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[tripehound1]

Spatchmo wrote...

tripehound1 wrote...

Spatchmo wrote...

I don't think Greece will be winning Eurovision this year!

Don't like eurovision! are there any metal or punk bands this year/ lol that would've been a preposterous question before Lordi...

I know Sweden had a couple potential metal / punk bands, but they were eliminated in favor of songs like "Manboy". I am not sure which countries have officially selected their songs and which are still in the pre-selection phase.

well I tell you who won't win, the UK! our entries always suck! lol gina g

[DeadRed1488]

tripehound1 wrote...

DeadRed1488 wrote...

Well, I'm not really trying to be the antagonist, I'm not even against the gay romance group. I just saw a fellow patriot being attacked for their beliefs, and NS is very important to me. So I posted.

heh heh you're a patriotic national-socialist, but you're username sounds communist... Awesome!

If you're a patriot and not Swedish, shouldn't you NOT defend Varenus?

Actually my username is about killing communists, just pointing out. And I defend my race as a whole.

[Soruyao]

So, I think there's only one place this thread can go!

[tripehound1]

diskoh wrote...

I'm going to bed.

Peace and love to the non-naz is.

Cancer and car accidents to the n azis.

lol maybe slightly harsh! but g'night! (I hope you aren't in my time zone, cause it's gone way past late an popped back up on early!)

[C6541]

Just an update.

[Spitz6860]

i have to admit as a straight male, the character Zevran in Dragon Age did disturb me a little bit. while i don't mind having gay romance as an option, i don't wanna see guys hitting on my character constantly in a game like ME3

[Spatchmo]

tripehound1 wrote...

well I tell you who won't win, the UK! our entries always suck! lol gina g

Wasn't your song last year by Andrew Lloydd Weber? He should really retire. Right now he is working on the sequel to "Phantom of the Opera" called "Phantom Goes to New York" or whatever and the phantom chills in Coney Island or something like that.

Also, here is Sweden's "Manboy"...

Hehe the song is called "Manboy".

[diskoh]

The 1488 in DeadRed's name is a white supremacist code. The 88 is for the 8th letter of the alphabet. HH. Heil Hitler.



The 14 is for the 14 words... I don't remember them specifically, but it's something along the lines of "We must secure the future of the white race..."



Just thought I'd point that out. Night night.

[C6541]

Spitz6860 wrote...

i have to admit as a straight male, the character Zevran in Dragon Age did disturb me a little bit. while i don't mind having gay romance as an option, i don't wanna see guys hitting on my character constantly in a game like ME3

Then we should remove open heterosexual flirting.

It's ridiculous when some straight people act like they are the only ones who can be offended.

[LiquidGrape]

Homophobes, you just got served.

[phordicus]

i feel compelled to aimlessly post in a thread destined to be locked, if not deleted.

[C6541]

phordicus wrote...

i feel compelled to aimlessly post in a thread destined to be locked, if not deleted.

DO IT NARC!

[tripehound1]

Spatchmo wrote...

tripehound1 wrote...

well I tell you who won't win, the UK! our entries always suck! lol gina g

Wasn't your song last year by Andrew Lloydd Weber? He should really retire. Right now he is working on the sequel to "Phantom of the Opera" called "Phantom Goes to New York" or whatever and the phantom chills in Coney Island or something like that.

Also, here is Sweden's "Manboy"...

Hehe the song is called "Manboy".

shudders lloyd weber! he must die! not retire! lol

I will be voting for sweden! "Manboy manboy you can call me manboy" lol

no Andrew Lloyd Weber for ME3!

[tripehound1]

diskoh wrote...

The 1488 in DeadRed's name is a white supremacist code. The 88 is for the 8th letter of the alphabet. HH. Heil Hitler.

The 14 is for the 14 words... I don't remember them specifically, but it's something along the lines of "We must secure the future of the white race..."

Just thought I'd point that out. Night night.

I did not know that! my knowledge pretty much stops at boot laces! the only numbers I know are the ones which apply to me! 1337! lol gamerz

[LiquidGrape]

DON'T STOP ME NOW; DON'T STOP ME 'CAUSE I'M HAVING A GOOD TIME, HAVING  A GOOD TIME!

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 12 mars 2010 - 10:48 .

[Shockwave81]

I hear that Kasumi DLC is not free? That sucks.



Oh - wrong thread.

[Wittand25]

This thread is the best argument for including same-sex romances in a game ever.

Bioware to you want to have this kind of thread continuing here ?
If no, grab Meer, Hale and two of the Li voice actors, drag them to a recording studio to record any missing lines and implent the romances as soon as possible so that this madnes finally can stop.

[C6541]

Wittand25 wrote...

This thread is the best argument for including same-sex romances in a game ever.

Bioware to you want to have this kind of thread continuing here ?
If no, grab Meer, Hale and two of the Li voice actors, drag them to a recording studio to record any missing lines and implent the romances as soon as possible so that this madnes finally can stop.

MADNESS?

THIS
IS
SPARTA?

[Soruyao]

Wittand25 wrote...

This thread is the best argument for including same-sex romances in a game ever.

Bioware to you want to have this kind of thread continuing here ?
If no, grab Meer, Hale and two of the Li voice actors, drag them to a recording studio to record any missing lines and implent the romances as soon as possible so that this madnes finally can stop.

Indeed.  I find it amusing that people think bioware took out the same sex romance to reduce contraversy.

It sure did create a bunch.

[Grizzly46]

This must be the most strange and from the start derailed thread in the history of the internet (or at least for the last couple of days), so I thought I'd get on the topic and write down something about it. Of course, since I'm trolling and tries to get on topic, the thread will immediately be locked and I will get a warning...

