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[vometia]

Might get it on the basis that I have some unused points to spend, but if that weren't the case it'd be "definitely not". And I wish people would stop talking about "free" DLC, most of which is pretty trivial anyway - withholding something from the original game and then making it available for download later doesn't constitute "free" in my book. I don't mind paying for new stuff, but the key word here is "new".

[superimposed]

Akeashar wrote...

I recently escaped the overpriced penal colony that is Oz... I'm kind of frightened about what the Bioshock 2 CE would sell for there, since its ~$100 here in the US.
If it can be gotten with the smallest amount of M$ points you can buy, I'd consider it.

Games rarely get above the $110 mark. The only ones I've seen that have come in giant boxes with a whole bunch of extra **** like figurines or replica weapons or something.

[CandraZ]

I'm confused. I went to the article of Kasumi on ME Wiki. And it says 1600mps. And it gives a link to that article where it says 560mps. Where'd the wiki get 1600 from??

[snappyfingers]

wiki sucks, and there is no way in hell they would charge 1600 points, that would be epic fail by both bioware and ea. Very few would buy it.

[CandraZ]

snappyfingers wrote...

wiki sucks, and there is no way in hell they would charge 1600 points, that would be epic fail by both bioware and ea. Very few would buy it.

They charged 1200 for Shale.

[El-Destructo]

I won't believe anything until Bioware/EA makes an official statement. Wikis are notoriously full of lies, and that translated link doesn't prove anything to me.

Hell, the way it is worded you could just as say that it will be a freebie download on Cerberus net.



"Stolen memory will go on sale in April. Appendix can be downloaded via a network of Cerberus (no access to it will not be able to download DLC)."

In addition to the following lines on it being priced at 560 points.

[jamskinner]

Karstedt wrote...

Pauravi wrote...

Man, some of you are such cheapskates.
Bioware gave us a fantastic game and a bunch of free DLC, and Hammerhead will be free too. $7 is not exactly gonna break the bank, and I am a poor student. 1.5 - 2 hours of content, a new character, and a new SMG is more enjoyment than I'd get if I took $7 to a crappy movie theater, and it is certainly more than I have gotten out of a similar amount of money spent on content for other games. I'm all over it. Bioware deserves our support!

Obviously, you are not a poor student or you wouldn't be comparing it to going to the theatre. I can't afford to see movie at the theatre anymore unless someone pays for my ticket.

But you can afford two 50 to 60 dollar games.

[Urazz]

CandraZ wrote...

snappyfingers wrote...

wiki sucks, and there is no way in hell they would charge 1600 points, that would be epic fail by both bioware and ea. Very few would buy it.

They charged 1200 for Shale.

yeah, but Shale was fully integrated into the game.  Had her own mission, new items, fully interacted with the other party members, and had an ending as well.

I'm guessing Kasumi will be a bit like Zaeed but hopefully have a bit more meat as a squaddie compared to Zaeed.

[Onyx Jaguar]

I hope Kasumi has less meat than Zaeed or else we are in for a surprise

[Atmosfear3]

560 points is just about exactly $7 USD.



Consider:



1600 pts for $19.99 and 4000 pts for $49.99 on Newegg/Amazon (I buy from newegg, no tax for NY residents).



1600 / 19.99 = 80.04

4000 / 49.99 = 80.02

560 / 80 = 7



Thats a fairly reasonable price for the amount of content you get. Hell, bluray movies costs somewhere in the ballpark of $25 for 1.5-2 hour long features and lets face it, its going to be the same movie you watch each time. With this DLC, I'm certain there will be at least two playthroughs for paragons and renegades which easily equals to at least 2 hours of value for $7.

[DuffyMJ]

Atmosfear3 wrote...

560 points is just about exactly $7 USD.

Consider:

1600 pts for $19.99 and 4000 pts for $49.99 on Newegg/Amazon (I buy from newegg, no tax for NY residents).

