You're not punished for what Adam and Eve did. Biblically the covenant that deemed what they did wrong was absolved. You are however punished for what you think, do and feel. The sin of creation no longer applies to us anymore.Collider wrote...
CShep25 wrote...
If that's the 'if there is a god, why is there so much suffering' question, then it's a case of free will.
Adam & Eve is an example of how such a perfect place would end up.
We have free will, and that's why God loves us. That's what the bible
says anyway. We make our own decisions, we screw up because we're only
human. Free will with all the baggage that comes with it is better than
being a mindless husk IMO.
No what I said was not that. But if you want to get into that, I have a similar response.
Being omnipotent, God could created a race of people who both had free will yet individually chose not to be evil or do evil things. Just as YOU choose to be a good person, despite having free will. Everyone errs once in a while, but as a whole most or at least a good number of people are decent folks. God being omnipotent could have done this with the snap of his celestial thumbs.
In addition, about Adam & Eve. Why I am punished for their actions? Why I am punished because God created Adam & Eve in this way? If God in omniscient, or knows everything, he would know that the way that he created Adam and Eve would result in them betraying him and therefore dooming the human race. So God punishes us because of the actions of creations that he know would act in that way? wtf? That's like getting mad over your robot doing what you programmed it to do.No I wouldn't. While I think of course that Hitler is trash, I could not in good conscious condenmn someone to eternal torture for finite sins. However slight, I'm sure there was some minute good to Hitler, I mean it's not like he wanted to set all of children of germany on fire. Also, it's funny that you mention Hitler when I just said that technically if the Bible is true, I would be going to hell. Generally speaking I don't consider myself comparable to Hitler in any meaningful way.And come on, you wouldn't send the likes of Hitler to hell?
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There is nothing finite about the sins applied to Hitler in a religious sense. If you judge Hitler solely on his ideals and leave any actions he may have taken or would have taken out of the equation he is still someone whom under any form of the religious ideologies would be going to hell. What he stood for at the very core of his doctrine falls very short of the literal term of evil.




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