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[ScotGaymer]

incinerator950 wrote...

FitScotGaymer wrote...

Thank you.

Thats pretty much all we want. The choice.

Its not a choice you need to make so thus having it there doesnt affect you does it?  No, Which you clearly realise.

Im glad to find someone on the "other side" who isnt just being a frightened idiot bigot about it all. I still think however this thread should be locked and the anti gay group closed.
I am sure its a violation of the sites terms and conditions; and under British law I am sure that pro-gay groups would have a decent civil case against Bioware (and EA) as the site administrators for allowing this kind of prejudice and bigotry to continue. Dunno about US and Canadian law tho.

We don't give a flying **** about that stuff.  We throw the word N*****f** around too much to care.  You guys have civil cases about stupid **** like this?  That can't be right because if it was places like 4chan and 7chan would have been banned, you have to be joking me.

Yes actually.

Recently the BNP a pro English (they say British when they really mean English) neo **** political fringe party in the UK was pretty much gelded by our courts.
They were forced to change their constitution to allow membership in their organisation for Blacks, Gays, Asians, Yellows, Blues, Greens, and all colours and creeds. Which will pretty much kill them as a party (thank god!)

And just cause I said that that under British Law Bioware COULD be held responsible for propogating hate and intolerance (which IS illegal in this country by the way) and while they couldnt be held criminally responsible what with not being "resident" in the UK they could possibly be civilly held responsible.
And I am not saying that they WOULD be taken to court; or even that such an action would even be brought at all. Its a possibility is all.

I was merely saying that because I wish that the moderators and Bioware would be more diligent about patrolling the forums and site to ensure "good behaviour" of its users. They want us to become a thriving community like Bethesda has; right now this community has a very real danger of becoming like the Total War community or the Halo community.

Something I would very much like to avoid.

[ohbarf]

Hellhawx wrote...

It is a shame to see how immature both sides are on this. The people supporting homosexuality are calling the supporters of heterosexuality homophobes, while the other side is bringing up stupid hate comments. I'm dissapointed by both sides on this. The heterosexuality side needs to stop being immature and be repectful while the homosexuality side needs to stop acting like some all righteous pricks and understand that both sides get an opinion and start repecting the opposition's.

Yes, I DO NOT want same sex romancing in Mass Effect 3. Why? Because I do not want a male squadmate eyeing more or having romantic feelings with me (I always play as a male). At the same time I don't want to stumble into a romance plot that I didn't want (I accidently stumbled in a plot with Jack and regret it). I do not care what your sexual orientation is or judge you for it, it doesn't make me a homophobe for not wanting same sex romance options, it means that I do not want to see them!

I've seen some of the options presented by the same sex group of having a different dialogue color for romance plots, I don't want to see that option with male squadmates and I don't want to see it as a seperate dialogue tree with my female squadmates. If it is some option in the options menu where you can turn on or off the option, I may be okay with that, I still don't like it but at least it would allow it to stay out of my gameplay.

I've said this with almost any topic that BSN users have demanded, whether that is what characters make their way into ME3, what events will occur in ME3, and now also with sexual orientation. Its BioWare's game, they make the events, the story, and gameplay. They make the tracks, we are taken for a ride. It is not the other way around. Whatever BioWare decides will be in their game (whether that means all Talimaniacs loose her [and she is a favorite of mine]) or whatever. BioWare makes the final word on the story and I hope to God that BioWare is not influenced to side track their story from what they want in order to appease the demands of the community. Whether thats characters, story, events, and sexuality. They want to add it then it will be there they don't, then it won't. Either way, I will still love BioWare for their work. Do I have preferences, yes, but I don't want that to change what BioWare's plans are.

We do not even know each species' take on homosexuality. What we can speculate: Asari have no concept or understanding of gender as if one uniform asexual society. Salarians have no concept of love as we understand as offspring are formed under negotiations of heritage lines. Krogan will have no respect or concept of/for homosexuality within their own as it goes against their survival goal. What do Turians think? What do Batarians think? How much has political correctness and sensitivity changed human thought?

The best way I can see BioWare going about and appeasing those that want homosexuality, they can add one gay squadmate. I don't want to see every squadmate available as a romance option for multiple sexualities as I don't want every character to be bisexual. One gay squadmate that Shepard can choose to stay friends with or pursue deeper relations. Do I like this idea, not a freakin chance. Would I live with it if BioWare took this route, of course. I just don't want to accidently fall into this gay romance plot, I'd rather it be an upfront acknowledging or easy to see in the paragon dialogue option that it would pursue gay romance plot. Not through stupid color coating but maybe Shepard acknowledging his orrientation.

