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[mjboldy]

Max of 400 points. To me, this will be about the same length as Return to Ostagar (maybe a bit longer and a bit more fun) and RtO IMO seemed overpriced so 400 points seems about right.

[PwrGetter]

I'd pay $10.

[EternalWolfe]

I'll wait till others have paid and downloaded it, listen to their thoughts, listen to official reviews, listen to whatever information I can learn(estimated time, quality factor, ect), then decide if Kasumi is worth it. If she's worth 10, I'll pay 10. If she's worth 5, I'll pay 5. If she's ****, I'll pay nothing.



Just like I do with real games - I like to look at reviews, talk to people who've played it, and(if possible) try a demo of it. Then I decide if its worth it, or if I might wait for the price to drop to a point where it is.



But I'm weird like that.

[masterthehero]

EternalWolfe wrote...

I'll wait till others have paid and downloaded it, listen to their thoughts, listen to official reviews, listen to whatever information I can learn(estimated time, quality factor, ect), then decide if Kasumi is worth it. If she's worth 10, I'll pay 10. If she's worth 5, I'll pay 5. If she's ****, I'll pay nothing.

Just like I do with real games - I like to look at reviews, talk to people who've played it, and(if possible) try a demo of it. Then I decide if its worth it, or if I might wait for the price to drop to a point where it is.

But I'm weird like that.

Nothing weird about it, when money is on the line.  Even if it's a small amount, no one wants to lose money on something they will hate.  For instance, I completely ignored the Pinnacle station DLC and I am a die hard Mass Effect fan, bought the collector's edition and everything.  But there was no way I was going to pay money to download an arena.  I bought bringing down the sky but I am not paying for any arena's ever.  Waiting for the review was the best decision I made because I would have been furious.

[EternalWolfe]

masterthehero wrote...

EternalWolfe wrote...

I'll wait till others have paid and downloaded it, listen to their thoughts, listen to official reviews, listen to whatever information I can learn(estimated time, quality factor, ect), then decide if Kasumi is worth it. If she's worth 10, I'll pay 10. If she's worth 5, I'll pay 5. If she's ****, I'll pay nothing.

Just like I do with real games - I like to look at reviews, talk to people who've played it, and(if possible) try a demo of it. Then I decide if its worth it, or if I might wait for the price to drop to a point where it is.

But I'm weird like that.

Nothing weird about it, when money is on the line.  Even if it's a small amount, no one wants to lose money on something they will hate.  For instance, I completely ignored the Pinnacle station DLC and I am a die hard Mass Effect fan, bought the collector's edition and everything.  But there was no way I was going to pay money to download an arena.  I bought bringing down the sky but I am not paying for any arena's ever.  Waiting for the review was the best decision I made because I would have been furious.

The 'weird' part was meant to be light sarcasm.

I did download Pinnacle Station, more the pity.  It wasn't bad, but it certianly wasn't worth the price - too little real content, good if you like arenas, i suppose.  BDTS was far, far better in quality and content, definitly worth it.

I'd like to add something else to the thread - I would put my price at $5, assuming Kasumi is somewhere about the quality and intrest of Shale from DA:O(I got mine for free with new, but 15$ was WAY over the line).

Depending on various factors, that might go up to 7-8(for an high quality character that fits into the game naturally, with a good amount of content with it) and as far down as 3 or less(Zaeed might be worth 3, although maybe only 2, imo.  Lack of actual conversation+only one mission).

Of course, my preffered price?  Free.

[Bryy_Miller]

casedawgz wrote...

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

Nothing. Kasumi should have been a part of the Cerberus Network. From what I understand it's 1.5 hours of playtime and adds almost nothing to the "end-game" benefits. Meaning she has no impact on the game state.

I might get the DLC regardless but it really depends on how much it is. 5$ is about as much as I would be willing to fork over.

Another thing that pisses me off is that they offer up another SMG in this DLC when that should be a free DLC separate from this content. BioWare is completely aware that SMGs and Pistols are lacking in variety and this is a bi***slap to the quads.

I am 100% P.O.ed at BioWare.

They need to get a clue from Gearbox Software's Borderlands latest DLC SAoGK. A full on expansion for 10$.

But its just as much of a boring grind as the rest of Borderlands.

Exactly. Borderlands is a four-player MMO.

[wikkedjoker]

I would be willing to pay for it, IF it was cheaper though the Cerberus's Network.

Say 800 in the market place in 400 on the network. You know for people who bought the game new.  


I know that sound stupid but, eh.

[blasto lives]

Heres's my two cents. There was a poll on another thread asking what the max people would pay for the Kasumi DLC - the choices were Free/5/10/15/anything. The results suggested that only 36% of people would buy the DLC if it cost more than $5. 79% of people would buy it if it were $5 or less. Now, the sample size is pretty small - just a couple hundred votes - but I'm curious to see how the sales numbers play out.
Bioware should be able to approximate the maximum number of potential customers using downloads of the arc projector (or, even better, the hammerhead). My simplistic calculations suggest:
Price        Percent Purchase         Gross per "interested ME2 player"
$5             79                                     $3.95
$7             36                                     $2.52
*$7           57*                                    $4.06
$10           36                                     $3.60
*The second calc for $7 is what would happen if half of the people who claimed $5 was their limit break down and buy it anyway.

