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#1251
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I don't get why some people (gay bashers) don't seem to understand this:

Homosexual People = Normal People
Heterosexual People = Normal People

Evil ******/Hetero Sexual People = Evil People
Good ******/Hetero Sexual People = Good People

I guess people only want to understand what they want to understand.
I am gonna go out for a while.

#1252
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Crimmsonwind wrote...

Also, the asari are not hermaphrodites. They're mono gendered. And that gender happens to be female.

Anything that looks like a female is good enough for me. No more questions asked.

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man on man that's not cool that's all i am saying

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Ryzaki wrote...

I'm going going to quote myself for the whole: Asari aren't women! Crowd.



A typical asari individual has a blue to purple complexion; the gas giant Sharblu
was named after a famous asari soprano with a distinctive skin tone
that resembled the planet's atmosphere. Some asari, such as their
representative on the Council, have facial markings. In concept art, Matriarch Benezia's are described as tattoos; however, they appear to be genetic as they appear on one asari's clones, and may denote the 'father' species (as Liara T'Soni,
the daughter of two asari, has none). In the place of head hair, asari
possess wavy folds of sculpted skin; aside from this and their skin
tone, aesthetically the asari are the closest alien species to humans.
There is some conflicting information regarding the gender of the
asari. Though they resemble females, at least to humans, asari are
non-gender specific, with no concept of gender differences.
Liara says
her species is "mono-gendered—male and female have no real meaning for
us," and, if asked, says that she is "not precisely a woman". However,
in the
Codex it is stated that the asari are an all-female race. The Galactic Codex: Essentials Edition 2183
says that "while asari have only one gender, they are not asexual like
single-celled life—all asari are sexually female", and according to
Liara they also have maternal instincts. They are innately different
from humans for asari can crossbreed with other species and inherit
certain traits.


Not having a concept of something doesn't mean it doesn't apply to you.

Also: LOL every single Asari is referred to as she or some other female pronoun. Care to explain that? 


Here so the asari thing will go away.

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Thank you Ryzaki ^^

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mass effect for ever wrote...

man on man that's not cool that's all i am saying

You're right, it is quite hot. Good point, well made.

On another note, I think YSS is pushing the boundaries of internet sarcasm. Those offended need better sarcasm detectors.

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incinerator950 wrote...

FitScotGaymer wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...

Sucks to live in England, and here I thought there were enough lawsuits in the US.



Ahem I actually live in Scotland. Which is a constituent nation of the United Kingdom aka Britain.

Just fot I would point that out. So you know that England and Britain are NOT the same thing.

And why does the government pushing and promoting through rule of law tolerance, acceptance, and harmony suck exactly? You have kind of lost me on that one there.

Your right however the US DOES have a lot more frivolous lawsuits than the UK but we arent far behind you. Like I said I was only speaking as far as you could go "technically". Ie Technically there could be a case of action but the likelihood of it happening? Almost nil.


Everyone is entitled to their opinion.  You shouldn't be violently opressing people, but you can't force people to lose their beliefs.  Besides, this is the internet, if people create lawsuits over the internet, then free will might as well go out the drain with my alcohol.



LOL.

Like I said. I was speaking of a "technical breach" in terms of british law. I never once said that it would be pursued. And repeatedly said it wouldnt.
The logistics of it would be prohibitively expensive and thus just not happen.

Theres a difference between freely voicing your opinion in support or opposition to something and being intolerant and hateful.
That person earlier who voiced his dissapproval for homosexuality in a thought out and logical manner I actually THANKED for his opinion because he expressed it in a way that does not hate on or oppress me or others like me (The Gays of the Forum).

While it makes me sad that people still hate/dislike/disapprove of homosexuality based from some strange pseudo religious reasoning in this day and age; I cant and wont say anything negative to him because he is just expressing his opinion. I cant deny him the right to do that. Nor would I. (Nor would the law of my country for the record)

What I and others like me are objecting to this the blatant irrational intolerance and hatred. The whole premise of the anti gay group is rediculous.
As if we are lobbying for Bioware to turn Mass Effect into a completely gay only game. Which is just mad.

