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[Ryzaki]

addiction21 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

...human suffering was adam and eve's punishment for disobeying god. * If I'm not being punished I shouldn't suffer. Shouldn't be mortal either come to think of it.

Come to think about it...  you would not smell funny either.

ZING!!

Time for some waffles.

I do not smell funny you big meanie!

*runs away crying*

[slyguy07]

PyroFreak301 wrote...

slyguy07 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

slyguy07 wrote...

General Stubbs wrote...

I don't get why some people (gay bashers) don't seem to understand this:

Homosexual People = Normal People
Heterosexual People = Normal People

Evil ******/Hetero Sexual People = Evil People
Good ******/Hetero Sexual People = Good People

I guess people only want to understand what they want to understand.
I am gonna go out for a while.

That's opinion.

Society has let homosexuals down by treating them like their condition is normal after years of oppressing them. (A child can tell just by simple male and female anatomy that they go together) So we just let it be instead of trying to find out what prevents them from being normal and try to find the root of the problem. Oh sure there is plenty of theories, but no real answers. When someone gets an infection do they try to get better yes? They don't sit around pretending it's normal. But I digress. The world is this foolishness and the worst part is they try to keep pushing for it to looked upon as something acceptable and "normal".

That's opinion.

Society has let itself down in presuming other people's private interests are inherently right or wrong, or even the business of anyone else. Finally after years of unjustified oppression, we're finally learning to let people do their own thing when it doesn't hurt anyone else. The worst part is people keep trying to enforce their subjective 'norms' on other people when they have no business doing so.

Right because obviously nature intended for us to be homosexual. I mean that way we can reproduce...oh wait no we can't.

Because nature is capable of having intentions. Oh wait, it isn't.

Yeah apparently it does. But I won't bother wasting my time to argue with you.

[Crimmsonwind]

WarAxe7 wrote...

DaeJi wrote...

Hey, be nice people. Sad and amusing as I find them, there group has a right to exist, especially if the pro-gay romance group does. Disagree, debate, turn away in disgust (the three D's) but don't attack. I, for one, support this group's existence.

And I expect the same courtesy for the pro-gay romance group and their threads.

Admirable... but ultimately you are trying to speak in a mture way to a gaggle of scroungy kids and socially inept adults still living with their mom.   It usually goes badly, even if it's the right thing to do.

Why hello there, troll.

[Ryzaki]

slyguy07 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

slyguy07 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

slyguy07 wrote...

General Stubbs wrote...

I don't get why some people (gay bashers) don't seem to understand this:

Homosexual People = Normal People
Heterosexual People = Normal People

Evil ******/Hetero Sexual People = Evil People
Good ******/Hetero Sexual People = Good People

I guess people only want to understand what they want to understand.
I am gonna go out for a while.

That's opinion.

Society has let homosexuals down by treating them like their condition is normal after years of oppressing them. (A child can tell just by simple male and female anatomy that they go together) So we just let it be instead of trying to find out what prevents them from being normal and try to find the root of the problem. Oh sure there is plenty of theories, but no real answers. When someone gets an infection do they try to get better yes? They don't sit around pretending it's normal. But I digress. The world is this foolishness and the worst part is they try to keep pushing for it to looked upon as something acceptable and "normal".

That's opinion.

Society has let itself down in presuming other people's private interests are inherently right or wrong, or even the business of anyone else. Finally after years of unjustified oppression, we're finally learning to let people do their own thing when it doesn't hurt anyone else. The worst part is people keep trying to enforce their subjective 'norms' on other people when they have no business doing so.

Right because obviously nature intended for us to be homosexual. I mean that way we can reproduce...oh wait no we can't.

Because nature is capable of having intentions. Oh wait, it isn't.

Yeah apparently it does. But I won't bother wasting my time to argue with you.

What so called intentions does nature have? 

[PyroFreak301]

slyguy07 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

slyguy07 wrote...

Right because obviously nature intended for us to be homosexual. I mean that way we can reproduce...oh wait no we can't.

Because nature is capable of having intentions. Oh wait, it isn't.

Yeah apparently it does. But I won't bother wasting my time to argue with you.

Please, explain to me exactly how nature forms these intentions. I'm curious.

[Allison W]

slyguy07 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

slyguy07 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

slyguy07 wrote...

General Stubbs wrote...

I don't get why some people (gay bashers) don't seem to understand this:

Homosexual People = Normal People
Heterosexual People = Normal People

Evil ******/Hetero Sexual People = Evil People
Good ******/Hetero Sexual People = Good People

I guess people only want to understand what they want to understand.
I am gonna go out for a while.

That's opinion.

Society has let homosexuals down by treating them like their condition is normal after years of oppressing them. (A child can tell just by simple male and female anatomy that they go together) So we just let it be instead of trying to find out what prevents them from being normal and try to find the root of the problem. Oh sure there is plenty of theories, but no real answers. When someone gets an infection do they try to get better yes? They don't sit around pretending it's normal. But I digress. The world is this foolishness and the worst part is they try to keep pushing for it to looked upon as something acceptable and "normal".

