing issues its you. You continously bring it up. Do you have some issues you want to work out? You have some feelings you don't want to act out on. That's why you don't want the option in the game? 

And how pray tell is ****** any more specific? 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 12 mars 2010 - 07:54 .

[Wittand25]

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
Well you're talking to one. And no. I don't appreciate being called a ******. (And it must be the ethnocentric in me because when we were dicussing slavery I assumed american slavery which would lead to negros being an offensive term) so if you're talking about some other country then I apologize.

*shrugs* Maybe they dont' care about being called ****** somewhere else. In american though most of the black people I know will hit you. Hard.

If you're a ******, why should you be upset over being called one? Self-loathing issues? Again?

African-American is an extremely wide term, as is "African" (neither is a singular ethnicity or race). Similar to how all "africans" are "black", but not all "blacks" "africans".

Now "the N-word" (wordfiltered, despite being just as offensive as ****** or kraut) is another matter entirely, since it's an inherently derogatory term.

The africans north of the sahara are more brown than black. "Schwarzafrika" as we call it in german is only south of the sahara.

Modifié par Wittand25, 12 mars 2010 - 07:54 .

[diskoh]

To bring it back to dictionaries, if you look up the word ******, after giving the definition of a sub-saharan race, it says "no longer in technical use."

Modifié par diskoh, 12 mars 2010 - 07:54 .

[Varenus Luckmann]

thegreateski wrote...
Not to poke the metaphorical "racist bull" but why is ****** considered a bad word?

I know that the other N-word also means lazy but does ****** also have some sort of insulting meaning as well? I need a dictionary (HA!)

Not according to my dictionary, but I suppose mine isn't amerocentric newspeak or PC-approved. A ****** is a member of the the ****** race, in sub-saharan africa.

[Possessedkitten]

I think that if they put in a lesbian romance its only fair that there is a gay one too.

[Varenus Luckmann]

diskoh wrote...
To bring it back to dictionaries, if you look up the word ******, after giving the definition of a sub-saharan race, it says "no longer in technical use."

In technical use. In context. It is still a word and it still has the same meaning as ever.

[Ryzaki]

diskoh wrote...

To bring it back to dictionaries, if you look up the word ******, after giving the definition of a sub-saharan race, it says "no longer in technical use."

Diskoh you forgot dictionaries somehow don't count! They change remember!

This too is somehow untrue!

"member of a black-skinned race of Africa," 1555, from Sp. or Port. ****** "black," from L. nigrum (nom. niger) "black," of unknown origin. Use with a capital N-
became general early 20c. (e.g. 1930 in "New York Times" stylebook) in
ref. to U.S. citizens of African descent, but because of its perceived
association with white-imposed attitudes and roles the word was ousted
late 1960s in this sense by Black (q.v.).

Modifié par Ryzaki, 12 mars 2010 - 07:58 .

[Greyhawk79]

Ryngard wrote...

There is a vast difference between what the other group wants and what YOU want. You want to take away an option. You also do so in a condescending way that basically shows that you think it "icky" and "wrong". HUGE difference.

I hope this topic is closed quickly.

It is icky and wrong. That being said Shepard should feel free to be icky and wrong. Everyone gets to choose to be icky if they want to. Its what the Alliance is about. Government is to protect freedom not take it as so many people want. No one is wrong thinking its "icky and wrong" your only wrong if you feel the need to force your belief on someone else. There for the option should be there to persue or depending on you preference. But its absolutly "icky and wrong."

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

You have n***er , n***a (slang friend exclusive word) and then you have ******.So one you say ****** or n****r it's offensive because the older generation had the word used against a racial slur and never in a good way.



Now as far as blacks / african american depends on who you use it around.



Catching up

[thegreateski]

diskoh wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

diskoh wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

This country is strange.

That's hate speech.

Aye this too. But this is in the US so I don't know about anywhere else.

****** and N**** are pretty much interchangeable at times. So...yeah.

He knows what he's saying. He knows it's offensive. If he didn't he would have used a more innocuous term. He intentionally used it because he likes to say inflamatory things and then act naive when people are offended. It's a common tactic of racists.

Please go dunk your head in a barrel of water. Mine is a strictly acedemic question.

[Varenus Luckmann]

Ryzaki wrote...
[...]

And how pray tell is ****** any more specific?

Read up.

Wittand25 wrote...
The africans north of the sahara are more brown than black. "Schwarzafrika" as we call it in german is only south of the sahara.

Indeed. Completely seperate ethnicities, nations and racial groupings.

Modifié par Varenus Luckmann, 12 mars 2010 - 07:59 .