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Débuté par AntiMatterHero , mars 12 2010 12:59

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AntiMatterHero
Posté 12 mars 2010 - 12:59

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I know im new to the forums and stuff and havent really searched through them much however i have been a massive Bioware fanboy.

However my real reason for posting is i feel that when i played for the human alliance in ME1 i felt much better and more loyal to my squad members. In ME2 i didnt have any real attachments and would have gladly sacrificed all the new members. I guess after working so hard in ME1 to destroy cerberus i couldnt find the attachment that was so prominment in ME1.

I would like to see myself working with the old and new team together and a bigger vessel. And im not gonna lie but i do want the old style of combat back and i do still miss the elavators slightly :lol:

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Posté 12 mars 2010 - 02:56

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I sort of have that feeling. I like Jacob a lot, and Tali and Garrus of-course. Mordrin and Grunt are also two of my favorites who I'd like to keep around. Otherwise I don't connect too much with the others.

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InvaderErl
Posté 12 mars 2010 - 03:02

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You didn't work for the Systems Alliance past the beginning, regardless of what Hackett says.

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AntiMatterHero
Posté 12 mars 2010 - 04:47

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Well being a spectre was much better then. And at the end of the day you were the one who called the shots with the entire alliance fleet at the end.

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Collider
Posté 16 mars 2010 - 08:48

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I've got the reverse feeling. But it does not really have anything to do with the Alliance versus Cerberus. More my emotional attachment to the characters specifically and individually.

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Randy1012
Posté 16 mars 2010 - 09:11

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In ME1 I felt like I was in charge of my own mission. In ME2 I felt like I was an errand boy for a deranged psychopath/megalomaniac.

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Collider
Posté 16 mars 2010 - 09:42

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I felt the opposite. You were under the Alliance's thumb in ME1 yet I felt the freedom of assembling my own team in a much larger way in ME2.

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Randy1012
Posté 16 mars 2010 - 09:48

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Collider wrote...

I felt the opposite. You were under the Alliance's thumb in ME1 yet I felt the freedom of assembling my own team in a much larger way in ME2.

Except you weren't under the Alliance's thumb. You left the Alliance as soon as you joined the Spectres. The Normandy was on loan to the Citadel. If you were under anyone's thumb, it was the Council's. You were never ordered by Hackett to perform any of those missions he sent you, because he no longer had any authority over you. He only asked you to perform them because you were in the area, and you were the best person for the job.

In ME2, the Illusive Man tells you who to recruit, and you have to recruit a certain number of them in order for the storyline to continue.

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Collider
Posté 16 mars 2010 - 10:15

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Yea, you're right. Basically I had the impression of freedom in ME2 but not in ME1, even though as you said if Shepard was under anyone's thumb it was Cerberus and TIM's.

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adam_grif
Posté 16 mars 2010 - 10:43

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Randy1083 wrote...

Collider wrote...

I felt the opposite. You were under the Alliance's thumb in ME1 yet I felt the freedom of assembling my own team in a much larger way in ME2.

Except you weren't under the Alliance's thumb. You left the Alliance as soon as you joined the Spectres. The Normandy was on loan to the Citadel. If you were under anyone's thumb, it was the Council's. You were never ordered by Hackett to perform any of those missions he sent you, because he no longer had any authority over you. He only asked you to perform them because you were in the area, and you were the best person for the job.

In ME2, the Illusive Man tells you who to recruit, and you have to recruit a certain number of them in order for the storyline to continue.


You mean like how you had to recruit all of the characters in ME1, in order, with no possible variation?

Yeah nice.

The only "choice" you get in ME1 was the order you tackle your misions in. You still get that in ME2, except to keep things under control / on one disc, they only give you a certain number to do at one time.

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yummysoap
Posté 16 mars 2010 - 10:50

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I don't know what's wrong with all you people. I found Kaiden and Ashley extremely bland. Liara was the altruistic socially inept girl that swings both ways that every bioware game has had to date. Garrus and Wrex were pretty cool. Tali and her f*cking accent and encyclopedia of quarian government and culture bored me to death.



I know it's insulting for me to say this to all of you, but are you sure it's not just... simple nostalgia that's having you liking all these people? After all Mass Effect was a fantastic game and when I first played it I was going "whoa! :D" all the way throughout to the point where I didn't really realize any of its faults until my third or fourth playthrough. I get the feeling that if Bioware originally replaced the squaddies and had your ME1 squadmates introduced in ME2 the same people would be complaining.

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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 10:55

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Collider wrote...

Yea, you're right. Basically I had the impression of freedom in ME2 but not in ME1, even though as you said if Shepard was under anyone's thumb it was Cerberus and TIM's.


You see it is the opposite for me. In ME1 once I got to the galaxy map the route I took through the plot was up to me. Noveria was an excellent example because there are several possible ways to get passed the Port. Not to mention in just about every system I could land on a planet and drive around it looking for anomalies and minerals. After each mission I was not obligated to report to anyone or to take any orders; it was at my discretion.

In ME2 I have little control. I am often told where to go and when and told who to recruit. The plot forced characters on you in ME1 too but the way it was written it felt more like it was Shepard making the decision. At least to me. I wasn't recruiting people so much as they were just happening to fall in with my Alliance team.

Even down the UCW's in ME2, I get dropped into a small area and I have a linear path to my objective. Even the loading screens detract from the sense of freedom. I get the impression that the Illusive Man is watching my every move at every moment. Disturbingly it seems he has a camera in my quarters... I hope he's into interspecies porn.

yummysoap wrote...

I don't know what's wrong with all you people. I found Kaiden and Ashley extremely bland. Liara was the altruistic socially inept girl that swings both ways that every bioware game has had to date.
Garrus and Wrex were pretty cool. Tali and her f*cking accent and
encyclopedia of quarian government and culture bored me to death.

I
know it's insulting for me to say this to all of you, but are you sure
it's not just... simple nostalgia that's having you liking all these
people?


I disagree with you completely. I liked all of the characters. In fact on my first run Kaidan was one of my most used team-mates and most talked to.

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