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[heretica]

Did you ever have problems at work? With friends/family/partner? Because they don't understand your love for videogames or internet?

Is it *worse* if you are a female (i'm a female)? Or female gamers are better portrayed by society just because they are females? Why is it okay or *normal* to go out and get smashed, do drugs.. but on the other hand playing videogames makes you a weirdo? Is this a cliché? 

Discuss  

[Mr.Skar]

Some people look at you weird, but it isn't as bad as it used to be. Probably because games have changed drastically in looks and playability. I mean, EVERYONE has played a video game at some point. It's still the "hobby for shut ins and damaged people" but only if you play a certain genre and/or how much time you spend playing whatever game it is you play.

[heretica]

A friend of mine told me once that he has a mate and who is ashamed to confess his love for videogames around females. I was like "wow" (no pun intended, he plays wow) because it's serious business when you think women are going to run away from you if you play computer games.
I've met a lot of creepy guys during the years i've been around but none of them were creepy because they were gamers. Basically they were like that because apparently i have a real bad taste for men but that's another story.

It's funny because I have some frends who play online games and they act as females to get resources from other men. Which i find immensely amusing and ironic.
I had the opposite thing happening to me, everyone thought I am a man because of the way i swear when i rage.  
 

[Lord Thing]

I'm studying Games Technologies at uni, so around there the few people in IT who don't game are the weird ones, lol.

However, outside of uni, whenever I tell someone I'm going for a job in the Games Industry I often get a polite amount of feigned interest and then a, "But if this falls through, your degree will still help you get a real job won't it?", to which I reply "Yeah, I'll still have all the skills required to get into a different field of IT.".

What I don't add is that if I do end up in a different field, it will only be to support myself while I make indie games

[superimposed]

Oh, gamers can be creepy.



Seen those threads around here? Those love interest threads for Mass Effect 2?

As for a general comment, no. Saying you play video games and that you enjoy it isn't shunned. Saying that you're a "gamer" - as in, OMG VIDEO GAEM MUST HAEV NAO!!! - that's a little weird.

[AntiChri5]

Depends how fanatic you are with it. Yes i game and would describe myself as a gamer but i have many other interests.

[Busomjack]

I think people who game as a substitute for a social life *cough* World of Warcraft *cough* come across as fairly weird people.

Otherwise, gaming is just a leisure activity. No different from watching sitcoms, or reading a book really.

[heretica]

Busomjack wrote...

I think people who game as a substitute for a social life *cough* World of Warcraft *cough* come across as fairly weird people.
Otherwise, gaming is just a leisure activity. No different from watching sitcoms, or reading a book really.

What's your defition of "social life"? Even if you play an online game, or participate in an online comunity, isn't that considered as socializing? Why should be spending time with physical people the only way to socialize? As technology progress and we include internet in our everyday life, changes are made. Relationships between people change. And i'm glad it's that way... 

[Busomjack]

Catt128 wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

I think people who game as a substitute for a social life *cough* World of Warcraft *cough* come across as fairly weird people.
Otherwise, gaming is just a leisure activity. No different from watching sitcoms, or reading a book really.

What's your defition of "social life"? Even if you play an online game, or participate in an online comunity, isn't that considered as socializing? Why should be spending time with physical people the only way to socialize? As technology progress and we include internet in our everyday life, changes are made. Relationships between people change. And i'm glad it's that way... 

Because a social life should include doing activities with people you know well that aren't limited to sitting around Ogrimmar with your thumb up your ass.
If part of your social life is gaming with your friends, thats cool.  If that is all your social life consist of however, then you've got a problem.

[heretica]

Busomjack wrote...

Catt128 wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

I think people who game as a substitute for a social life *cough* World of Warcraft *cough* come across as fairly weird people.
Otherwise, gaming is just a leisure activity. No different from watching sitcoms, or reading a book really.

What's your defition of "social life"? Even if you play an online game, or participate in an online comunity, isn't that considered as socializing? Why should be spending time with physical people the only way to socialize? As technology progress and we include internet in our everyday life, changes are made. Relationships between people change. And i'm glad it's that way... 

