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Kaynos1972

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Just got ME 1 for the 360, i just finished Dragon Age yesterday now i'm ready to play ME 1 and will possibly follow with ME 2 after I'm done.   You guys have any tips before i start the game ?

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It's going to feel a bit different from Dragon Age. Keep in mind the combat is different from ME1 to ME2, just in case you have any opinion on that matter which would affect your decision on purchasing ME2.



Um... do you like close quarter combat? Distance combat? Because if you play as an Infiltrator, I can definitely say pile on the points into sniper rifles when you level up. Sniper rifles are a pain at first, but so very worth it once you have the points.



Don't blow off Conrad Vernor no matter how tempting.

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Everything you need to know is right here.

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Here's my advice. Return it and get the PC version. Then smash your 360 and post pics.

On your first playthrough you'll be stuck with the normal difficulty level. Which should make everything very easy once you get a hang of how combat works. Keep in mind that you can look around while the game is in active pause mode. So you can target powers and squad actions efficiently. Use pause extensively until things become easy. Also, set your squad AI in the options to only use defensive powers. Manually using your team mates abilities is roughly one million times more effective give or take 3.

Equipment tips: You will get some heat sinks and hammer head rounds as equipment early in the game that will go up to level III. Keep several of each of these as they are very useful and have no equivalent until level VIII equipment. You will also get some toxic rounds up to level III. These are critical when fighting against krogan early in the game because they will stop them from getting up to fight after you kill them. Other ammunition also stops the regen effect, but they are unavailable until you get level IV equipment drops. So for early krogan, toxic ammunition is a must. A similar thing happens with equipment when you get level VII drops. You will want to keep several of each tungsten and shredder ammo mods at level VII as they have no equivalency beyond that, ever. You may want to hold on to a couple of VII cryo rounds too if you like them, the 'upgrade' to cry rounds beyond VII sucks.

Combat tips: If you see something that looks zombie-ish standing in front of you, hit it in melee. They have devastating close range attacks, but will stand still for a couple of seconds before using it. That's a perfect opportunity to rush forward and hit them in melee. They will fall over and be ineffective until they get back up. Once you get the hang of it, they are pretty easy except in huge numbers. Shotguns are also very useful against zombie like creatures, as it will knock them over as well. Shotguns will not however knock over a target that has shields up, whereas a melee attack ignores shields completely.

class tips: See wikia. It's mostly just about finding out which talents are extremely powerful, and which ones are borderline useless.

ME2 tips: Disregard everything above except the wikia reference. It's VERY different. If you primarily love shooters, you will probably think it's all for the better. If you primarily love RPG's, there's definitely some cons to go with the pros.

Modifié par Karstedt, 13 mars 2010 - 12:31 .


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For your first play through, the best advice is just to relax and enjoy it. Don't get too focused on a good build or "most powerful" or perfect. Just enjoy the story, I'd even suggest putting a few points into either charm or intimidate. They open up some conversation options.

There are always other play throughs to worry about a good build.  Just pick a class that looks like fun.

Modifié par The Grey Ranger, 13 mars 2010 - 04:16 .


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Fiery Phoenix

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The Grey Ranger wrote...

For your first play through, the best advice is just to relax and enjoy it. Don't get too focused on a good build or "most powerful" or perfect. Just enjoy the story, I'd even suggest putting a few points into either charm or intimidate. They open up some conversation options.

There are always other play throughs to worry about a good build.  Just pick a class that looks like fun.


Does that also apply to a first ME2 playthrough?

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Karstedt wrote...

Here's my advice. Return it and get the PC version. Then smash your 360 and post pics.


I wouldn't play a game on my PC if they were free!
I think the last time I ever played a game on my PC was about 8 years ago and NEVER again.
Nothing but a pain in the ass but of course individual milage may vary. JMHO. ;)

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Grandaddy63 wrote...

I wouldn't play a game on my PC if they were free!
I think the last time I ever played a game on my PC was about 8 years ago and NEVER again.
Nothing but a pain in the ass but of course individual milage may vary. JMHO. ;)


I recently replaced a computer I had kicking since 2001 -- and that computer was kicking it pretty well since I didn't use it much past 2003 for any serious gaming. Since ME1 came out on the 360 first and I was too impatient to wait it out, that's how I bought the game. So I felt kind of obligated to keep going with the 360 with ME2.

But with the computer replacement, I am oh so tempted to buy ME1, ME2, and Dragon Age for the computer. The ability to mod is tempting. The graphics are also much nicer. I suspect the gameplay mechanic with the keyboard/mouse would be easier for me than the console controller as well.

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

The Grey Ranger wrote...

For your first play through, the best advice is just to relax and enjoy it. Don't get too focused on a good build or "most powerful" or perfect. Just enjoy the story, I'd even suggest putting a few points into either charm or intimidate. They open up some conversation options.

There are always other play throughs to worry about a good build.  Just pick a class that looks like fun.


Does that also apply to a first ME2 playthrough?


For pretty much any story heavy games like Bioware makes.  So Yep  I sure did for my 1st ME 2 playthrough.  I did import one of my ME 1 runs though.