1600 / 19.99 = 80.04
4000 / 49.99 = 80.02
560 / 80 = 7

Thats a fairly reasonable price for the amount of content you get. Hell, bluray movies costs somewhere in the ballpark of $25 for 1.5-2 hour long features and lets face it, its going to be the same movie you watch each time. With this DLC, I'm certain there will be at least two playthroughs for paragons and renegades which easily equals to at least 2 hours of value for $7.

BTW off topic but do you know how newegg gets away with that in New York State?  I had the impression that the Amazon tax law applies to all online retailers shipping to NYS? How does newegg get around that?!?! 

[Beerfish]

I can easily afford it, I'll get it.

[Eradyn]

I'll consider it, but I'm leaning towards "meh, no." Have a hard time forking over $7-8 for 1-1.5 hours of DLC for a character that isn't fully integrated and not likely to be used often. =/ Still feeling burnt by Warden's Keep from DA:O...Were it $5 I might consider it more, but as it stands I'm going to wait and see others' feedback.

[Atmosfear3]

DuffyMJ wrote...

Atmosfear3 wrote...

560 points is just about exactly $7 USD.

Consider:

1600 pts for $19.99 and 4000 pts for $49.99 on Newegg/Amazon (I buy from newegg, no tax for NY residents).

1600 / 19.99 = 80.04
4000 / 49.99 = 80.02
560 / 80 = 7

Thats a fairly reasonable price for the amount of content you get. Hell, bluray movies costs somewhere in the ballpark of $25 for 1.5-2 hour long features and lets face it, its going to be the same movie you watch each time. With this DLC, I'm certain there will be at least two playthroughs for paragons and renegades which easily equals to at least 2 hours of value for $7.

BTW off topic but do you know how newegg gets away with that in New York State?  I had the impression that the Amazon tax law applies to all online retailers shipping to NYS? How does newegg get around that?!?! 

To my knowledge, the tax that Amazon charges to NYS residents is recent (I think it was implemented only last spring or summer).  I believe it was NYS law actually, not so much Amazon's fault that NY residents are taxed.  On a separate note, California residents are charged tax when purchasing from Newegg.  Tax laws on online purchases just vary from state to state I suppose.

[DuffyMJ]

Atmosfear3 wrote...

DuffyMJ wrote...

Atmosfear3 wrote...

560 points is just about exactly $7 USD.

Consider:

1600 pts for $19.99 and 4000 pts for $49.99 on Newegg/Amazon (I buy from newegg, no tax for NY residents).

1600 / 19.99 = 80.04
4000 / 49.99 = 80.02
560 / 80 = 7

Thats a fairly reasonable price for the amount of content you get. Hell, bluray movies costs somewhere in the ballpark of $25 for 1.5-2 hour long features and lets face it, its going to be the same movie you watch each time. With this DLC, I'm certain there will be at least two playthroughs for paragons and renegades which easily equals to at least 2 hours of value for $7.

BTW off topic but do you know how newegg gets away with that in New York State?  I had the impression that the Amazon tax law applies to all online retailers shipping to NYS? How does newegg get around that?!?! 

To my knowledge, the tax that Amazon charges to NYS residents is recent (I think it was implemented only last spring or summer).  I believe it was NYS law actually, not so much Amazon's fault that NY residents are taxed.  On a separate note, California residents are charged tax when purchasing from Newegg.  Tax laws on online purchases just vary from state to state I suppose.

Yeah, it was.  I was working for the state when it happened, it was created during Spitzer's brief reign and was lobby'd by bookseller associations who were targeting Amazon, but the law is supposed to apply to all online purchasing, not just Amazon... Seems weird that no one had cited Newegg for violating the law for so long.

[Chamelion117]

Sleepicub09 wrote...

Jarcander wrote...

That's 1$ too much. No deal.

cheapskate

That's the American way!

[Karstedt]

jamskinner wrote...

Karstedt wrote...

Pauravi wrote...

