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[Hayllee]

Oh that's nice. At least we boonies are legal in my town. Sure, 17 and 13 is still wrong but it's legal, right?



Yes, sadly this is the reasoning of some in my town.



Yes man, please get the cops involved.

[Statulos]

It´s not just wrong, it´s disgusting.

[Dark Lilith]

it's horrifying.I was gang raped around that age,I know what it's like to feel hurt and at a loss of self-esteem and feeling like it was my fault.Consent be damned,its just complete lunacy to allow that to happen to any young girl

[smecky-kitteh]

Pshsh. Thats why I date younger girls With fathers that are less than involved.



Ok ok I kid. I'm 20 and my last gf was 19. I have a strict no dating girls that are 3 years below me policy.

[Dark Lilith]

smecky-kitteh wrote...

Pshsh. Thats why I date younger girls With fathers that are less than involved.

Ok ok I kid. I'm 20 and my last gf was 19. I have a strict no dating girls that are 3 years below me policy.

three years is not the issue! sorry but if you find that ok then your sick!

Modifié par Dark Lilith, 12 mars 2010 - 09:14 .

[Godak]

*Is into older woman*
...Of course, that may have something to do with the majority of the girls in my senior class being older than me.

[Captain Chordata]

Hayllee wrote...

Oh that's nice. At least we boonies are legal in my town. Sure, 17 and 13 is still wrong but it's legal, right?

I always wondered what that would be. Technically, they're both minors, but how could you statatory each other? It doesn't make sense!

[smecky-kitteh]

Dark Lilith wrote...

smecky-kitteh wrote...

Pshsh. Thats why I date younger girls With fathers that are less than involved.

Ok ok I kid. I'm 20 and my last gf was 19. I have a strict no dating girls that are 3 years below me policy.

three years is not the issue! sorry but if you find that ok then your sick!

No, no. I completly agree. Sorry I guess I should have made that clear instead of throwing jokes in the air. They have two completly diffrent mind sets. I don't see what a 14 year old could have incomen with a 20 year old let alone what a 20 year old would want with someone that young.

[Dark Lilith]

smecky-kitteh wrote...

Dark Lilith wrote...

smecky-kitteh wrote...

Pshsh. Thats why I date younger girls With fathers that are less than involved.

Ok ok I kid. I'm 20 and my last gf was 19. I have a strict no dating girls that are 3 years below me policy.

three years is not the issue! sorry but if you find that ok then your sick!

No, no. I completly agree. Sorry I guess I should have made that clear instead of throwing jokes in the air. They have two completly diffrent mind sets. I don't see what a 14 year old could have incomen with a 20 year old let alone what a 20 year old would want with someone that young.

he's a pedophile,plain and simple.I did not mean to upset you,I took your comment at face value,sorry!

[Statulos]

It´s not that much about laws and rules but something deeper called dignity and respect: I consider that even a 16 year old person is not generaly mature enough to fully understan the implications of having an active sexual life so a 13-14 person, even less.



Adult is not just age, it´s also mindest and sexual relations, are relations before sexual. You cannot emotionaly hurt a person and potentially destroy her life just because you want to have a couple orgasms.

[JBC4733]

Captain Chordata wrote...

That reminds of a forum post on an old forum I went to like five years ago. Basically, the guy bribed his girlfriend with N64 games for sex, so he needed to find lubricant. He didn't have anything, so he figured the next best thing was butter, because it's greasy I suppose. But the problem with butter is it's not a liquid.

However, this is easy to fix so he sticks it in the microwave. Long story short, he was at her house, her father was coming home, and he came to a gaming forum wanting advice on how to handle the situation as his girlfriend now, as he put it, had a "burned ******." This forum was, to put things lightly, was rambunctious when I was there. This post was an old one before I got there and they were even worse then. Needless to say, he didn't get much help.

...

What forum was that on? Because I swear I remember reading that a few years ago.

[Madame November]

Statulos wrote...