Modifié par The Grey Ranger, 13 mars 2010 - 06:37 .


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also remember that to get the most out of your game you should try to do some of the side quests. ME2 is also more enjoyable if you interacted with all the possible characters in ME1.

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Use dual heat sink mods. Not only does it make every gun instantly awesome. It makes people here cry a little.

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Pacifien wrote...

Grandaddy63 wrote...

I wouldn't play a game on my PC if they were free!
I think the last time I ever played a game on my PC was about 8 years ago and NEVER again.
Nothing but a pain in the ass but of course individual milage may vary. JMHO. ;)


I recently replaced a computer I had kicking since 2001 -- and that computer was kicking it pretty well since I didn't use it much past 2003 for any serious gaming. Since ME1 came out on the 360 first and I was too impatient to wait it out, that's how I bought the game. So I felt kind of obligated to keep going with the 360 with ME2.

But with the computer replacement, I am oh so tempted to buy ME1, ME2, and Dragon Age for the computer. The ability to mod is tempting. The graphics are also much nicer. I suspect the gameplay mechanic with the keyboard/mouse would be easier for me than the console controller as well.


I used to be very anti console... until I got a Xbox 360.  Sure, computers are getting cheaper, but good gaming computers cost $$$ and you and up buying a new one every 3-4 years to keep up with the jonses/latest games.  At least with a console you know game makers will be making product to run on your same system for the next number of years (6-8 years if you adopted early).  

I now save money by keeping my computers longer (email/web surfing/etc doesn't take a new computer).

Modifié par Throw_this_away, 15 mars 2010 - 01:54 .


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Kaynos1972 wrote...

Just got ME 1 for the 360, i just finished Dragon Age yesterday now i'm ready to play ME 1 and will possibly follow with ME 2 after I'm done.   You guys have any tips before i start the game ?


Enjoy... talk to people... and get ready to go out and Buy Me2 as soon as you finish ME1.  I did.  Invest in Paragon or Renegade skils early... not both, as points in weapins/powers is more effective for battle. 

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Max out either charm, intimidate, or both, before you go to Virmire. If you don't, you won't have the option to avoid something really bad happening. When I got to that point in the game and couldn't avoid it, I nearly deleted the game in anger.

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CrazyCatDude wrote...

Max out either charm, intimidate, or both, before you go to Virmire. If you don't, you won't have the option to avoid something really bad happening. When I got to that point in the game and couldn't avoid it, I nearly deleted the game in anger.


This is not exactly true. If you completed a certain side-quest, you won't need any ranks in Charm/Intimidate to resolve that situation at all.

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The Grey Ranger wrote...

For your first play through, the best advice is just to relax and enjoy it. Don't get too focused on a good build or "most powerful" or perfect. Just enjoy the story, I'd even suggest putting a few points into either charm or intimidate. They open up some conversation options.

There are always other play throughs to worry about a good build.  Just pick a class that looks like fun.


I entirely agree with this.

I think you should get your first few characters wrong. Don't read any guides, don't touch the wiki, don't listen to any advice about how you should play (except this!), do what you want.

If you still enjoy the game and want to play it then start looking at that stuff and character builds.

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Throw_this_away wrote…

I used to be very anti console... until I got a
Xbox 360.  Sure, computers are getting cheaper, but good gaming computers
cost $$$ and you and up buying a new one every 3-4 years to keep up with the jonses/latest
games.  At least with a console you know game makers will be making
product to run on your same system for the next number of years (6-8 years if
you adopted early).  



I now save money by keeping my computers longer (email/web surfing/etc doesn't
take a new computer).


 

More or less my feelings exactly. Besides that, I don’t like
tying myself down in front of my monitor with my eyes 30 inches from the screen
to enjoy a game. I like to sit back, relax with a drink and go at it. Years ago
I finally got fed up with playing games on a computer and some of the ensuing
problems and just tossed them all out in the garbage. As I said before…NEVER
again. I’m happy and, so it seems, is my computer! lol

 

As for playing ME1 the first time around. Just play it your
way and learn by your mistakes. You’ll then more likely than not want to play
it again....and again....and again from what you have learned the first time around! That was my experience and I thoroughly enjoyed it.  

Modifié par Grandaddy63, 16 mars 2010 - 04:14 .


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Don't get eaten by the bugs on Noveria

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CrazyCatDude wrote...

Max out either charm, intimidate, or both, before you go to Virmire. If you don't, you won't have the option to avoid something really bad happening. When I got to that point in the game and couldn't avoid it, I nearly deleted the game in anger.


see now im curious as to what this is, the only bad thing that happens on Virmire i can think of is the pretty obvious one involving certain characters, and that can't be avoided or changed with paragon and renegade points.

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There's another major thing that can go wrong on Virmire, but no way am I spoiling that here.



Devos posted the best advice here. ME1 is all about the atmosphere, the experience and the awesome world it's set in, and that's best enjoyed without overthinking things too much. Do whichever sidequests look like fun, make your decisions based on what you think Shepard should do and see how it carries over into ME2. The game isn't terribly hard on Normal, you can't really end up with a "broken" build that won't get you through.