That's opinion.

Society has let itself down in presuming other people's private interests are inherently right or wrong, or even the business of anyone else. Finally after years of unjustified oppression, we're finally learning to let people do their own thing when it doesn't hurt anyone else. The worst part is people keep trying to enforce their subjective 'norms' on other people when they have no business doing so.

Right because obviously nature intended for us to be homosexual. I mean that way we can reproduce...oh wait no we can't.

Because nature is capable of having intentions. Oh wait, it isn't.

Yeah apparently it does. But I won't bother wasting my time to argue with you.

No, no it doesn't. Nature has no intelligence of its own. It is not capable of forming intent. Nature's laws simply are, and are inviolable--by definition, if you can do something at all, it is not against nature's "intention." Two men successfully reproducing would, at least currently, be a violation of natural law on the grounds that it's physically impossible, but two men gettin' jiggy is not a violation of natural law, because it is physically possible to do. And if technology ever comes along that lets two men reproduce with one another, then they could do so, without violating natural law.

Remember, science and technology are bound by natural law, and thus, if science or technology can do something, that something is by definition within the scope of natural law.

[diskoh]

JoeyUsf813 wrote...

diskoh wrote...

JoeyUsf813 wrote...

We are part of the natural universe, not seperate. What we do should be considered natural. A bird builds a nest, and it is considered an act of nature. We build a house, and it is an act of nature. A man loves a man, and it is an act of nature. A woman loves a woman, and it is an act of nature.

You're part of the natural universe.

I tried editing it, but it never works for me.  It is changed now, but I think people will still get what I was trying to say based on the rest of the text.

I wasn't referring to any editing, it was just a non-sequitur.

[Crimmsonwind]

He's too cool to grace us with his "explanations."

[addiction21]

"I wont waste my time arguing with you" the phrase of a person with no actual argument to make.

[tripehound1]

slyguy07 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

slyguy07 wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

slyguy07 wrote...

General Stubbs wrote...

I don't get why some people (gay bashers) don't seem to understand this:

Homosexual People = Normal People
Heterosexual People = Normal People

Evil ******/Hetero Sexual People = Evil People
Good ******/Hetero Sexual People = Good People

I guess people only want to understand what they want to understand.
I am gonna go out for a while.

That's opinion.

Society has let homosexuals down by treating them like their condition is normal after years of oppressing them. (A child can tell just by simple male and female anatomy that they go together) So we just let it be instead of trying to find out what prevents them from being normal and try to find the root of the problem. Oh sure there is plenty of theories, but no real answers. When someone gets an infection do they try to get better yes? They don't sit around pretending it's normal. But I digress. The world is this foolishness and the worst part is they try to keep pushing for it to looked upon as something acceptable and "normal".

That's opinion.

Society has let itself down in presuming other people's private interests are inherently right or wrong, or even the business of anyone else. Finally after years of unjustified oppression, we're finally learning to let people do their own thing when it doesn't hurt anyone else. The worst part is people keep trying to enforce their subjective 'norms' on other people when they have no business doing so.

Right because obviously nature intended for us to be homosexual. I mean that way we can reproduce...oh wait no we can't.

Because nature is capable of having intentions. Oh wait, it isn't.

Yeah apparently it does. But I won't bother wasting my time to argue with you.

Nature has tendencies, it is incapable of having intentions.

I have an ACTUAL question, What "problem" do you see with homosexuality? I have no concern for who my neigbours are sleeping with, only who I'm sleeping with myself

[Torpasia]

JoeyUsf813 wrote...

We are a part of the natural universe, not seperate. What we do should be considered natural. A bird builds a nest, and it is considered an act of nature. We build a house, and it is an act of nature. A man loves a man, and it is an act of nature. A woman loves a woman, and it is an act of nature.

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Modifié par Torpasia, 13 mars 2010 - 03:24 .

[Collider]

Nature does not have conscious intention. That's all you need to know. What is natural also has no inherent value over what is not natural. We do not see computers develop from nature outside of human ingenuity, but that does not mean it is any lesser.

[Crimmsonwind]

And now for something completely different!

[PyroFreak301]

Crimmsonwind wrote...

He's too cool to grace us with his "explanations."

and eh doesnt afraid of anything.

Well apart from arguing a crappy point, apparently.

[Crimmsonwind]

PyroFreak301 wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

He's too cool to grace us with his "explanations."

and eh doesnt afraid of anything.

Well apart from arguing a crappy point, apparently.

XD

But is he an hero?

[Ryzaki]

addiction21 wrote...

"I wont waste my time arguing with you" the phrase of a person with no actual argument to make.

not always. I use that when I don't want to get into an abortion/religious debate with a pro-lifer.

Once you get into a large amount of circular debates you tend to see them coming a mile off and try to nip them in the bud to save time. (Unless of course you're bored).

