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[Brockololly]

Question for those with Awakening:



- So far have you encountered any really tiresome dungeons like The Fade or Deep Roads in DAO? And what has been your favorite area?

[Elcucuyfeo]

I got my copy today, God bless Game Stop employees and inate ability to not follow procedure.



incidently, BioWare pulls a Rope-a-Dope im me when it came to my party.



Well Played Bioware, Well played.....

[Elcucuyfeo]

Brockololly wrote...

Question for those with Awakening:

- So far have you encountered any really tiresome dungeons like The Fade or Deep Roads in DAO? And what has been your favorite area?

The Winding woods got pretty confusing for me so far. Then again I am still playing it, If I have any more to say i'll let you know

[David Gaider]

shertokch wrote...
it has its up and down sides, but in the end, i guess there is less dialogue and therefore you wont get to know your companions as good as in DAO, but DAO was a 70 hours game and awakening only 15 hours, so i think its really a good solution. the context sensitive dialogues make a lot of sense.

Unlike ME2 the context dialogue is full conversation and not simply ambient comments from a party members. We do give up the "list of questions" that you can ask a party member -- but, after discussing it within the team for a while we decided that had limited value. You got to talk to someone, but without context it was all exposition. So we're trying this out. There's still lots of dialogue and banter, but with any luck it'll be more effectively used.

btw. the blackmarsh part of the main quest i just finished was fantastic, in no way worse than the mage tower or the red keep of origins.

Yay! I wrote Blackmarsh -- nice to hear.

Modifié par David Gaider, 14 mars 2010 - 02:59 .

[worksa8]

Blackmarsh looked great...but how do you make dragon scaled armor out of a "Spectral Dragon"? xD

[Bryy_Miller]

Lady light doorbell wrote...

I can't comment on the game's story but it would be best if people read both the calling and the stolen throne before commenting on the story.

Why? I shouldn't have to go other places in order to feel satisfied with one stories story.

[StartatZero]

I'm jealous . I never had anywhere to pre-order a copy from. First thing on Tuesday I'm going to get it though .

[Brockololly]

David Gaider wrote...
Unlike ME2 the context dialogue is full conversation and not simply ambient comments from a party members. We do give up the "list of questions" that you can ask a party member -- but, after discussing it within the team for a while we decided that had limited value. You got to talk to someone, but without context it was all exposition. So we're trying this out. There's still lots of dialogue and banter, but with any luck it'll be more effectively used.

I guess its a bit of a trade off then: more context sensitive dialogues on the events at hand versus having the more expository but non plot related chats. Having not played Awakening yet, am I right to think that the "list of questions" would be like in DAO being able to ask Leliana about her stories or asking Morrigan what its like growing up in the Wilds or asking Alistair what being a templar was like?

So in Awakening , you can't just start up a chat with a companion and ask from the list of questions but rather you'll be prompted at the dialogue points to start a conversation or if you were in camp you would only be able to chat with someone if they had something specific to tell you? Doesn't this limit your ability to get to know the party members unless you take them with you on quests?

Modifié par Brockololly, 14 mars 2010 - 03:49 .

[HaloHunter72]

HaloHunter72 wrote...

Nemesis7884 wrote...
there are several new staffes, new mage equipment and sets and there is a freakin awesom staff, wont spoil anything, i like to have it but its 180 gold...

Excellent! I like to hear this, thank you. Any news about any decent looking Mage clothing?

[Jagrevi]

David Gaider wrote...

shertokch wrote...
it has its up and down sides, but in the end, i guess there is less dialogue and therefore you wont get to know your companions as good as in DAO, but DAO was a 70 hours game and awakening only 15 hours, so i think its really a good solution. the context sensitive dialogues make a lot of sense.

Unlike ME2 the context dialogue is full conversation and not simply ambient comments from a party members. We do give up the "list of questions" that you can ask a party member -- but, after discussing it within the team for a while we decided that had limited value. You got to talk to someone, but without context it was all exposition. So we're trying this out. There's still lots of dialogue and banter, but with any luck it'll be more effectively used.

Eh, this isn't the biggest issue in the world (that would be the debacle with dead wardens choosing between completely unexplained ressurections and complete loss of their world-state/story), but I honestly care a heck of a lot more about the dialogue and choices then I do auto-slashing my sword through some random darkspawn.

Look at a game like Heavy Rain. The key selling point of your games is not actually the combat portion. Dialogue and persistent choices are what make the games sell to us.

Now I'm looking forward to this whole supposed "you get to choose which of your companions take the oath". That seems like a fun persistent choice type situation. But in general it seems like the design philosophy that makes Bioware games great has been getting tossed out the window lately.

[Brockololly]

Jagrevi wrote...

Eh, this isn't the biggest issue in the world (that would be the debacle with dead wardens choosing between completely unexplained ressurections and complete loss of their world-state/story), but I honestly care a heck of a lot more about the dialogue and choices then I do auto-slashing my sword through some random darkspawn.

