Kalfear wrote...
Seeker1187 wrote...
just a thought... you do realize you pay about 20$ for a two hour dvd right? So what is so wrong with paying around 10$ for a one hour interactive visual experience?
Believe me I hate parting with money too, but considering the amount of work that is involved with making this stuff I would say a ball park estimate of 10 bucks is more than fair.
Well that would be relevant IF we were talking about a 10 minute add on to the movie (10 minute add on to movie kinda equals 1 hour add on to a 35 hour Video game)
Fact of matter is I already paid my $70.00 (roughly) for the game. Just like I paid $20.00 (or less) for the DVD.
I have no problem paying $20.00 for a 90minute+ movie that typically costs 100+ million to make (I dont buy many DVDs, jusat the good stuff). Just like I have no problem paying $70.00 for a 35 hour game (although thats my limit as I strongly beleive in the $1 for 1 hour ration with price and no one to date has been able to resonably detract that ration standard).
As I said thou, we not talking about a 35 hour hame, we talking $7.00 for a 1 hour add on. If Bioware spends 50 million dollars (like the movie you revering to) to create that add on, ill pay the $7.00 but we both know full weel they didnt even spend $500,000 to create this add on.
I will pay $2.00 (thats my max price) for a 1 hour add on. Thats noty being cheap either, thats being RESPONCIBLE. Based on DA:O (which granted sold better then ME2) numbers,typical Bioware DLC gets downloaded 1.5 million times. So lets say 1,250,000 for Mass Effect. At $2.00 a download thats $2,500,000 paid. Now DLC is cheaper to make then a new game cause you already have engine, you already have tool set, you dont need to worry about packaging (as its all digital), its dirt cheap to make. I guarentee you they clear 2 million profit if they sold this for $2.00.
To me, thats enough mark up and reasonable mark up. I dont buy a loaf of bread for $10.00 cause the farmer wants a 600% mark up, why would I do that for a video game company?
Bioware and other companies need to learn that DLC is not some right to print money, THEY have responcibilities as well and 1 hour or 1.5 hours of content at $7.00 isnt even coming close to meeting their own responcibilities to their customers.
Fact is we already forked out good money for the game, for the first game, for the novels, for the comics. When is it enough for Bioware and EA and they give us something SUBSTANCIAL back for our dollar spent?
Im not asking for something outragious either, Ill gladdly pay $1.00 for every hour of content they give us and if they throw in INTERACTIVE (not point and click Zhaees nonsence) conversations with a fully voiced over and COMPLEXE character, Ill even go as high as $2.00 for every 1 hour of content to meet the extra costs.
So to answer your original queary. I agree to pay $10.00 for every hour of movie currently. But you are agreeing to pay $70.00 for every hour of movie content with Biowares current pricing plan for this DLC.
Sorry but I think your crazy. I wont pay $140.00 for a 2 hour movie and I wont pay $245.00 for a 35 hour video game cause THATS what your agreeing to $7.00/hour of content works out to.
and Ill be as bold as to say, im pretty sure most adults who pay their own way and pay their own bills agree with me on this. So far looks like its the kiddies with no money/value sence saying any cost is worth it. They will smarten up in time when they grow up years/decades from now.
And Bioware, personally im 110% against piracy of any type, be it music, video games, art, what ever. But you must know that by pricing this stuff so insanely with such a high mark up, your just giving people a excuse to look for pirated copies of the DLC. Restraunts run at a 25%-30% (sometimes even higher then that) house cost to plate cost pricing. Why should the video game industry be so different!
Make a good product and the masses will buy it and you will make your money on quanity. Cause you keep overpricing this stuff and your market will dry up. mark my words. People complained when you charged them full price for a 20 hour Jade Empire game. What makes you think they wont complain when you charge then 1/10th the cost of JE for 1/20th the product!
Not sure who doing your math for you but it DOESNT WORK!
Wow its nice to actually get a well thought out rebuttle to a post... I thank you for that.
I can see exactly where you are coming from and for the most part I can agree with it, however, I think what it boils down to is that we see things a little differently. I actually am an adult just out of college with some nice debts racked up (college loans... not irresposible spending) with an appartment and a girlfriend to keep in mind... so yeah I tend to be on the frugal side with most things. However, I have no problem spending my money on things that I can afford and that I really enjoy.
What I'm getting at is that I tend to look at things more from a price vs. enjoyment perspective (yes even though my original example was a purley hour to dollar comparrison. So to sum it all up, I am quite used to paying around $20 for DVD... that is about two hours of entertainment (and because I am a huge film nerd I will watch it over and over and
over and over again, making it much more than just two hours.. for me ). Thus, FOR ME, it makes sense to pay approximately 10$ for every hour of "OMG this is awesome" entertainment.
I tend to consider games like ME, Arkham Asylum, KOTOR, Chrono Cross, etc etc... more of a interactive visual experience than just a simple "video game". Meaning, like my obsession with movies, I will go back and play these games over and over and over again (multiplying its value).
Moreover: If I were to go to best buy and pick up a $45 season of a TV show on DVD, I have made an ivestment. Now when season two comes out, I fully expect to pay full price for it if I want that one as well. It is a continuing form of entertainment that requires a dollar amount equivilant to the product's value (both in terms of man hours spent to make it and how much entertainment it will give to me.
This brings me to my ultimate point; It is up to you to decide whether or not a product has enough value to pay it's price. NEVER FORGET: Entertainment is a LUXURY, not a RIGHT. If you are correct Kalfear, and Bioware is shooting themselves in the foot by overpricing their proucts, well then that is their issue and hopefully they will learn from it if not enough people buy and support (and THAT is absolutley your right).
I am NOT, at all, saying that I am right and you are wrong... this is just the way I see it.
Again, thank you for taking the time to comment on my post in an intellegent and lucid manner.
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