Anyway:

I find it strange that the issue of same-sex relationships in an RPG like ME stirs up so many emotions. We have the very active gay lobby in that other mega thread, we have the less organized and and less focused anti-gay people in this thread... But why?

If one selects to pursuit a romance with a team mate, there is absolutely nothing that stands in your way - there are no difficulties what so ever to land the LI of your choice. Furthermore, the LI has no impact on the story as a whole, and is more of a distraction than anything else. This of course ties in with the inability to select a just friends path with any love interest that are of no interest. Ditch the person and you can't talk to him/her any longer.

Overall, the entire relationship system needs to be worked over, a little like in say NWN2 where your actions actually mattered to the people around you - and balancing your acts so that a certain hunter was happy just as a certain paladin was not an easy task, but much more rewarding.We don't have that in ME. We can either be friends with people of the same gender, or in most cases with the opposite gender, pursuit a romance (with a couple of exceptions of course). Another example would be the romances in BG2 which took a looong time to develop properly. In ME1, I think it took two chats with the asari Liara to land her...

Now, this miniscule and badly developed relationship system is under attack from the gay lobby who wants same sex romances, and I can't for my life understand why - they want to cure a symtom and not the disease. If we get same sex relationships (which I don't really oppose, even if it is not in my interest but then, I have no interest in playing a female Shepard either) the relationships might end up just as badly as the heterosexual love interests - two talks and then the man on man love scene.

That is my first objection to the topic. My second is that the timeframe seems too small to allow for the development of a proper love interest - or rather, SHepard has too much other things going on than trying to talk someone down just for the fun of it. This might of course be because of the very narrowed down universe we have to play in as well - there aren't really enough space and dead time to use for flirts and banter (the one and only exception would be when you bring Tali and Garrus to the Citadel).

I also have a third objection to all this, but that is more personal, and I doubt many will agree with me, but I think it is unprofessional by Shepard, a ship's commander to try to bed his subordinates. For reference, see An Indecent Proposal...

Modifié par Grizzly46, 12 mars 2010 - 12:03 .

[Louis deGuerre]

@op : Haters gotta hate. Suck it up, haters !

[Wittand25]

Grizzly46 wrote...

...

An honest post desevers an honest answer so :

The romances while not affecting the main game do affect the emotional context of the game. Play throug ME1 with and without a romance, both the lockdown and the flight to Ilios are far more involving if you did persue a romance. Bioware games are also always about allowing the player as many freedoms as resonable possible for creating and playing their character in the game, having such an arbitary restiction regarding male Shepard sticks out (even moreso when you consider that every single female of marriable age wants to have sex with him. And additionally one cannot even claim that a story or character reason for the npc companions to be unavailable for a s/s romance because unlike in DA the npcs treat Shepard exactly the same way nomatter if Shepard is male or female so they all seem to be halfflirting with Shepard regardless of gender but the final line that starts the romance is missing.
Not to mention that providing 5 straight options for a male Shepard ( not even counting one-night stands) but not a single gay one is remarkable and leads to ceratain questions.

[FlintlockJazz]

I'm against my character being constantly hit regardless of gender.  Seriously, if they add in gay romance thats just yet more characters to turn down in a single playthrough, they need to stop having the romance LIs throw themselves at Shepard and more or less force themselves on him, regardless of gender.  Can they at least make us work for the romance?

The amount of times I was raped by Ashley...

[UltraBoy360]

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

diskoh wrote...
It is the polar opposite of socialism. it's fascism.

If you think of a checklist of evils that man has  carried out, each checkmark will be one of the core tenants of National  Socialism / N azism. Eugenics, racism, eliminationism, and so on.

It's a mental disorder.

*facepalm*

If you truly  want to be politically educated beyond "dat's racism!" and "natzism is am ental disorder lol!" feel free to contact me. Other than that, I'm way, way too tired to continue this tirade today.

Massadonious1 wrote...
I've seen on-topic World of Warcraft threads turn into Iraq/Afghanistan war debates.
The internets is funny sometimes.

Thanks. But I don't really feel the need to be educated by you on National Socialism, so I'm not gonna PM you. I have, y'know, an education, so am very familiar with both modern and 1920-40's facism. Good for you that you're proud enough about it to reference it on your Bioware profile (I'm gonna guess you play renegade and supported Terra Firma in ME1).

What is unbelievable is that you come to these forums and make countless hate-filled posts about people who would like a brief same sex romance in a video game and maybe (shock!) equal rights when i comes to relationships, taxes, marriage, pensions and you subscribe to a political ideology that is responsible for tens of millions of murders.

Maybe not really unbelievable I guess. But fraking depressing non-the-less.  

[Estelindis]

Personally, I feel a bit uncomfortable when a same-sex character hits on my player character. But I imagine that homosexual people feel the same about being hit on by opposite-sex characters. I don't see why my experience should be deemed more important than theirs just because I'm in a demographic majority. If same-sex romance is not included in a game, it should only be because 1) the devs didn't have time, or 2) it's not part of the story that the writers want to tell. As a side-point, I'm not in favour of all characters in a game being bi-sexual, as I think that's disrespectful towards the real sexual differences that exist between us. But, if there was some good story reason for the devs to make it that way, I would make an exception.



Even if one has religious and/or ideological objections to homosexual behaviour, that doesn't mean that one should be disrespectful towards gay people or lobby for them to get *less* of an in-game experience than they otherwise would. If anything, one should be more considerate and put some effort into understanding those who are different. How one treats those who are not like oneself is one of the main factors that defines the ethical character of any society.



I would have posted this in the group you created, but it looks like one needs to join to post - and, in spite of the description stating that the group is not homophobic, I don't want to even give the appearance of supporting its agenda. We should try to live and let live. That is all.