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[errant_knight]

When I chose this boon, Alistair agreed, suggested starting with a statue, but added that we'd start doing research into the darkspawn because we'd be fighting them again here and with the dwarves. I don't remember him saying the research part, or implying that we wouldn't be leaving the burden of fighting the darkspawn to the dwarves this time. Does he always say that? I'm fairly certain that Anora didn't, the one time I made her queen (ew, ew, ew!). Last couple of playthroughs, I chose different boons--it's possible that I didn't actually choose the warden boon with Alistair, I suppose....

[Thor Rand Al]

errant_knight wrote...

When I chose this boon, Alistair agreed, suggested starting with a statue, but added that we'd start doing research into the darkspawn because we'd be fighting them again here and with the dwarves. I don't remember him saying the research part, or implying that we wouldn't be leaving the burden of fighting the darkspawn to the dwarves this time. Does he always say that? I'm fairly certain that Anora didn't, the one time I made her queen (ew, ew, ew!). Last couple of playthroughs, I chose different boons--it's possible that I didn't actually choose the warden boon with Alistair, I suppose....

Yes he basically says that everytime.  N I believe Anora says the same thing to, well along those lines anyways.  I've always picked that stupid boon too lmao.  1 of these times I've so got to choose something different but by the time I'm done playing the game my pc has finally acknowledged he/she is a warden. 

[errant_knight]

I've tried some of the others, but they aren't very good. Saying you need nothing, or that you'll have to think about it seems a bit churlish given that Alistair is publically offering you an engagement present (although he doesn't seem to mind). Serving Fereldan, while I haven't tried it when engaged, might still get you the chancellorship, which would just be greedy--and also deprives Bann Tegan of his promotion. I never want any more revenge on the Howes since Thomas knew nothing about it, and his wife probably didn't either. Hoew didn't strike me as a guy who'd let anyone else in his family have a say.... That leaves the statue.



This time I got an ending where we both stayed in Denerim except for when we went to put up a monument to Duncan at his home together. That was nice.

[Sarah1281]

He lets you have a boon for the other origins stories, too, just obviously not for an engagement present. Most of the optons are self-serving but the origin specific ones aren't so much. The Dalish option of givng them a home is worthless because that happens anyway. With a mage you can request letting them govern themselves, with the dwarves you can ask for aid against the darkspawn (although if you picked Harrowmont you might as well not bother beause he won't let them help), and with the city elf you or Shianni can become the Bann of the Alienage (which isn't self-serving because they really need a voice so people don't think it's okay to start selling them or making them scapegoats again).



The wardens always get Howe's and no matter what you do and I can't imagine that people are going to immediately ignore the darkspawn with Denerim destroyed, so I think the statue might be the only real difference if you pick that.

[errant_knight]

Well, the warden kills Howe, but doesn't go after the whole family. That's not a boon I'd want.

I knew about the boons in the other origins. Those have some better options (ignoring the blatantly selfish ones), because I don't think anyone is going to forget about the wardens anytime soon. I suppose the research into the darkspawn might not happen if you don't choose that boon.

[Gill Kaiser]

You can ask for a title and riches, and Alistair makes you the Teyrn/Teyrna of Gwaren... even if you're already the Queen. classic.

[Xandurpein]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

You can ask for a title and riches, and Alistair makes you the Teyrn/Teyrna of Gwaren... even if you're already the Queen. classic.

It's kind of interesting that Alistair can appear to be a little annoyed if his Queen asks to be Teyrna of Gwaren too, but Anora seems to think that it's apropriate to make her husband Teyrn of Gwaren, even if I would have thought those lands where technically her inheritance...

[Gilsa]

I wonder if some of those boons are null and void (i.e. just going through the scripted motions). I still get offered a boon even when I've used it up to spare Alistair. I don't get a text card when I try to get greedy with a second boon so that's how I know it ain't happening anyway. =p



I stopped picking the Grey Warden boon after a while because it seemed like they were going to be remembered anyway. I didn't compare the differences though. Now I'm left pondering over this, too.

[Vuokseniska]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

You can ask for a title and riches, and Alistair makes you the Teyrn/Teyrna of Gwaren... even if you're already the Queen. classic.

you don't become the queen just a consort... so basically no title to the throne and a playmate. so the teyrn title is handy

[Xandurpein]

Vuokseniska wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

You can ask for a title and riches, and Alistair makes you the Teyrn/Teyrna of Gwaren... even if you're already the Queen. classic.

you don't become the queen just a consort... so basically no title to the throne and a playmate. so the teyrn title is handy

Teyrn/Teyrna basically also means that you are independantly wealthy and aren't dependant on your spouse's good will for money to spend. Very handy I think.

Modifié par Xandurpein, 12 mars 2010 - 01:07 .

[Sarah1281]

Well, the warden kills Howe, but doesn't go after the whole family. That's not a boon I'd want.

The boon doesn't order the execution of Howe's family, it just takes his land. Which happens irregardles.

[errant_knight]

Ah! I thought heads would roll. Never chose it myself.... So, that's a useless boon then, huh?

[errant_knight]

Xandurpein wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

You can ask for a title and riches, and Alistair makes you the Teyrn/Teyrna of Gwaren... even if you're already the Queen. classic.