Kind of interesting. I'm in the $5 bloc, and based on what we know at the moment I value the DLC at $3. IF the poll is representative, and IF the $5 bloc holds firm, they would lose a lot of gross sales if it costs more than 400pts. It all depends on how many customers they lose by bumping the price from 5 to 7. They will lose me... Very interested to see how the poll stands up to reality, the internal projections, or the sales numbers from other DLC.

Modifié par blasto lives, 13 mars 2010 - 09:50 .

[Kalfear]

blasto lives wrote...

Heres's my two cents. There was a poll on another thread asking what the max people would pay for the Kasumi DLC - the choices were Free/5/10/15/anything. The results suggested that only 36% of people would buy the DLC if it cost more than $5. 79% of people would buy it if it were $5 or less. Now, the sample size is pretty small - just a couple hundred votes - but I'm curious to see how the sales numbers play out.
Bioware should be able to approximate the maximum number of potential customers using downloads of the arc projector (or, even better, the hammerhead). My simplistic calculations suggest:
Price        Percent Purchase         Gross per "interested ME2 player"
$5             79                                     $3.95
$7             36                                     $2.52
*$7           57*                                    $4.06
$10           36                                     $3.60
*The second calc for $7 is what would happen if half of the people who claimed $5 was their limit break down and buy it anyway.

Kind of interesting. I'm in the $5 bloc, and based on what we know at the moment I value the DLC at $3. IF the poll is representative, and IF the $5 bloc holds firm, they would lose a lot of gross sales if it costs more than 400pts. It all depends on how many customers they lose by bumping the price from 5 to 7. They will lose me... Very interested to see how the poll stands up to reality, the internal projections, or the sales numbers from other DLC.

I almost always wish Bioware well but I really hope your right and they do miss out on ALOT of sale because they being greedy.

In the DA:O forums there is a number of threads complaining about cost= quality of DLC and Bioware over there said (almost direct quote) "As long as people are willing to pay $5.00-$7.00 for 40 minutes of content, thats what were going to deliver to them."

I gotta say, after reading that I have taken a hardline stance on Bioware DLC and thats stance has carried over to Mass Effect as well.

Your right, they say there is 1-1.5 hours of content so at the VERY ABSOLUTE MOST this DLC is worth $2.00-$3.00. Im leaning to the $2.00 value as Bioware greatly over estimates its playable time in all its products (which tells me the reported 1 hour probably more correct) and this is not some grand interactive character. I could accept $2.00/hour if we paying for a fully voiced and interactive character thats a potential love interest and has its own cut screens but from all reports, thats not what we getting so the extra $1/hour probably not required in development costs.

It pains me to see so many lemmings just blindly accept this $7.00 price tag.

I been a fan of Bioware longer then most here been alive but some times you still need to stand up to those you wish nothing but the best for because they simply have it wrong.

Dont spend $7.00, send a message that Bioware and EA have a responcibility to us if they want our money!

$1.00-$2.00 /hour of content. Its fair, its reasonable, and its just!

[GothamLord]

You are not paying for only 1 - 1/2 hrs of content. The loyalty mission is that yes, but the character is useable through the whole game, provides a new loyalty power. As well as a new SMG weapon. This has nothing to do with being a "lemming" but I get tired for people moaning about the price tag and using incorrect basis.

[Gocad]

I'd be in for ~500 BP. To be honest, I'm not really thrilled about another human squad member, but then again I find Zaeed to be more fun than Jacob and Miranda. ..

[Fraevar]

Given the length and comparing it to Dragon Age: Origins' "Return to Ostagar", I'd be really put off if they charged much beyond $7 USD for it. It's one sidemission and one new gun.

[GothamLord]

Well the one article I've seen and the mass effect wiki have it pegged at 560points. So its around $7

[Pocketgb]

Bare minimum? $5. Understandable range? $7-8. Definitely no? $10.

[Weiser_Cain]

How about the 60 bucks for the game and word of mouth hype for the game I've already given them?

[GothamLord]

Word of mouth means nothing unless you can guarantee sales of the game new.

[Must have name]

Only if it was £2 or under, and I can't see their release point being much under £3.50.



Frankly, i've never bought DLC before because most of it are just small, almost meaningless bits of content whose price doesn't warrant it. Ofcourse, if it really was a meaningful bit of content, i'd pay a bit more.

[GreenSoda]

-It's worth 2-3 $ to me
-Maximum I'd be willing to pay is 5 $
-...so it probably will cost 7$

Modifié par GreenSoda, 13 mars 2010 - 11:55 .

[Selvec_Darkon]

I'm not willing to pay for it at all.

Why?