Man, some of you are such cheapskates.
Bioware gave us a fantastic game and a bunch of free DLC, and Hammerhead will be free too. $7 is not exactly gonna break the bank, and I am a poor student. 1.5 - 2 hours of content, a new character, and a new SMG is more enjoyment than I'd get if I took $7 to a crappy movie theater, and it is certainly more than I have gotten out of a similar amount of money spent on content for other games. I'm all over it. Bioware deserves our support!

Obviously, you are not a poor student or you wouldn't be comparing it to going to the theatre. I can't afford to see movie at the theatre anymore unless someone pays for my ticket.

But you can afford two 50 to 60 dollar games.

Ummm... no. I can't. I paid $25 for ME1, and ME2 was a gift. I would have simply done the p word to ME2 has I not gotten it as a gift. I'ze broke!

[skyferret]

I've already messed up disc one, so I can't even start a new game. As a poor student myself, lawls, yeah, seven bucks is too much for another human female and an SMG that I'll never use. I'll be over here, maybe saving up for a completely new game because I can't find one disc for sale. Or maybe I'll just sell my disc and wait til ME3 comes out, since I already have all the achievements. Hurr hurr.



I usually don't mind paying for DLC, because there is work put into it. But with Kasumi, whether or not she was supposed to be in the original game like Zaeed is really iffy so I'm rather offput by this.

[Ramikadyc]

skyferret wrote...


I usually don't mind paying for DLC, because there is work put into it. But with Kasumi, whether or not she was supposed to be in the original game like Zaeed is really iffy so I'm rather offput by this.

It's actually not iffy at all.

Unless you're a conspiracy theorist, of course.

Modifié par Ramikadyc, 13 mars 2010 - 07:17 .

[skyferret]

Ramikadyc wrote...

skyferret wrote...


I usually don't mind paying for DLC, because there is work put into it. But with Kasumi, whether or not she was supposed to be in the original game like Zaeed is really iffy so I'm rather offput by this.

It's actually not iffy at all.

Unless you're a conspiracy theorist, of course.

if I said I was a conspiracy theorist, would you believe me too?

[Akeashar]

skyferret wrote...

I've already messed up disc one, so I can't even start a new game. As a poor student myself, lawls, yeah, seven bucks is too much for another human female and an SMG that I'll never use. I'll be over here, maybe saving up for a completely new game because I can't find one disc for sale. Or maybe I'll just sell my disc and wait til ME3 comes out, since I already have all the achievements. Hurr hurr.

Ouch. How did you mess up your disk?  If its just scratched you might be able to get some help from a ... scratcher... fixer... upper... (Had a video store fix one of my other game DVDs that my brother scratched to heck and back)

[Akeashar]

superimposed wrote...

Games rarely get above the $110 mark. The only ones I've seen that have come in giant boxes with a whole bunch of extra **** like figurines or replica weapons or something.

The PS3 games were getting really pricey over there before I moved.  But yeah, the Bioshock 2 CE (in the US at least) came with a vinyl LP, regular soundtrack, artbook, posters... nifty stuff. Not quite nifty enough for me to spend an extra $40+ US.

[Razor_Zeng]

Akeashar wrote...

superimposed wrote...

Games rarely get above the $110 mark. The only ones I've seen that have come in giant boxes with a whole bunch of extra **** like figurines or replica weapons or something.

The PS3 games were getting really pricey over there before I moved.  But yeah, the Bioshock 2 CE (in the US at least) came with a vinyl LP, regular soundtrack, artbook, posters... nifty stuff. Not quite nifty enough for me to spend an extra $40+ US.

http://www.ebgames.c...dition-Xbox-360

$148AU - A bit expensive.

PS3 version is the same price while the PC version is $20 less.

And these rediculous prices are why I don't bother to shop at Aussie game stores anymore. I can buy a limited edition version of a game (in this case Just Cause 2) for just over $71AU and get it delivered from England while that would cost me $108AU from a local store.

Online FTW?

