InvaderErl wrote...
Whether you like the face or not is certainly a matter of opinion. That the face is more detailed than custom Shep's is a matter of fact and arguing that is just Trooper being obtuse.So we should just call it what it is and leave it at that.
St Mael wrote...
Fair enough, you have your own tastes, but you have to realise that you are in the minority among your gender. I'm certain most women wouldn't kick Mark Vanderloo out of their beds. So my point still stands.UsagiVindaloo wrote...
Actually, speaking as a woman, part of the reason I'm very meh over Sheploo is *because* he's not handsome enough to appeal to me. Well, it's more complicated than that... not that he isn't nice, but he's not my type. I prefer more androgynous male characters (think the male cast of Final Fantasy VII) which Sheploo most definitely is NOT. Of course, it didn't take me long to realize that you couldn't make that kind of character anyway (DLC, Bioware, please?), but at that point, it then became an issue of, "Well, all the male Shepards are going to look a certain way anyway... may as well play around with that and see what I can come up with."
Then when I was fiddling with the presets, I saw a faintly Asian facial structure, and thought, hey, I haven't played an Asian male character before. I made Hikaru Shepard (the smiling bald guy on first page) and... I dunno, the voice just seemed to totally match him. Now it's really bizarre seeing other Shepards open their mouths and "Hikaru's" voice comes out.
I don't really have a problem with Sheploo, though... I just figure that if there's so much control you have over character creation, may as well fiddle with it. Heck, the character creator was part of the reason I tried the game out to begin with!
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TheTrooper1138 wrote...
why do I need Gears of War, thanks to the editor I can make my own badass Shepard (though I wish they'd given us some real haircuts, same for Femsheps, just terrible choice...)?
And lol about stereotypes... fashion models are the personification of a stereotype.. so don't talk about stereotypes with your Sheploo ava...
And personally I hate Star Trek.. Shatner is great as Denny Crane though...
TheTrooper1138 wrote...
so? I don't agree with what most men consider "hot" in women as well, so why should I care? Most female models look like dolls as well, I prefer real women. And in my games I prefer real male characters...
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InvaderErl wrote...
Whether you like the face or not is certainly a matter of opinion. That the face is more detailed than custom Shep's is a matter of fact and arguing that is just Trooper being obtuse.So we should just call it what it is and leave it at that.
Luc0s wrote...
TheTrooper1138 wrote...
why do I need Gears of War, thanks to the editor I can make my own badass Shepard (though I wish they'd given us some real haircuts, same for Femsheps, just terrible choice...)?
And lol about stereotypes... fashion models are the personification of a stereotype.. so don't talk about stereotypes with your Sheploo ava...
And personally I hate Star Trek.. Shatner is great as Denny Crane though...
Yeah, the customize options are bad in Mass Effect. The haircuts are all lame except for the shaved-one (even with I play femShep, I'll play a female with a shaved haircut). The eye-options are also stupid and ugly for both male and female, except for 2 or 3 options.
So yeah, another reason for me to stick with the default Sheploo. But hey, whatever floats your boat, right?
Luc0s wrote..
TheTrooper1138 wrote...
so? I don't agree with what most men consider "hot" in women as well, so why should I care? Most female models look like dolls as well, I prefer real women. And in my games I prefer real male characters...
So female models (I guess you're talking about fashion models) aren't real women? What the...
Well, most female characters in ME (including 90% of all custom femSheps) look like plastic dolls, except for Chakwas and Jack.
Sheploo isn't more or less real then any other custom Shepard. In fact, I'd say he's the only real character because they scanned a real human's face for the default Sheploo Shepard.
Luc0s wrote...
InvaderErl wrote...
Whether you like the face or not is certainly a matter of opinion. That the face is more detailed than custom Shep's is a matter of fact and arguing that is just Trooper being obtuse.So we should just call it what it is and leave it at that.
Finally someone who isn't personally biased.
To bad I don't have ME2 on a PC but on Xbox360, else I would have tried to import both the default and a custom Shepard to 3dsMax and see which one has the most polygons.
I bet my 5buck on it that the Sheploo model has more polygons than any custom Shepard model.
Well I think I should say that you probably are in the minority, not that that there is anything wrong with that.UsagiVindaloo wrote...
Hrm, I'm not sure I'm in the minority of my gender... the male cast of FF7 are very, very, VERY popular for a reason, you know. ;-) But having said that, I probably wouldn't kick Vanderloo out of my bed either, any more than I'd kick Commander Hikaru Shepard out.
... of course, they'd have to ask Thane nicely if they could stay. :3
It's obviously not just a matter of complexion, the skin textures are also completely different.And as for the polys, yes, the flaws aren't always that evident but they
are still there most of the time and the polys never mesh as seamless
as they do in the Sheploo model. The reason for that is, i believe, that
they had to cut down on the poly count for the customizable head models
to allow for easier displacement of polygons and make the editing
utility more user friendly. Customizing would have been much more
difficult on the number of polygons the default model has, or at least
that seems to be case from what I've gathered while trying to make
custom Shepards.