To sum up what I've said. I DO NOT want same sex romance options, that doesn't make me a homophobe as many of you double-standard breaking homosexualality supporters keep calling us! At the same time, you heterosuxuality supporters don't help when you go about this discussion in an ill immature manner! If there is a homosexual squadmate in ME3 or a gameplay menu option, I would deal with it but my overall choice is that I don't want to see it at all.

If you don't like what I have to say, that is too bad, but you better damn well respect my opinion if you want any respect whatsoever for your views.

I'm going to quote all of this because there's a lot of truth in it.

[Lightice_av]

Pretty sure you'd break a few of Joker's bones.

Just let him be on top and you'll be fine.

[Crimmsonwind]

Dethateer wrote...

Pretty sure you'd break a few of Joker's bones.

The only one that matters is the one in his pants. He's got medication for the rest.

[Dethateer]

I kinda lost track of who's who around here, but... aw, hell. I'm out.

[Ryzaki]

So just seeing it mentioned is offensive?

Great now you can feel how I do whenever Miranda bends over.

Discomfort for everyone!

Modifié par Ryzaki, 12 mars 2010 - 11:10 .

[incinerator950]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...

FitScotGaymer wrote...

Thank you.

Thats pretty much all we want. The choice.

Its not a choice you need to make so thus having it there doesnt affect you does it?  No, Which you clearly realise.

Im glad to find someone on the "other side" who isnt just being a frightened idiot bigot about it all. I still think however this thread should be locked and the anti gay group closed.
I am sure its a violation of the sites terms and conditions; and under British law I am sure that pro-gay groups would have a decent civil case against Bioware (and EA) as the site administrators for allowing this kind of prejudice and bigotry to continue. Dunno about US and Canadian law tho.

We don't give a flying **** about that stuff.  We throw the word N*****f** around too much to care.  You guys have civil cases about stupid **** like this?  That can't be right because if it was places like 4chan and 7chan would have been banned, you have to be joking me.

Yes actually.

Recently the BNP a pro English (they say British when they really mean English) neo **** political fringe party in the UK was pretty much gelded by our courts.
They were forced to change their constitution to allow membership in their organisation for Blacks, Gays, Asians, Yellows, Blues, Greens, and all colours and creeds. Which will pretty much kill them as a party (thank god!)

And just cause I said that that under British Law Bioware COULD be held responsible for propogating hate and intolerance (which IS illegal in this country by the way) and while they couldnt be held criminally responsible what with not being "resident" in the UK they could possibly be civilly held responsible.
And I am not saying that they WOULD be taken to court; or even that such an action would even be brought at all. Its a possibility is all.

I was merely saying that because I wish that the moderators and Bioware would be more diligent about patrolling the forums and site to ensure "good behaviour" of its users. They want us to become a thriving community like Bethesda has; right now this community has a very real danger of becoming like the Total War community or the Halo community.

Something I would very much like to avoid.

Sucks to live in England, and here I thought there were enough lawsuits in the US.

[Ryzaki]

Dethateer wrote...

Pretty sure you'd break a few of Joker's bones.

not necessarily people with his conditions have families, lovers and kids. There are certain ways to go around it.

[PyroFreak301]

I agree with this group.



Let's also ban alien romance, that's far more sickening than gay romance. Oh, we may as well ban Jacob and others while we're on the subject of irrational hatred, and make white the only available skin colour for Shepard.



Warning: This post may contain a large amount of sarcasm.

[Your Synthetic Superior]

I knew the moment that Bioware spawned the god forsaken asari hermaphrodite species that it would be a like opening the floodgates. It's not enough that Shepard can bed the intergalactic equivalent of post op tranny, but now the gays think they're entitled to smear Shepard's reputation further by soiling his manhood in some other guy's feces factory. The "female heroine" and "ethnic character creation" options were ridiculous enough, but a prancing fairy running around with some girlie anime hairstyle like some Japanese sissy and full body glitter? You know the old saying, "give a homosexual an inch and they'll keep backing up until they've taken 6 more." That's why we have to take a stand on this issue.

NO GAY SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS. (THEY CAN'T ACTUALLY BE CALLED ROMANCES AS ROMANCE IMPLIES THAT IT WOULD BE MORE THAN JUST SEX AND WE ALL KNOW THE GAYS ARE PROMISCUOUS AND LIBIDINOUS HEDONIST WHO ARE ONLY AFTER BUTTHOLE.) 