It´s not that much about laws and rules but something deeper called dignity and respect: I consider that even a 16 year old person is not generaly mature enough to fully understan the implications of having an active sexual life so a 13-14 person, even less.

Adult is not just age, it´s also mindest and sexual relations, are relations before sexual. You cannot emotionaly hurt a person and potentially destroy her life just because you want to have a couple orgasms.

This.

[Dark Lilith]

November Cousland wrote...

Statulos wrote...

It´s not that much about laws and rules but something deeper called dignity and respect: I consider that even a 16 year old person is not generaly mature enough to fully understan the implications of having an active sexual life so a 13-14 person, even less.

Adult is not just age, it´s also mindest and sexual relations, are relations before sexual. You cannot emotionaly hurt a person and potentially destroy her life just because you want to have a couple orgasms.

This.

this what? you lost me sweetie!

[Statulos]

I´ll reword it since it seems like my Spanish brain is kicking my English one:



I don´t care about laws as such; I care about maturity. Maturity in sexual terms will not exist in a 14 or 13 years old person for sure and I also higly doubt that it exists in a 16 year old individual.

I´m saying this because at that age I was a moron and it was thanks to a far older lady that I started becoming mature.



Having sex with a kid is not just ilegal or moraly wrong; it´s revolving, selfish and cruel. That can destroy a life, that can cripple a personality and ruin a life. A couple orgasms (and quite crappy ones due to inexperience) are not worth a ruined life.

[Dark Lilith]

Statulos wrote...

I´ll reword it since it seems like my Spanish brain is kicking my English one:

I don´t care about laws as such; I care about maturity. Maturity in sexual terms will not exist in a 14 or 13 years old person for sure and I also higly doubt that it exists in a 16 year old individual.
I´m saying this because at that age I was a moron and it was thanks to a far older lady that I started becoming mature.

Having sex with a kid is not just ilegal or moraly wrong; it´s revolving, selfish and cruel. That can destroy a life, that can cripple a personality and ruin a life. A couple orgasms (and quite crappy ones due to inexperience) are not worth a ruined life.

I agree.At that age I was busy learning reading up on sex change proticols and trying to save money for estrogen pills and HRT's.But a young person is still achild and is truely incapable of forming a true loving relationship with someone of their own age let alone a man six years older than themselves.

Modifié par Dark Lilith, 12 mars 2010 - 09:59 .

[Statulos]

Your case, with all my respect (and kudos to your bravery) sweet lady, is a little bit different due to an extra layer of issues added to the normal pack involved in being a teenager.

Healthy sex requires a crucial sine qua non condition: an important degree of self-knowledge and self-respect. Once you get to that, you know what you´d allow and what you wouldn´t; what would hurt you and what wouldn´t and last but not least, how you can ruin a person´s life and how you cannot.

Modifié par Statulos, 12 mars 2010 - 10:07 .

[Dark Lilith]

Statulos wrote...

Your case, with all my respect (and kudos to your bravery) sweet lady, is a little bit different due to an extra layer of issues added to the normal pack involved in being a teenager.

Healthy sex requires a crucial sine qua non condition: an important degree of self-knowledge and self-respect. Once you get to that, you know what you´d allow and what you wouldn´t; what would hurt you and what wouldn´t and last but not least, how you can ruin a person´s life and how you cannot.

Truely you see more than the average person. Yes I had extra issues to cope with but even my rape made me look at things much differently than the normal teenager would.I can say without hate or remorse that that event shaped my life to an extent more than any other but also gave me an outlook perhaps unique for a young person at that specific time in her life!

[Madame November]

Statulos wrote...

Healthy sex requires a crucial sine qua non
condition: an important degree of self-knowledge and self-respect. Once
you get to that, you know what you´d allow and what you wouldn´t; what
would hurt you and what wouldn´t and last but not least, how you can
ruin a person´s life and how you cannot.