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try not to keep restarting...that really lowered the replay value for me. In the beginning I made a whole bunch of characters and got to a certain point and then restarted. I still got a good 5 full playthroughs of the game, but it got old faster cus i couldn't motivate myself to get to the content that i'd either never have pllayed or only played once because i had to go through 5 hours of content that i had played a dozen times.

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Grandaddy63 wrote...
Besides that, I don’t like
tying myself down in front of my monitor with my eyes 30 inches from the screen
to enjoy a game. I like to sit back, relax with a drink and go at it.


After seeing a lot of these threads over the years, I'm convinced that this is the real issue with console vs. PC. Gamers who think of gaming as a "lean-back" activity go for the consoles, gamers who think of it as a "lean-forward" activity go for PCs.

But you can certainly drink in front of a PC. You can even play ME1 drunk without too much difficulty, though I'm not sure that works well with ME2.

Since the OP's coming from DA, the main thing I'd advise him is to not put much thought into equipment. There aren't really any tradeoffs to worry about. Builds you need to think about a little, but just go for the abilities you want to try out.

But definitely think about whether you like the looks of your character after you see him in the intro. Many people have complained that the character creator gave them the wrong impression of how the character would actually look in play. Better to replay the intro cutscene a few times than to be stuck with someone you don't like.

Eternz: That situation can be resolved through dialog skills regardless of paragon/renegade.

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Kaynos1972 wrote...

Just got ME 1 for the 360, i just finished Dragon Age yesterday now i'm ready to play ME 1 and will possibly follow with ME 2 after I'm done.   You guys have any tips before i start the game ?


Well idk if there's anything that these guys haven't told you, but if you like not having to use healing items a lot, then having Medical Upgrades for your suits really saves you a lot of that pain in the ass running out of medigel. lol
Plus to me, the melee is only really effective on zombie like creatures, anything else, except geth, just stands there lol.

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Mass Effect is an incredibly easy game on any difficulty... once you get the hang of it that is. Really though i think most do indeed have trouble when first starting out because it takes some getting used to. The biggest mistake early on is the feeling to play it like a typical third person shooter just because it looks like one. This is not run-n-gun.

1- Use cover. Later on when you characters are maxed out and you have the mechanics of the game down, cover isn't really needed. But before that though, using cover is the best way to minimize incoming damage. You can easily get your squadmates to take cover too with the "up" button on the d-pad. Just place the resulting arrow at a bottleneck between two pieces of cover (example, a doorway) and your squadmates will set up against cover on both sides.

2- Build up your best defensive skill early, Immunity and Barrier respectively. For classes without either, the closest thing is Electronics (passive shield boost) and though not nearly as good as the previously mentioned two, you'll need it to open stuff anyway.

3- Disable your foes. You're going to want to invest in group disables like Lift, Singularity, Decryption (Sabotage functions as a disable vs most synthetic enemies), and AI Hacking (i know it only hits one synthetic enemy but it can cause a distraction to its allies). Single target disables, like Throw, are useful too, but not nearly as much as the AoE ones. Often early on, you can not disable everything, so disable what you can and then focus your fire on killing anything that isn't floating. You can focus your teammates fire with one of the side d-pad buttons (i forget which one it is at the moment, left or right).

4- When using biotics, never target a specific enemy. Some of the AoE biotics (Lift, Warp) have a weird glitch where if they are targetted on a specific enemy, nearby enemies won't be affected even if they are within range. Instead target the ground, ceiling, or wall near the group. Make sure Target Assist in your options is set to Low. When with this setting, sometimes it is hard to get the power not to auto-target an enemy when trying to place it near them. I found the way to undo that is to keep the power wheel open, turn your view around to an area with no enemies, select a self-buffing power, then with the power wheel open turn you view back to your enemies and try placing the original power you wanted to cast again. Repeat until you find a place to put it where it won't auto-lock on an enemy.

5- Equip Medical Exoskeleton Armor upgrades. This way your allies and yourself will heal when in cover (which you can duck behind when your shields are depleted). Not only that, but the higher level Med Exos reduce power cool-down, enabling you to disable enemies faster. You can buy quite a few off of the Doctor on the Citadel. Some are pricey but since there really isn't ever a need to spend money on anything else anyway (except if you happen upon Colossus or Predator H/M/L armors at vendors or if you ever want the overpowered Spectre weapons after getting the Rich achievement, though neither are a concern until late-game).

Also not investing in the proper talents as you progress can make the mid-game harder than usual. I could detail which should be raised when for the easiest time through, but that would depend on what class you choose to play first.

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I have just begun yet another playthrough of ME1. I did about 3 playthroughs of ME1 and about the same for 2..



In 1st playthrough, I didn't even bother using saves for story reasons - only used for a tuff fight - I had to live with my decisions and that really helped me with immersion. I just chill out and take my time, so my time playing is a lot longer than the average on these boards seem to be!



I have both an XBox and a PC. I play ME 1/2 on Xbox and DAO on PC. I have simply never managed to control a shooter game proper with keyboard and mouse, thought I wouldn't have either MEs down as pure shooters, thankfully.