I already knew homosexuals were horrible, immoral and apathetic monsters hell bent on the destruction of the human race. But this thread has shown me that they are also hypocritical, hateful and belligerent anarchist. They talk about freedom of expression, equal rights and all that jazz, but as soon as they hear a position they disagree with they want the opposition crushed. The nerve of those effeminate nancies to demand this wholesome and moral thread, which takes a bold stand for common decency, be removed while the homosexual orgy thread be permitted to continue advocating the extinction of humanity. I bet all those homosexuals are hoping the reapers win. 

[Ashira Shepard]

"Shepard is right to be concerned, you may have suffered a number of stress fractures." - "That's what pills are for EDI!"



*harmless smile*

[Ryzaki]

Your Synthetic Superior wrote...


I knew the moment that Bioware spawned the god forsaken asari hermaphrodite species that it would be a like opening the floodgates. It's not enough that Shepard can bed the intergalactic equivalent of post op tranny, but now the gays think they're entitled to smear Shepard's reputation further by soiling his manhood in some other guy's feces factory. The "female heroine" and "ethnic character creation" options were ridiculous enough, but a prancing fairy running around with some girlie anime hairstyle like some Japanese sissy and full body glitter? You know the old saying, "give a homosexual an inch and they'll keep backing up until they've taken 6 more." That's why we have to take a stand on this issue.

NO GAY SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS. (THEY CAN'T ACTUALLY BE CALLED ROMANCES AS ROMANCE IMPLIES THAT IT WOULD BE MORE THAN JUST SEX AND WE ALL KNOW THE GAYS ARE PROMISCUOUS AND LIBIDINOUS HEDONIST WHO ARE ONLY AFTER BUTTHOLE.) 

I already knew homosexuals were horrible, immoral and apathetic monsters hell bent on the destruction of the human race. But this thread has shown me that they are also hypocritical, hateful and belligerent anarchist. They talk about freedom of expression, equal rights and all that jazz, but as soon as they hear a position they disagree with they want the opposition crushed. The nerve of those effeminate nancies to demand this wholesome and moral thread, which takes a bold stand for common decency, be removed while the homosexual orgy thread be permitted to continue advocating the extinction of humanity. I bet all those homosexuals are hoping the reapers win. 

I can't tell if that's saracasm or not. They broke my saracasm detector in this thread.

[incinerator950]

AshiraShepard wrote...

"Shepard is right to be concerned, you may have suffered a number of stress fractures." - "That's what pills are for EDI!"

*harmless smile*

meh, crawling on the knees was more humerous.

[Ashira Shepard]

"Monster" is a very strong term. Rapists, pedophiles and mass murderers are monsters. I fail to see how good, decent people fall into that category. We're not "hellbent" on the destruction of the human race; you guys are hellbent on wiping us out of existence for no other reason than what we do in the privacy of our own damn homes.

Modifié par AshiraShepard, 12 mars 2010 - 11:14 .

[ScotGaymer]

incinerator950 wrote...

Sucks to live in England, and here I thought there were enough lawsuits in the US.

Ahem I actually live in Scotland. Which is a constituent nation of the United Kingdom aka Britain.

Just fot I would point that out. So you know that England and Britain are NOT the same thing.

And why does the government pushing and promoting through rule of law tolerance, acceptance, and harmony suck exactly? You have kind of lost me on that one there.

Your right however the US DOES have a lot more frivolous lawsuits than the UK but we arent far behind you. Like I said I was only speaking as far as you could go "technically". Ie Technically there could be a case of action but the likelihood of it happening? Almost nil.

[Allison W]

Your Synthetic Superior wrote...


I knew the moment that Bioware spawned the god forsaken asari hermaphrodite species that it would be a like opening the floodgates. It's not enough that Shepard can bed the intergalactic equivalent of post op tranny, but now the gays think they're entitled to smear Shepard's reputation further by soiling his manhood in some other guy's feces factory. The "female heroine" and "ethnic character creation" options were ridiculous enough, but a prancing fairy running around with some girlie anime hairstyle like some Japanese sissy and full body glitter? You know the old saying, "give a homosexual an inch and they'll keep backing up until they've taken 6 more." That's why we have to take a stand on this issue.

NO GAY SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS. (THEY CAN'T ACTUALLY BE CALLED ROMANCES AS ROMANCE IMPLIES THAT IT WOULD BE MORE THAN JUST SEX AND WE ALL KNOW THE GAYS ARE PROMISCUOUS AND LIBIDINOUS HEDONIST WHO ARE ONLY AFTER BUTTHOLE.) 