We only want consistancy. FemShep can be a bisexual/lesbian. ManShep can only be straight. Having the option there does not affect you if you do not choose to pursue it; there are ways to include it but have it "invisible" to those who dont want to see it.

Either all of the options should be in or none of them should be. ManShep should have the same choice as FemShep. If Shep is straight then make him straight across the board.
None of this hypocritical double standards bull.

Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 12 mars 2010 - 11:33 .


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They better remember to add Female on Female if they do same sex relationships.

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I'm certainly having a hard time taking that as sarcasm, seriously; I'm not at all surprised if that level of hate exists. However, if he is being sarcastic...*shakes head* Yes, pushing the boundries is an understatement.

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Oops double post.

Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 12 mars 2010 - 11:32 .


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They better remember to add Female on Female if they do same sex relationships.


Well, we already have Liara and bit of Kelly on the side...

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FitScotGaymer wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...

FitScotGaymer wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...

Sucks to live in England, and here I thought there were enough lawsuits in the US.



Ahem I actually live in Scotland. Which is a constituent nation of the United Kingdom aka Britain.

Just fot I would point that out. So you know that England and Britain are NOT the same thing.

And why does the government pushing and promoting through rule of law tolerance, acceptance, and harmony suck exactly? You have kind of lost me on that one there.

Your right however the US DOES have a lot more frivolous lawsuits than the UK but we arent far behind you. Like I said I was only speaking as far as you could go "technically". Ie Technically there could be a case of action but the likelihood of it happening? Almost nil.


Everyone is entitled to their opinion.  You shouldn't be violently opressing people, but you can't force people to lose their beliefs.  Besides, this is the internet, if people create lawsuits over the internet, then free will might as well go out the drain with my alcohol.



LOL.

Like I said. I was speaking of a "technical breach" in terms of british law. I never once said that it would be pursued. And repeatedly said it wouldnt.
The logistics of it would be prohibitively expensive and thus just not happen.

Theres a difference between freely voicing your opinion in support or opposition to something and being intolerant and hateful.
That person earlier who voiced his dissapproval for homosexuality in a thought out and logical manner I actually THANKED for his opinion because he expressed it in a way that does not hate on or oppress me or others like me (The Gays of the Forum).

While it makes me sad that people still hate/dislike/disapprove of homosexuality based from some strange pseudo religious reasoning in this day and age; I cant and wont say anything negative to him because he is just expressing his opinion. I cant deny him the right to do that. Nor would I. (Nor would the law of my country for the record)

What I and others like me are objecting to this the blatant irrational intolerance and hatred. The whole premise of the anti gay group is rediculous.
As if we are lobbying for Bioware to turn Mass Effect into a completely gay only game. Which is just mad.

We only want consistancy. FemShep can be a bisexual/lesbian. ManShep can only be straight. Having the option there does not affect you if you do not choose to pursue it; there are ways to include it but have it "invisible" to those who dont want to see it.


Cool story bra, I just want the game to be the game first, then with relationships.  

#1263
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side note: Kelly didn't count as a romance and was a fling at best. Hell, I didn't even realise she was an option until I read it somewhere.

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side note: Kelly didn't count as a romance and was a fling at best. Hell, I didn't even realise she was an option until I read it somewhere.


Yeah, she was badly underused. But she confirmed once and for all that FShep can be lesbian towards human women, as well.

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Crimmsonwind wrote...

I can understand that some people are uncomfortable with being hit on by somebody of the same gender. Hell, even I was a little leery of Kelly's eagerness. I understand that you don't want to have to avoid characters out of fear of ending up in some relationship with them. But if there are obvious dialogue choices in the third game that you can steer clear of to avoid romance and stick to platonic conversations, would you be happy with that? Whether it be by some kind of color-coding, or simply obvious wording, or something. But seriously, would you guys be ok with that? I really want to know.