Unfortunately, 13-15 year old's do not understand this. And the truth is I don't think most 17-19 year old men do either. Somehow we have to teach children this. It's very difficult though, how do you teach a 13 year old girl who is "in love" that she still shouldn't do whatever her 18 year old soulmate and future husband wants? Seriously, that is the mindset.

Modifié par November Cousland, 12 mars 2010 - 10:13 .

[Dark Lilith]

November Cousland wrote...

Statulos wrote...

Healthy sex requires a crucial sine qua non
condition: an important degree of self-knowledge and self-respect. Once
you get to that, you know what you´d allow and what you wouldn´t; what
would hurt you and what wouldn´t and last but not least, how you can
ruin a person´s life and how you cannot.

Unfortunately, 13-15 year old's do not understand this. And the truth is I don't think most 17-19 year old men do either. Somehow we have to teach children this. It's very difficult though, how do you teach a 13 year old girl who is "in love" that she still shouldn't do whatever her 18 year old soul mate and future husband wants? Seriously, that is the mindset.

I agree with you completely.At that age aren't we all looking for love and acceptance? Aren't we at the stage where we "know" more than our elders and we think we are omnipotent. Perhaps my view is jaundiced for I have experienced far more than the normal teen but that does not mean that how I think and feel as an adult has been askew.Young girls are not capable of sane nor rational thinking any more than are young boys. I see things perhaps differently than most but I know in my heart what is and isn't love or lust and 14 year old girls, in my case a she-male are not equipped to make a true rational decision concerning their lives

Modifié par Dark Lilith, 12 mars 2010 - 10:21 .

[Statulos]

That´s why I consider myself a lucky person by having met an older, caring and lovely lady who showed me many, many unknown things.



When I was 16 years my life went to the toilet for a number of reasons; the last thing I needed was a fiendish hag that would have turned the last remains of me upside down. Luckily she is a good natured person who stopped before destroying my emotional sanity completely.



But you cannot pretend that everyone is like that; you cannot pretend to be the winged saviour of anyone. What you can do is follow the EMS motto of "do no harm" and respect people.

[fairandbalancedfan]

Why did he announce that he got hit in the face ? I don't know, but it sounds pretty wimpy to me.

Also Father did what fathers are supposed to do and would have done in that situation.

I don't think Cops are going to jail that father. Probably fine him.

Modifié par fairandbalancedfan, 12 mars 2010 - 10:28 .

[Dark Lilith]

If she were my sister he would now be a gelding,no matter what the law did to me!

[bzombo]

what a retard.

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

November Cousland wrote...

That cannot be real. Are there really people like that out there?

DarkLilith- The OP posted from another forum a story about a 20yo who was punched in the face by his 14yo girlfriend's father. He was wondering if he should call the cops on the father. o_O

It is obviously a troll post as every good troll knows that you can usually get a lot of bites by posting a highly unlikely and inappropriate relationship story and watch all the relationship experts show up and give their professional opinion dispite the fact that they have probably never even gotten to second base.

Seriously there are so many things wrong with that post for it to be a serious one.

Modifié par Gandalf-the-Fabulous, 13 mars 2010 - 02:40 .

[Marinemike69]

It's all nice and good that we all have an oppion on how we think they should live and act but its all bs in the end.



It between that 20yr old/14/ and the dad.



If the 20 and 14 are happy and banging each other brains out good for them. And who cares what random people/ sheple/ mongrels think.



The father has a right to deny the 20 "acces" to the 14 cause the father #1 cares for the daughter and if not then #2 is legally still responsible for the 14 and still has to take care of her. And kids who have kids makes it very expesive for those who have to take care of them.



If the 14 moved out and lived with the 20 and the parents don't mind/care then good for them and who cares what any of you/us/me included think. Just wish them the best and move on with your lives.



And the 20 is an idiot for wanting to call the cops on the dad. He's lucky the dad didn't call on him. Even though that would be stupid as well; since it takes 2 to tango. And it's not like he abducted her and raped her in an ally.