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[Onyx Jaguar]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Tlazolteotl wrote...

If you're playing a Mass Effect game, you're playing your Shepard.
If you're not playing a Mass Effect game, who cares what Shepard is supposed to have done?

Indeed.

Yes

[Computron2000]

Bachuck wrote...
But my personal story, or perhaps a better phrase would be, "my version of events in my personal ME experience", is not official canon. Just because I play ME a certain way doesn't make it canon. Does it make it my own personal canon, sure, but that means nothing to no one except me.

If I bought a novel that wanted to detail Shepards adventures after ME3, Bioware would have to give the author an official canon from which to begin and that "bible" would be the only official canon. If the author wanted to detail what Shepard looks like, you better believe he's going to be male, because that's the canon Shep. There would be no way for any author to incorporate our collective Shepards into one single cohesive story that didn't involve millions of parallel universes, but even then, the story would only focus on one Shepard and you better believe it's the guy on your 360 cover box.

So? Should i care? If so, why? If not, why even bother raising this issue?

[Ieldra]

Bachuck wrote...
That's what I mean. When all is said and done, there's a base canon that will be drawn upon. It's completely ridiculous to believe otherwise. They've given us a great universe to play in, but at a certain point, if this property does get made into a feature (or trilogy of films), they're going to have to make choices for the story and they're not going to take our choices into account. They will ultimately use whatever canon they've created.

Yes...and is there anyone who doesn't know that? Why make an issue of it? I'm sorry to say it, but you come across as a would-be killjoy.

[enormousmoonboots]

You were asking for promotional images of Femshep before, right? Ever take a good look at the back of the Mass Effect case? Top-middle picture is a woman in N7 armor (not Onyx, red stripe and everything) talking to Wrex. I'm afraid I don't know where to find a picture of the back of the ME1 case at the moment, but it's there.

[binaryemperor]

Canon shepard is a massive douchebag. He killed Wrex, killed the Rachni queen, killed the council, and pretty much did every overly renegade action possible. In ME2 he probably saved the collector base to and licked TIM's boots.

(he probably got half or nearly all of his squad killed, too.  Probably the aliens, no doubt)

Modifié par binaryemperor, 13 mars 2010 - 08:34 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

As long as they won't pull another US Awakening I don't have anything to complain about.

[enormousmoonboots]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

enormousmoonboots wrote...

You were asking for promotional images of Femshep before, right? Ever take a good look at the back of the Mass Effect case? Top-middle picture is a woman in N7 armor (not Onyx, red stripe and everything) talking to Wrex. I'm afraid I don't know where to find a picture of the back of the ME1 case at the moment, but it's there.

Then your statement is irrelevent until you find one. Just kidding.

Seriously though, what is this whole debate about?  Is about "Big Decisions" or "LI's and the Sexual preference of Shep" or both.  When I was posting here last night, I thought the heart of the discussion was "My choices don't matter".  Yes I suppose the LI issue is a spinoff from that.   A few tempors have seemed to flair up over this.  Let's be honest. 
Edit:  Added a comment.

I'd take a picture myself, but I literally just lent out my ME1 copy last night, and all the stuff I can find on the internet is the ME2 box. Chances are pretty good that most people in this topic own ME1, so you can all check it yourself     v:mellow:v

[Onyx Jaguar]

I've got the CE, my box is different so yeah

[Onyx Jaguar]

Nope! She's in the middle picture with N7 armor as moonboots said

[Onyx Jaguar]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

I got the pc versions and ME2 is ce. I don't see it.

Its the ME 1 box that has femshep

[Suron]

not bothering to read any posts after my last one..but I want to reiterate (sp)...



MY shepard is MY canon..BioWares shepard is not MY canon...



that is all.

[enormousmoonboots]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

What difference does this make anyway?

The OP was arguing earlier that since there are no promotional images of female Shepard, Sheploo is 100% 'canon'. However, this image points out a contradiction in his statement; there is at least one image of female Shepard on the very box itself. This and the fact that all extra Mass Effect canon (books and comics) specifically avoid mentioning Shepard's gender point to the conclusion that, Sheploo advertising contract aside, Bioware has no intention of a 'canon' Shepard.

The picture is on the back of the ME1 box, top-middle. The one with Wrex.

[ChaosBahamut]

That's the beauty of the Mass Effect series. WE decide the ME canon for ourselves. So technically there is no official canon yet at the same time there are millions of official canons, as confusing as that may sound.

[ExtremeOne]

just because your Shepard or My Shepard live in a different Mass Effect world does not mean Bioware has to account for that in the Mass Effect comics. They have a right to tell the comics as they see fit with a cannon Commander Shepard

[ExtremeOne]

ChaosBahamut wrote...

That's the beauty of the Mass Effect series. WE decide the ME canon for ourselves. So technically there is no official canon yet at the same time there are millions of official canons, as confusing as that may sound.

  


I disagree with that Bioware would be stupid not to have a Mass Effect bible that lays out the true story of Commander Shepard 

[rabbitchannel]

I thought this was common knowledge. And I don't see why people are debating against this. Firstly, it doesn't matter to the player, personally, what the canon Shepard does and doesn't do because each player is running through ME with a custom Shepard. The canon Shepard doesn't affect your Shepard in anyway. Second, there is no MY canon or YOUR canon. Canon is canon. This reminds me of debating creationists when they say, "It doesn't matter what you say or what you believe. I believe in what I believe and that it is true for me". It's either a truth or not a truth. It's not subjective. There is no special dimension or secluded pocket of existence where something holds true especially for you.

Modifié par rabbitchannel, 13 mars 2010 - 10:45 .

[Exile Isan]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

I got the pc versions and ME2 is ce. I don't see it.

I have both PC and 360 versions. Said picture is only on the 360 version. Which is, if you want to get technical, the original version of the cover art.

[Whereto]

I think if any book should be written on sheapard it should be the "canon"shepard cause thereis to many veriations to make the character believeable if done other wise.....but as far as those being wrong they are just other players interprtations of him so they are all good

[DiatribeEQ]

Just because we play our Shepard the way we were not only allowed to (but ultimately did), doesn't mean that's how Bioware's internal canon/lore of the series was intended to be. That's how flexible they are with the player base. They're more than willing to let us, experience the game as we see fit. But there are still limits in which they say "These are the lines, no matter how you play it, whether it's with our canon, or your own version of ours, you will not cross." Honestly, I find it funny that folks will take offense that the way they might play the game isn't exactly how Bioware intended it to be.