[Crowwalker100]

Geez, people whiing over $7.00..

[Kalfear]

Seeker1187 wrote...

just a thought... you do realize you pay about 20$ for a two hour dvd right? So what is so wrong with paying around 10$ for a one hour interactive visual experience?

Believe me I hate parting with money too, but considering the amount of work that is involved with making this stuff I would say a ball park estimate of 10 bucks is more than fair.

Well that would be relevant IF we were talking about a 10 minute add on to the movie (10 minute add on to movie kinda equals 1 hour add on to a 35 hour Video game)

Fact of matter is I already paid my $70.00 (roughly) for the game. Just like I paid $20.00 (or less) for the DVD.

I have no problem paying $20.00 for a 90minute+ movie that typically costs 100+ million to make (I dont buy many DVDs, jusat the good stuff). Just like I have no problem paying $70.00 for a 35 hour game (although thats my limit as I strongly beleive in the $1 for 1 hour ration with price and no one to date has been able to resonably detract that ration standard).

As I said thou, we not talking about a 35 hour hame, we talking $7.00 for a 1 hour add on. If Bioware spends 50 million dollars (like the movie you revering to) to create that add on, ill pay the $7.00 but we both know full weel they didnt even spend $500,000 to create this add on.

I will pay $2.00 (thats my max price) for a 1 hour add on. Thats noty being cheap either, thats being RESPONCIBLE. Based on DA:O (which granted sold better then ME2) numbers,typical Bioware DLC gets downloaded 1.5 million times. So lets say 1,250,000 for Mass Effect. At $2.00 a download thats $2,500,000 paid. Now DLC is cheaper to make then a new game cause you already have engine, you already have tool set, you dont need to worry about packaging (as its all digital), its dirt cheap to make. I guarentee you they clear 2 million profit if they sold this for $2.00.

To me, thats enough mark up and reasonable mark up. I dont buy a loaf of bread for $10.00 cause the farmer wants a 600% mark up, why would I do that for a video game company?

Bioware and other companies need to learn that DLC is not some right to print money, THEY have responcibilities as well and 1 hour or 1.5 hours of content at $7.00 isnt even coming close to meeting their own responcibilities to their customers.

Fact is we already forked out good money for the game, for the first game, for the novels, for the comics. When is it enough for Bioware and EA and they give us something SUBSTANCIAL back for our dollar spent?

Im not asking for something outragious either, Ill gladdly pay $1.00 for every hour of content they give us and if they throw in INTERACTIVE (not point and click Zhaees nonsence) conversations with a fully voiced over and COMPLEXE character, Ill even go as high as $2.00 for every 1 hour of content to meet the extra costs.

So to answer your original queary. I agree to pay $10.00 for every hour of movie currently. But you are agreeing to pay $70.00 for every hour of movie content with Biowares current pricing plan for this DLC.

Sorry but I think your crazy. I wont pay $140.00 for a 2 hour movie and I wont pay $245.00 for a 35 hour video game cause THATS what your agreeing to $7.00/hour of content works out to. 

and Ill be as bold as to say, im pretty sure most adults who pay their own way and pay their own bills agree with me on this. So far looks like its the kiddies with no money/value sence saying any cost is worth it. They will smarten up in time when they grow up years/decades from now.

And Bioware, personally im 110% against piracy of any type, be it music, video games, art, what ever. But you must know that by pricing this stuff so insanely with such a high mark up, your just giving people a excuse to look for pirated copies of the DLC. Restraunts run at a 25%-30% (sometimes even higher then that) house cost to plate cost pricing. Why should the video game industry be so different! 

Make a good product and the masses will buy it and you will make your money on quanity. Cause you keep overpricing this stuff and your market will dry up. mark my words. People complained when you charged them full price for a 20 hour Jade Empire game. What makes you think they wont complain when you charge then 1/10th the cost of JE for 1/20th the product!

Not sure who doing your math for you but it DOESNT WORK!