Because I'm a student who has no money, no job and can't afford to pay for content that was originally cut from the game and is now being released in an attempt to promote legitmite sales over piracy.

Good buisness method in theory, but it fails when you take out content from the finished product to put it into action.

[Gaddmeister]

Selvec_Darkon wrote...

I'm not willing to pay for it at all.

Why?

Because I'm a student who has no money, no job and can't afford to pay for content that was originally cut from the game and is now being released in an attempt to promote legitmite sales over piracy.

Good buisness method in theory, but it fails when you take out content from the finished product to put it into action.

Well, the reason is not to "promote legitmite sales over piracy" because you can find pirated dlc for any game. They release free dlc through the CN to promote new game sales over used game sales. Purchasable dlc is released to make more money. At some point Bioware/EA must decide where to draw the line for what can be in the core game, you know production cost and all that stuff. They can then choose to not release anything more, or they can continue to polish content and release it later.

[ShepardOsiris]

I'll say right away that I love Mass Effect and Bioware, and more likely than not, I'll end up getting this DLC, but I'm still angry that now we are supposed to pay for Kasumi. I'm not one of those "All DLC should be free" people, far from it, I'm more than willing to pay for good content. My issue is, that they put out Zaeed and gave it to us for free. Now Kasumi is essentially an identical amount of content and quality, and now I'm supposed to pay for it?



If your going to sell it for a profit, then atleast make it worth while, flesh out the dialogue so you can have conversations with her throughout the game like you can all other characters except Zaeed. Make it a good 3 - 4 hours of content instead of an hour or so, and give us some additional armor pieces and a few more weapons along the pistols and Sniper Rifle catagories and I don't think anyone would mind paying for the DLC. But to pay 5 or 10 dollars for 1 hour long mission, a new SMG, a flashbang loyalty power which sounds lame, and a character you can't ever get much information out of or have a meaningful conversation with is asking a lot of people.



My real problem is how they present it to us, they have taken this approach now with Dragon Age and now Mass Effect 2, of talking on and on about how they will have a steady steam of great content and how they are going to provide us with a lot of free stuff. For the most part they keep their word, but they reach a certain point, and then boom, they stick in the knife and twist it hard.



Once they start charging for content it's never reasonable, it's always way overpriced, and you can't expect fans to not become upset about that. I know Bioware are out to make a profit, as they should be and as they deserve to, but be reasonable to your fans.



Dragon Age is a perfect example of this, after Awakening is released next week, the total cost of all available pay DLC will be about 60 dollars or the cost of the entire original game, but if you add up all the DLC both the stuff you have to pay for and all the free stuff they gave us, it's total playtime and content is maybe around a quarter or so of the total content available in the main game.



Now needing to make a profit is one thing, but don't anyone sit there and try and tell me that that's good gaming value to the customer. We are totally getting screwed over in the long run when it comes to DLC.



So I'm just saying you people that sit there and say how it's perfectly OK for Bioware to start charging for stuff that's identical in quality and quantity as stuff they gave us for free already, and how your willing to pay 10 or 15 dollars for it, maybe you want to look at the math again. I'm sorry but if your willing to pay 10 to 15 bucks for an hour or so of content, a single gun and a power and a character you can't coverse with, you either are complete idiots, have no sense of money, or you don't pay for anything yourself. Whichever of those catagories you fall into, you are definately part of the problem.



I just don't see why everything has to be in 5 or 10 dollar amounts. I guess because stupid people will pay that much without argument. Why can't something be 3 dollars if it's worth 3 dollars? I think people wouldn't mind the stuff so much if it was just priced more reasonably. Burning up a whole 1600 point MS point card you payed $20 for just to get a couple brief missions, a wallpaper and a t shirt for your avatar is just plain wrong.

[Iueno]

If she's anything like Zaeed I'm only paying 4 dollars, tops. I mean, yeah, sure, great to have another on board, but apparently she's not a real 'character', just a placeholder and a gun when her mission's over. And more weapons and powers? Well yay, but frankly I didn't jump on the wagon with all the pre-order-items and weapons and I don't see more items as an incentive in itself. I'll gladly pay for a richer experience, but having a marginally different way of putting slugs in a collector's brain isn't that. A new, deep character certainly would be. Oh well

[Spectre_Moncy]

5 bucks max.

[GiroX-]

I've always been of the mindset that DLC should be priced about the same as movie tickets. If I get two hours of entertainment out of it, I'll pay $8.

Thats a good mindset to use.

But Idk if you guys were into L4D1 for 360, they tried to release their DLC for free, but Microsoft makes them have a price to put the DLC up for download. It sucks, but it necessary.

Not to mention, that you would be helping a great game company like BioWare and encourage them to release more DLC.

And lets get real here, I think everyone here can afford $5-$8...

Modifié par GiroX-, 13 mars 2010 - 02:55 .

[javierabegazo]

...What if she happened to be fully voiced like the rest of the squadmates, i.e. conversation enabled....?