Modifié par St Mael, 13 mars 2010 - 05:15 .
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TheTrooper1138 wrote...
they still look better than Sheploo without much effort... ;-)
TheTrooper1138 wrote...
Miranda was also modelled after a real person, though she is a bit dolly and no, fashion models that have no ****** or ass, because the "I haven't eaten in weeks"-look is "in" are no real women. Real women do have ****** and ass and some flesh on their bones... <_<
Also real women don't need beauty OPs and tans and whatever... nothing against a bit of makeup and the likes as long as it fits the person, but come on, are you seriously suggesting fashion models still look like women? To quote 4chan on that topic: "If I wanted women who looked like ten-year-old boys, I'd date ten-year-old boys"...
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St Mael wrote...
Well I think I should say that you probably are in the minority, not that that there is anything wrong with that.UsagiVindaloo wrote...
Hrm, I'm not sure I'm in the minority of my gender... the male cast of FF7 are very, very, VERY popular for a reason, you know. ;-) But having said that, I probably wouldn't kick Vanderloo out of my bed either, any more than I'd kick Commander Hikaru Shepard out.
... of course, they'd have to ask Thane nicely if they could stay. :3
It's mostly a matter of cultural differences which depend on what part of the world you come from. For example in my country most women have never even heard of Final Fantasy and androgynous men are VERY unpopular, back in highschool I used to see guys like that get picked on a lot and they were in no way successful with girls. While in a country like Japan a think the situation is very different.
P.S. As for the face detail and polygons, I said this o page 3.It's obviously not just a matter of complexion, the skin textures are also completely different.And as for the polys, yes, the flaws aren't always that evident but they
are still there most of the time and the polys never mesh as seamless
as they do in the Sheploo model. The reason for that is, i believe, that
they had to cut down on the poly count for the customizable head models
to allow for easier displacement of polygons and make the editing
utility more user friendly. Customizing would have been much more
difficult on the number of polygons the default model has, or at least
that seems to be case from what I've gathered while trying to make
custom Shepards.
Guest_Luc0s_*
Blue Ninja wrote...
I'm playing through the game with a custom shep for the first time (my previous three ME2 playthroughs were all with Sheploo), and I have to say I ultimately like Sheploo better. I don't know why, I just do.
Also, 'Sheploo' sounds very strange when you say it out loud.
Modifié par InvaderErl, 13 mars 2010 - 05:44 .
Modifié par The Angry One, 13 mars 2010 - 05:46 .
The Angry One wrote...
a teenage boy who's trying to make himself look old enough to buy beer.
fortunesque wrote...
I'll throw in my support here.
One thing that I'd *really* like to see would be a code for imported faces. I had it perfect in ME1 and it transferred beautifully. But I can't share it with people? Seriously? I have to start from scratch?
-.-
The Angry One wrote...
I don't consider Vanderloo handsome. Well, he looks alright when he isn't trying to be a skinhead.
But THAT particular look I consider horrible. He looks like a prettyboy model playing at looking like a tough guy and with that look he utterly fails at both.
I mean look at that fluff goatee. He looks like a teenage boy who's trying to make himself look old enough to buy beer.
The Angry One wrote...
fortunesque wrote...
I'll throw in my support here.
One thing that I'd *really* like to see would be a code for imported faces. I had it perfect in ME1 and it transferred beautifully. But I can't share it with people? Seriously? I have to start from scratch?
-.-
I think it's supposed to give you a code and be alterable, but it's bugged. You using the PC version?
Modifié par Onyx Jaguar, 13 mars 2010 - 06:06 .
I'm Belgian, and I say "lou". I don't know why, but for some reason the dutch pronunciation doesn't find its way out.Luc0s wrote...
Blue Ninja wrote...
I'm playing through the game with a custom shep for the first time (my previous three ME2 playthroughs were all with Sheploo), and I have to say I ultimately like Sheploo better. I don't know why, I just do.
Also, 'Sheploo' sounds very strange when you say it out loud.
If you say it out loud, do you say it as "Shep-low" or "Shep-lou" ("ou" pronounced as in "you")?
I know the correct way to pronounce it is "low", but I wonder if many English/American people accidently say "lou".
Modifié par Blue Ninja, 13 mars 2010 - 06:25 .
fortunesque wrote...
I'll throw in my support here.
One thing that I'd *really* like to see would be a code for imported faces. I had it perfect in ME1 and it transferred beautifully. But I can't share it with people? Seriously? I have to start from scratch?
-.-
Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 13 mars 2010 - 06:49 .
The Angry One wrote...
I don't consider Vanderloo handsome. Well, he looks alright when he isn't trying to be a skinhead.
But THAT particular look I consider horrible. He looks like a prettyboy model playing at looking like a tough guy and with that look he utterly fails at both.
I mean look at that fluff goatee. He looks like a teenage boy who's trying to make himself look old enough to buy beer.
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