It's kind of interesting that Alistair can appear to be a little annoyed if his Queen asks to be Teyrna of Gwaren too, but Anora seems to think that it's apropriate to make her husband Teyrn of Gwaren, even if I would have thought those lands where technically her inheritance...

Heh, he should be annoyed. That's just greedy, and you can't possible administer to the lands properly. Queen, Warden Commander, leader of the armies, and Teyrna? He'd have to wonder what kind of power hungry so-and-so he was marrying.

I don't think you need the money. You're the consort and a Cousland. You have access to all the money you could possibly need already.

Anora sees everything in terms of power and status. I'm sure she'd think her husband was the same.

Modifié par errant_knight, 12 mars 2010 - 04:51 .

[highcastle]

errant_knight wrote...

Ah! I thought heads would roll. Never chose it myself.... So, that's a useless boon then, huh?

Not entirely useless. It also strips Howe's heirs of any power, making it explicitly clear they have no status any longer. I only asked for this once, though, as it seemed like overkill, especially given that Howe's children weren't involved in his treachery (supposedly) and doing this will likely just court vengeance from them. If my Warden's become friends with Al, he usually stays on as chancellor (this fits with my ambitious wardens, too). Otherwise, if my warden's going to become Warden Commander, I ask for the warden's boon.

[Gill Kaiser]

I'm coming up to the Landsmeet on my FHN game, and I'm planning to marry Alistair and become Queen. I'm not sure which boon would be most appropriate to choose... on my last playthrough it was easier because I was a mage and I wanted to free the Circle from Chantry rule, while I went off to find Morrigan.

This time I'll be sticking around in Denerim for the foreseeable future along with my husband, the King, so I'll need something to do. I'm tempted to become the Teyrna of Gwaren, but if Alistair really gets annoyed by that choice, I might skip it.

I'd never punish Howe's family for revenge. That makes you as bad as him.

[errant_knight]

He approves of the warden thing and it's not a bad idea after all. There really aren't any other choices that aren't a tad jerky for the HN.

[Wolfaura]

I chose the one for my hnf that says I only wish to continue to support the crown. Alistair seems a bit amused by that and I remember he says something about aren't you going to be my queen so you're supporting the crown anyway. Or something like that.

[errant_knight]

Wolfaura wrote...

I chose the one for my hnf that says I only wish to continue to support the crown. Alistair seems a bit amused by that and I remember he says something about aren't you going to be my queen so you're supporting the crown anyway. Or something like that.

Heh, you just asked him to make you Chancellor, in effect. I can see him finding that amusing. I'll have to try that sometime. I enjoy amused Alistair.

[Rhinna]

with my hnf, I chose to get Highever back - it was in my family after all.

[errant_knight]

What do you mean? It's not lost. Fergus returns there right after the celebration to put things to rights--he's the heir, after all, and asks you to come by as soon as you can.

If you ask for lands and title, it's not Highever that you get. I don't know for sure, but I think it's Loghain's lands.

Modifié par errant_knight, 14 mars 2010 - 05:39 .

[rak72]

It seems that if you choose to help rebuild the GW's, Ali won't disappear to Wysp Fort. He'll just go build Duncan's tomb at some point. If you pick staying in town with him , he'll go to WF.

[rak72]

I have a very bad feeling about Wysp Fort

[sylvanaerie]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I'm coming up to the Landsmeet on my FHN game, and I'm planning to marry Alistair and become Queen. I'm not sure which boon would be most appropriate to choose... on my last playthrough it was easier because I was a mage and I wanted to free the Circle from Chantry rule, while I went off to find Morrigan.
This time I'll be sticking around in Denerim for the foreseeable future along with my husband, the King, so I'll need something to do. I'm tempted to become the Teyrna of Gwaren, but if Alistair really gets annoyed by that choice, I might skip it.
I'd never punish Howe's family for revenge. That makes you as bad as him.

He doesn't get annoyed.  My HNF took great delight in not only marrying Al but in taking Gwaren from the MacTirs as well.  (She was a little on the vengeful side and was still pissed at Loghain and Anora for everything they did). Plus she was ambitious and thought NOW the Couslands have BOTH Highever AND Gwaren.  Other characters were a little more forgiving and less rigid. My Dalish put Anora on the throne (Al didn't want it) and only asked for land for her people.  It kind of touched me when Anora asks if you will be staying in Denerim and you tell her "I don't know" (on my Dalish) she actually looked a little sad.

[errant_knight]

rak72 wrote...

It seems that if you choose to help rebuild the GW's, Ali won't disappear to Wysp Fort. He'll just go build Duncan's tomb at some point. If you pick staying in town with him , he'll go to WF.

I'm not sure what the trigger is for that fairly scary trip to the fortress all by his lonesome. I didn't have it this time through. I was marrying Alistair and neither one of us went anywhere except when we both went to build Duncan's monument together. Whew!

[Wolfaura]

I think I might try some other of the choices to see what happens too.

Didn't realise supporting the crown was to become chancellor. I just wanted to choose an option that didn't seem greedy or selfish. I thought hmmm...supporting the crown means helping you out Alistair as best as I can as I know you hate all this formal stuff.



Can't remember what I chose for the 2nd but I think it was to stay in Denerim? And he went off to the fort which I didn't like. So I think I'll see if helping the grey wardens makes him not go off.