Look at a game like Heavy Rain. The key selling point of your games is not actually the combat portion. Dialogue and persistent choices are what make the games sell to us.

Now I'm looking forward to this whole supposed "you get to choose which of your companions take the oath". That seems like a fun persistent choice type situation. But in general it seems like the design philosophy that makes Bioware games great has been getting tossed out the window lately.

Agree- Bioware games for me are always story and characters 1st, combat second. Thats not to say that I don't enjoy DA or ME's gameplay and combat but I can remember playing BG2 as my 1st RPG ever played and cheating my way through the game because I loved the story so much but couldn't get into the combat.

But if the change is for the better, then its much concern about nothing- and since I won't have Awakening until Tuesday, I'll reserve judgement on any tweaks they've made until then.

Modifié par Brockololly, 14 mars 2010 - 03:44 .

[Brockololly]

distinguetraces wrote...

I read through 11 pages before asking -- has Nemesis revealed what the default world state if you start as the Orlesian Warden? Who is alive? Who rules Ferelden?

I don't think anyone has mentioned it...

[Bryy_Miller]

distinguetraces wrote...

I read through 11 pages before asking

... I think things like this will get you banned on an Official Forum.

[TheMadCat]

Jagrevi wrote...


Eh, this isn't the biggest issue in the world (that would be the debacle with dead wardens choosing between completely unexplained ressurections and complete loss of their world-state/story), but I honestly care a heck of a lot more about the dialogue and choices then I do auto-slashing my sword through some random darkspawn.

Look at a game like Heavy Rain. The key selling point of your games is not actually the combat portion. Dialogue and persistent choices are what make the games sell to us.

As much as I love games like Fahrenheit (Haven't played Heavy Rain as I don't own a console but it's obviously the same style), The Longest Journey, Beyond Good and Evil, those really aren't made in the same mold as Bioware games. While Bioware does no doubt put alot of time and effort into their stories and dialogue and it is what separates them from most other RPG centric developers, it's not their even their main focus. They are designing games with good stories and dialogue where as Quantic Dream and Funcom back in the day were more focused on giving you a story that played out a bit like a game. Bioware likes to cater to the masses, and the masses are more interested in game play and general plot than dialogue and sub plots. It's not a knock, just a fact. They make RPG's and character progression and combat are the biggest parts of an RPG, I'd say more so than story and dialogue.

I would love to see what the Bioware writers and think tank could do if they designed a game styled more so that dialogue and story were given more focus over action and pacing. Could be interesting, could be a complete disaster.

[Default137]

I think Bioware should uh, tell Valve not to be so amazingly on time with their launches ( no Steam game has ever released early D: ) and uh, let us devout loyal Steam players get our taste of Awakening early as well! And I will be starting with an Orlesian Mage on my first playthrough, and will be making a thread for those of you who are worried about your US, on mid Tuesday/about 2 hours after release to tell you how the Intro felt as an Orlesian Warden.

Modifié par Default137, 14 mars 2010 - 04:22 .

[General Balls]

I think we should all lay off Nemesis and let him tell us what he wants and what he can. He shouldn't have to replay as an Orlesian, Human Noble, or any other combination just to satisfy your curiosity. He wants to play the game too.



Besides, it's getting released in a few days anyway, and all of you can find out for yourselves. Is that not preferable?

[sonlockdon]

wow this is a shock actualy, at least they didnt use the term this holiday season.



i believe this term would be beating the dead horse lol



but im jealous i thought it came out on the 16.

[UnAffectedFiddle]

I have one worrying question, are all specialisations open for the new Orlesian Warden? I havent bothered grabbing all the specilisations yet and the new reveals have had me reconsidering my eventual build that will use specs I havent opened...

[Yrkoon]

TheMadCat wrote...


I would love to see what the Bioware writers and think tank could do if they designed a game styled more so that dialogue and story were given more focus over action and pacing. Could be interesting, could be a complete disaster.

  Yep.  It would be like  Planescape: Torment.  The greatest game that ever failed commercially.

The fact is, it's gotta have tons of both to be a successfully selling RPG.  Someone on this thread said that in the past, bioware focussed on story and dialogue first, combat second.  That's not true at all.  Bioware's biggest titles were exceptionally combat intensive:   Baldurs  Gate, Neverwinter Nights....  Dragon age origins...

Modifié par Yrkoon, 14 mars 2010 - 04:52 .

[Bryy_Miller]

PlaneScape was Black Isle Studios.

Hobo in a Box wrote...

warden guru wrote...

i dont care they cant just relaese it early.

They can and they have.

Wait, I missed this guys reply? I feel all sad now.

[Feraele]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Lady light doorbell wrote...

I can't comment on the game's story but it would be best if people read both the calling and the stolen throne before commenting on the story.

Why? I shouldn't have to go other places in order to feel satisfied with one stories story.

I REFUSE to read any of those stories til I am done with Dragon Age...that might take a long long time.

Then once I am done, I will buy those books if they are still in print...just to flesh out knowledge I have gained.