Of course. I don't mind it being included, so long as we can omit it entirely given the option. Jacob sleazily eyeing up my m!Shep in the armoury is just as disconcerting as him eyeing up femshep, but for some reason it carried over to both genders, and the poses they strike were forced on both players. That's what I disliked about talking to Jacob in ME2; it looked like they'd leap into a passionate embrace after every line. Its bad enough with the unexpected Jack relationship, or Liara's 'omgiluvu' after one conversation in the first game. Less forced, more subtle plz. And definately more platonic conversations. I don't want to look like I only talk to my crew for sex.

Part of me wants to say 'no, put the resources somewhere else plz' but I know that's my selfish side so I'm kicking him back in the corner.

Another thing to raise is the gibbed save editor. If you disable the gender flag, you can have an M/M romance, (without m!Shep's voice unfortunately). But if Meer went and put in the effort to record some M/M lines for ME3, as was the case in the first game, then with quick gibbed editing (available for xbox and PC), you'll have what you want.

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AshiraShepard wrote...

I'm certainly having a hard time taking that as sarcasm, seriously; I'm not at all surprised if that level of hate exists. However, if he is being sarcastic...*shakes head* Yes, pushing the boundries is an understatement.


Then you should fit in perfectly here: http://www.landoverb...isplay.php?f=42

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AshiraShepard wrote...

I'm certainly having a hard time taking that as sarcasm, seriously; I'm not at all surprised if that level of hate exists. However, if he is being sarcastic...*shakes head* Yes, pushing the boundries is an understatement.

It's a bit of dark humour, being so offensive you just can't take it seriously. Apparently I'm the only one that laughed :(

Modifié par PyroFreak301, 12 mars 2010 - 11:37 .


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Well, I did get her to feed my fish *nudge nudge know what I mean* on my first playthrough... and then she got eaten! But revenge was mine! On my second playthrough I realised you don't even get the romance achievement for saving Kelly.

We do need some plushies though. A woman needs snuggly company in her bed when the Yeoman is on duty! I demand a Harbinger plushy that says "Assuming Direct Hugs!" in an annoyingly lovable voice!

Edit:
With the gender flag/voice file thing... you can do the same with Tali as a Femshep. There is apparently no voice (didn't bother to try), but all evidence suggests that the correct dialogues are there for a Tali F/F romance. Doesn't make any sense, but that's how it is.

Modifié par HaloKT, 12 mars 2010 - 11:39 .


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It's a bit of dark humour, being so offensive you just can't take it seriously. Apparently I'm the only one that's laughed :(



I laughed too, though I'm still not entirely sure what was serious and what was not.

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I'm tipsy right now, with my roommates watching MP Holy Grail across from me. Can someone fill me in?

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General Stubbs wrote...

I don't get why some people (gay bashers) don't seem to understand this:

Homosexual People = Normal People
Heterosexual People = Normal People

Evil ******/Hetero Sexual People = Evil People
Good ******/Hetero Sexual People = Good People

I guess people only want to understand what they want to understand.
I am gonna go out for a while.


That's opinion.

Society has let homosexuals down by treating them like their condition is normal after years of oppressing them. (A child can tell just by simple male and female anatomy that they go together) So we just let it be instead of trying to find out what prevents them from being normal and try to find the root of the problem. Oh sure there is plenty of theories, but no real answers. When someone gets an infection do they try to get better yes? They don't sit around pretending it's normal. But I digress. The world is this foolishness and the worst part is they try to keep pushing for it to looked upon as something acceptable and "normal".

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Why the hell did I click on that link? Augh...nearly lost my dinner; thanks ever so much.



More sunshine and bunnies! *lets rabbits loose everywhere*

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Oh great...not again with the missionary sex "A goes into B" theory.

Children follow what they are taught. My male cousin happened to like playing with my ponies and dolls until his mother constantly hit him for it (she was a bit on the homophobic side) he doesn't do it any more.

Go figure.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 12 mars 2010 - 11:45 .


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What about my plushy? Any word on that? If they put one up on the BioWare shop, I swear I'm so going to buy one.