I already knew homosexuals were horrible, immoral and apathetic monsters hell bent on the destruction of the human race. But this thread has shown me that they are also hypocritical, hateful and belligerent anarchist. They talk about freedom of expression, equal rights and all that jazz, but as soon as they hear a position they disagree with they want the opposition crushed. The nerve of those effeminate nancies to demand this wholesome and moral thread, which takes a bold stand for common decency, be removed while the homosexual orgy thread be permitted to continue advocating the extinction of humanity. I bet all those homosexuals are hoping the reapers win. 

What decency? You have none.

[Ashira Shepard]

*gives Allison a cookie*

[Lightice_av]

What decency? You have none.

Let him talk. He puts so much offensive stuff in a string that it becomes hilarious.



Incidentally, I don't envy the mods when they try to unravel this cesspool of crazy from every single side involved.

[Ryzaki]

Lightice_av wrote...

What decency? You have none.

Let him talk. He puts so much offensive stuff in a string that it becomes hilarious.

Incidentally, I don't envy the mods when they try to unravel this cesspool of crazy from every single side involved.

Aw man. Woo's going to be pissy afterwards. We're all going to get banned.

Without even telling us how long either. <_<

[Ashira Shepard]

Pro



On the Fence



Against



Pure Hater



I don't blame them for not wanting to deal with this thread now that I think about it.

[Your Synthetic Superior]

PyroFreak301 wrote...

I agree with this group.

Let's also ban alien romance, that's far more sickening than gay romance. Oh, we may as well ban Jacob and others while we're on the subject of irrational hatred, and make white the only available skin colour for Shepard.

Here! Here!! Glad that there are other people with some sense.

Those disgusting hermaphrodite chicks with dicks asari are bad enough, but now we have a dirty, sneaky, diseased, theiving chicken legged gypsy romance? Seriously? That's almost as bad as the out of place "female heroine" throwing herself at a god damned hip hoppin beboppin shoulder leaning nigg... black. What next? Will we be forced to romance a penny pinching jew volus?

Modifié par Your Synthetic Superior, 12 mars 2010 - 11:24 .

[Crimmsonwind]

Seeya Dethateer.

I'm gonna cut myself off of this for now before I get sucked back in, but I just wanna have some parting words.

Now, I'm bi, so I really don't give a flying **** who's hitting on me XD But I don't want that to be the entire game. I'd like romances to be a bit more in depth, with alot more platonic dialogue, because I think that would make a lot of people happy on both sides. It kind of sucks that it only takes two or three conversations to be "in a relationship" with somebody, especially when I really just want to be friends with that character, and I happen to like talking to them.

I can understand that some people are uncomfortable with being hit on by somebody of the same gender. Hell, even I was a little leery of Kelly's eagerness. I understand that you don't want to have to avoid characters out of fear of ending up in some relationship with them. But if there are obvious dialogue choices in the third game that you can steer clear of to avoid romance and stick to platonic conversations, would you be happy with that? Whether it be by some kind of color-coding, or simply obvious wording, or something. But seriously, would you guys be ok with that? I really want to know.

We all also have to face the possibility that our wishes won't be implemented because we're "uncomfortable." We're gonna have to suck it up and deal with it. This is BioWare's game. And if they want to put in same-sex romances as they already have, and risk offending some hard-line people to appease some gay people, then they have the right to do it. You still played the game, didn't you? 

And guys, do you REALLY not want to be able to play as a femShep and hook up with someone like Liara or Kelly? 

Alright, I'm out for now. Let's try and get along, for real.

[incinerator950]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...

Sucks to live in England, and here I thought there were enough lawsuits in the US.

Ahem I actually live in Scotland. Which is a constituent nation of the United Kingdom aka Britain.

Just fot I would point that out. So you know that England and Britain are NOT the same thing.

And why does the government pushing and promoting through rule of law tolerance, acceptance, and harmony suck exactly? You have kind of lost me on that one there.

Your right however the US DOES have a lot more frivolous lawsuits than the UK but we arent far behind you. Like I said I was only speaking as far as you could go "technically". Ie Technically there could be a case of action but the likelihood of it happening? Almost nil.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.  You shouldn't be violently opressing people, but you can't force people to lose their beliefs.  Besides, this is the internet, if people create lawsuits over the internet, then free will might as well go out the drain with my alcohol.

[Ashira Shepard]

YSS: This one disapproves of your wafer thin view of the world.

Modifié par AshiraShepard, 12 mars 2010 - 11:21 .

[Crimmsonwind]

Also, the asari are not hermaphrodites. They're mono gendered. And that gender happens to be female.