Because a social life should include doing activities with people you know well that aren't limited to sitting around Ogrimmar with your thumb up your ass.
If part of your social life is gaming with your friends, thats cool.  If that is all your social life consist of however, then you've got a problem.

Why do a person has a problem in case that she/he chose to play games instead of going out with people? It's free time they spend doing the things they like. As long as they are hapy and they don't harm anyone with it I don't think why would anyone have a problem.

Going out with friends or staying at home playing video games are two perfectly fine choices in my opinion. 

[FlintlockJazz]

Around most people its fine, however there are some people for whom gaming is weird and if you do it then you must be weird, but most of the time those people are quite up themselves as well, so no great loss. Once the glorious revolution occurs and I am ascended to my rightful place as Overlord of the Nether Realms and Beyond I shall unleash my righteous anger on people like that, so it will all be solved soon anyway... *cue evil cackling*

[FlintlockJazz]

Catt128 wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

Catt128 wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

I think people who game as a substitute for a social life *cough* World of Warcraft *cough* come across as fairly weird people.
Otherwise, gaming is just a leisure activity. No different from watching sitcoms, or reading a book really.

What's your defition of "social life"? Even if you play an online game, or participate in an online comunity, isn't that considered as socializing? Why should be spending time with physical people the only way to socialize? As technology progress and we include internet in our everyday life, changes are made. Relationships between people change. And i'm glad it's that way... 

Because a social life should include doing activities with people you know well that aren't limited to sitting around Ogrimmar with your thumb up your ass.
If part of your social life is gaming with your friends, thats cool.  If that is all your social life consist of however, then you've got a problem.

Why do a person has a problem in case that she/he chose to play games instead of going out with people? It's free time they spend doing the things they like. As long as they are hapy and they don't harm anyone with it I don't think why would anyone have a problem.

Going out with friends or staying at home playing video games are two perfectly fine choices in my opinion. 

I agree.  In fact, most of the truly disturbing people are the ones who spend all their time going out, especially when they are those serious sexual predator types.  And puking up in the street is not my idea of a regular fun time.

[Busomjack]

Catt128 wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

Catt128 wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

I think people who game as a substitute for a social life *cough* World of Warcraft *cough* come across as fairly weird people.
Otherwise, gaming is just a leisure activity. No different from watching sitcoms, or reading a book really.

What's your defition of "social life"? Even if you play an online game, or participate in an online comunity, isn't that considered as socializing? Why should be spending time with physical people the only way to socialize? As technology progress and we include internet in our everyday life, changes are made. Relationships between people change. And i'm glad it's that way... 

Because a social life should include doing activities with people you know well that aren't limited to sitting around Ogrimmar with your thumb up your ass.
If part of your social life is gaming with your friends, thats cool.  If that is all your social life consist of however, then you've got a problem.

Why do a person has a problem in case that she/he chose to play games instead of going out with people? It's free time they spend doing the things they like. As long as they are hapy and they don't harm anyone with it I don't think why would anyone have a problem.

Going out with friends or staying at home playing video games are two perfectly fine choices in my opinion. 

Because having a social life that centers around a single actviity generally denotes a shallow personality which makes someone difficult to like.
To be fair, this isn't limited to people who are addicted to MMORPGs.  My ex-girlfriend only interest was "goin clubbin'"
Her shallow personality is one of the reasons we broke up.  Most people just don't like people whose social hobbies are so limited.

Modifié par Busomjack, 12 mars 2010 - 09:55 .

[heretica]

Busomjack: You have a point there. Never thought about it that way.

[Druss99]

FlintlockJazz wrote...

Catt128 wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

Catt128 wrote...

Busomjack wrote...

I think people who game as a substitute for a social life *cough* World of Warcraft *cough* come across as fairly weird people.
Otherwise, gaming is just a leisure activity. No different from watching sitcoms, or reading a book really.