[Saetanigera]

I'm with this group for one main reason: all LI's simply have less to say to anyone they aren't trying to bone. Garrus calibrated my weapons down to little nubs that don't fire anymore, seriously. The best same sex reference in the game came from being let down gently by someone who wasn't gay...and that was awkward, funny, and well-written. The game can't get stuck regarding every little thing people want to add. The requests for another full game worth of stuff for free on the Cerberus network (that don't even overlap each other) show how endless these requests really become.

[tripehound1]

Crimmsonwind wrote...
snip

XD

But is he an hero?

 

Everyone is the hero of their own story!

Modifié par tripehound1, 13 mars 2010 - 03:25 .

[Ziggy]

Collider wrote...

Nature does not have conscious intention. That's all you need to know. What is natural also has no inherent value over what is not natural. We do not see computers develop from nature outside of human ingenuity, but that does not mean it is any lesser.

Well said

[PyroFreak301]

Crimmsonwind wrote...

PyroFreak301 wrote...

Crimmsonwind wrote...

He's too cool to grace us with his "explanations."

and eh doesnt afraid of anything.

Well apart from arguing a crappy point, apparently.

XD

But is he an hero?

He seriously wants to become one.

[Inferno Sock]

CLOSE THIS THREAD!!!

[DaeJi]

Saetanigera wrote...

I'm with this group for one main reason: all LI's simply have less to say to anyone they aren't trying to bone. Garrus calibrated my weapons down to little nubs that don't fire anymore, seriously. The best same sex reference in the game came from being let down gently by someone who wasn't gay...and that was awkward, funny, and well-written. The game can't get stuck regarding every little thing people want to add. The requests for another full game worth of stuff for free on the Cerberus network (that don't even overlap each other) show how endless these requests really become.

The thing about the relationships is that we wouldn't be so sore about the lack of same sex romances if BioWare didn't already tease them in the games. Mass Effect has Liara who, according to them, isn't a true lesbian relationship and Mass Effect 2 had Kelly, a fling. Nothing for gay males. If BioWare had no same sex content what so ever, then our case would be less. As it is, they are toying with it, and we would just like to see them go all the way with it.

And we already said that we would pay for it. Many, many times.

[Crimmsonwind]

Inferno Sock wrote...

CLOSE THIS THREAD!!!

Believe you me, I'm working on getting that happening. XD

[PyroFreak301]

This thread needs more food.

[CShep25]

[quote]Collider wrote...


By VERY DEFINITION, an omnipotent God - meaning a God who could do anything could create humans as creatures with free will yet freely choose not to sin. Again, just like how you, CShep25, have free will yet you don't eat babies. Unless you do...O_O[/quote]

But you're explaining two very contradictory things. God will be imparting control over us if that were the case. You can't be a vegan if you're partial to the odd steak. By influencing our behaviour, he's exerting control entirely contrary to the very definition of free will. I don't eat babies because they don't taste very nice. That's my choice. God isn't mind controlling me to halt my apetite for baby flesh. Every person has a mind of their own and they make the decisions; whether they believe in a god, whether they commit crimes, whether they kill or save the council. God doesn't have any say over any of what we do, because that's the defintion of free will. Our minds, human, unshaped by a deity.


[quote]Collider wrote...


[quote]How are you being punished?[/quote]
Not being in the garden where everything is perfect, for example?
If I were a woman, I'd have great pains birthing children, for example?
Why? Because of Adam and Eve, peeps whom I had no control over. [/quote]

Ever heard of original sin? Its not really applicable anymore after Jesus died for our sins. We were forgiven for all that and now every person has a blank slate. We were dealt this card and now we live it.

Not being in a nice place is not a punishment. Getting tortured is a punishment. As I said before, life is supposed to be hard. Otherwise what is the point in having this Heavenly destination?


[quote]You've got a life that you're living. Do what you want with it. There has been no dooming; humanity is still going strong;[/quote]
I would consider humanity eventually being reaped by angels and plagues and earthquakes and fire and lightning and war and...in relevation as effectively an addiction that humanity is doomed.[/quote]

If you believe in Revelations that is. I'm not quite sold on that topic as I said before.

[quote]Collider wrote...


[quote]but everything so far that's happened is because of your own free will; your own decisions.[/quote]
??? If I had my way, the world would have no war or disease. I had no part at all in 9/11 or the innocent civilians getting killed in the Middle East. [/quote]

Come on, you know what I meant by that. Your own personal decisions are what has shaped you personally. You're not Shepard; people like us have no say in the grander scheme of things.

[quote]Collider wrote...

considering I don't believe in god...I'm not. But if the Biblical God exists, then he created this world knowing that the world would turn out as it did. He's fully at fault for it. He could have created the world differently.[/quote]

If you think the world is broken, that is. I personally don't see anything wrong with how it's turned out. Sure, its had its share of clusterf**** but life isn't unbearable.