What's your defition of "social life"? Even if you play an online game, or participate in an online comunity, isn't that considered as socializing? Why should be spending time with physical people the only way to socialize? As technology progress and we include internet in our everyday life, changes are made. Relationships between people change. And i'm glad it's that way... 

Because a social life should include doing activities with people you know well that aren't limited to sitting around Ogrimmar with your thumb up your ass.
If part of your social life is gaming with your friends, thats cool.  If that is all your social life consist of however, then you've got a problem.

Why do a person has a problem in case that she/he chose to play games instead of going out with people? It's free time they spend doing the things they like. As long as they are hapy and they don't harm anyone with it I don't think why would anyone have a problem.

Going out with friends or staying at home playing video games are two perfectly fine choices in my opinion. 

I agree.  In fact, most of the truly disturbing people are the ones who spend all their time going out, especially when they are those serious sexual predator types.  And puking up in the street is not my idea of a regular fun time.

I agree with this, I got called sad in a bar by my mate one night because the reason I wouldnt go out the following week was that I had a game pre-ordered and couldnt afford both. Two minutes later he tried to convince two women that I was a boxer and he was my manager, before trying to pull a 63 year old. At that point I realised who the sad one was and havent been out with the clown since.

[Dark Lilith]

Catt128 wrote...

Did you ever have problems at work? With friends/family/partner? Because they don't understand your love for videogames or internet?

Is it *worse* if you are a female (i'm a female)? Or female gamers are better portrayed by society just because they are females? Why is it okay or *normal* to go out and get smashed, do drugs.. but on the other hand playing videogames makes you a weirdo? Is this a cliché? 

Discuss  

Being a female also,I'm proud to be a gamer.I don't see why a stigma should be placed on those that game. I do on occassion drink and get a bit buzzed,never falling down drunk and I don't use drugs for any purpose unless perscribed by my Doctor. Personally I care less what others think of me because no one has the right to judge another human being for any reason at all on any issue.We as a people need to get past this labeling thing and allow a person to be themselves and not fit a prescribed mold as to what society thinks others should be.I'm unique and will always be proud of my uniqueness.

[Panderfringe]

I don't know why anyone would want to openly call themselves a gamer. It's sort of like admitting to the world you're a socially awkward, unhygienic loser. May or may not actually be the case, but that's what it comes out to.



As for me, I personally prefer to identify myself with something more substantial.

[Dark Lilith]

Panderfringe wrote...

I don't know why anyone would want to openly call themselves a gamer. It's sort of like admitting to the world you're a socially awkward, unhygienic loser. May or may not actually be the case, but that's what it comes out to.

As for me, I personally prefer to identify myself with something more substantial.

I'm far from being unhygenic and far from being a loser.I'll be more than happy to compare my portfolio to yours anyday!
I play for relaxation and you now fit a labeler,see how correct my response was!

[Panderfringe]

Dark Lilith wrote...

Panderfringe wrote...

I don't know why anyone would want to openly call themselves a gamer. It's sort of like admitting to the world you're a socially awkward, unhygienic loser. May or may not actually be the case, but that's what it comes out to.

As for me, I personally prefer to identify myself with something more substantial.

I'm far from being unhygenic and far from being a loser.I'll be more than happy to compare my portfolio to yours anyday!
I play for relaxation and you now fit a labeler,see how correct my response was!

Like I said, may or may not be the case.

But I can guarantee you the majority of people's thoughts when you tell them you're a gamer are something along the lines of "ew, do you shower?" Whether you do or not is besides the point. That's the perception. SO why not just not identify as a gamer?

[Dark Lilith]

Panderfringe wrote...

Dark Lilith wrote...

Panderfringe wrote...

I don't know why anyone would want to openly call themselves a gamer. It's sort of like admitting to the world you're a socially awkward, unhygienic loser. May or may not actually be the case, but that's what it comes out to.

As for me, I personally prefer to identify myself with something more substantial.

I'm far from being unhygenic and far from being a loser.I'll be more than happy to compare my portfolio to yours anyday!
I play for relaxation and you now fit a labeler,see how correct my response was!

Like I said, may or may not be the case.

But I can guarantee you the majority of people's thoughts when you tell them you're a gamer are something along the lines of "ew, do you shower?" Whether you do or not is besides the point. That's the perception. SO why not just not identify as a gamer?

Stand for something or stand for nothing at all.I prefer to stand tall and not cower in the face of adversity

[Panderfringe]

Dark Lilith wrote...

Panderfringe wrote...

Dark Lilith wrote...

Panderfringe wrote...

I don't know why anyone would want to openly call themselves a gamer. It's sort of like admitting to the world you're a socially awkward, unhygienic loser. May or may not actually be the case, but that's what it comes out to.

As for me, I personally prefer to identify myself with something more substantial.

I'm far from being unhygenic and far from being a loser.I'll be more than happy to compare my portfolio to yours anyday!
I play for relaxation and you now fit a labeler,see how correct my response was!

Like I said, may or may not be the case.

But I can guarantee you the majority of people's thoughts when you tell them you're a gamer are something along the lines of "ew, do you shower?" Whether you do or not is besides the point. That's the perception. SO why not just not identify as a gamer?

Stand for something or stand for nothing at all.I prefer to stand tall and not cower in the face of adversity

Nice rhetoric. About video games.

This is kind of what I mean. Why do you feel the need to "defend" an entertainment medium? It's... kind of pathetic.

[Dark Lilith]

Panderfringe wrote...

Dark Lilith wrote...

Panderfringe wrote...

Dark Lilith wrote...

Panderfringe wrote...

I don't know why anyone would want to openly call themselves a gamer. It's sort of like admitting to the world you're a socially awkward, unhygienic loser. May or may not actually be the case, but that's what it comes out to.

As for me, I personally prefer to identify myself with something more substantial.

I'm far from being unhygenic and far from being a loser.I'll be more than happy to compare my portfolio to yours anyday!
I play for relaxation and you now fit a labeler,see how correct my response was!

Like I said, may or may not be the case.

But I can guarantee you the majority of people's thoughts when you tell them you're a gamer are something along the lines of "ew, do you shower?" Whether you do or not is besides the point. That's the perception. SO why not just not identify as a gamer?

Stand for something or stand for nothing at all.I prefer to stand tall and not cower in the face of adversity

Nice rhetoric. About video games.

This is kind of what I mean. Why do you feel the need to "defend" an entertainment medium? It's... kind of pathetic.

I just get tired of people placing labels on others.What does it accomplish? In the end it creates only hurt and makes others feel inadequate.Why the need to make yourself look superior when we all bleed the same red blood.

[AshedMan]

I'm a teacher and most of my coworkers have nothing but disdain for games. They think games are destroying the minds of their young students, blah blah. I kind of keep my gaming habits at a low profile. The teacher who has his class next to mine is also a gamer, so we kind of stick together at staff meetings and are always chatting in the morning about what we did in DA:O or ME2 the night before. It's pretty funny when we're having a conversation about screwing Miranda or blowing up such-and-such facility and then another teacher walks in the room. We both kind of just halt the conversation and act like nothing was going on.

[Jonp382]

I don't see a problem with telling anyone I play games, but I'll only present games like Braid, Osmos, Portal or Left 4 Dead because they don't require you to be a hardcore gamer to understand and enjoy. Wouldn't think of ever shoving Baldur's Gate or Dragon Age in someone's face. Nevermind Planescape: Torment.

[slackbheep]

I'm twenty-four, and while I don't really hide the fact that I'm a gamer it's not something I go out of my way to draw attention to. I still get the occasional weird look from other adults when it does come up but by and large its a lot more common these days. Sometimes however I'm reminded of just how mainstream gaming has become, For example a few months ago one of my coworkers came in gushing about how she had been playing this incredible game all weekend and had fallen in love with the exploration of racial tensions, and so on. She was talking about DA:O, and is by no means a gamer.