Does this have any noticeable effect in ME2? Different dialogue etc?
Pushing Garrus towards Paragon or Renegade in ME1
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Posté 13 mars 2010 - 09:56
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No, Garrus goes pretty much renegade in ME2 regardless. I actually think that is an improvement because I had little but contempt for him being such a pushover in ME1 through dialog. He actually has a spine in ME2 without being completely ruthless and without completely disregarding the paragons.
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Posté 13 mars 2010 - 10:09
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Depending on how the situation with Dr. Saleon went in the first game Garrus will mention it during his loyalty mission.
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Posté 13 mars 2010 - 10:10
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It seems to be an ongoing thing with Garrus though as you have the option to end his ME2 loyalty mission peacefully too.
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Posté 13 mars 2010 - 10:14
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Even my Paragon Shepards have killed in the two Garrus missions. It's not like his targets are morally ambiguous figures- the galaxy is better off without them, particularly Saleon.
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Posté 13 mars 2010 - 10:15
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Destructo-Bot wrote...
No, Garrus goes pretty much renegade in ME2 regardless. I actually think that is an improvement because I had little but contempt for him being such a pushover in ME1 through dialog. He actually has a spine in ME2 without being completely ruthless and without completely disregarding the paragons.
Ha! I heard you can make make him rethink his attitude towards Sidonis, in about five minutes after you let him get away, without Garrus's consent... I wouldn't call that "having a spine".
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Posté 13 mars 2010 - 10:16
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I never even knew he COULD be Paragon or Renegade. I thought he was just Garrugade or something.
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Posté 13 mars 2010 - 08:11
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RigAudio wrote...
I never even knew he COULD be Paragon or Renegade. I thought he was just Garrugade or something.
He is pretty much.
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Posté 13 mars 2010 - 08:19
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anorling wrote...
Does this have any noticeable effect in ME2? Different dialogue etc?
His dialogue does change slightly during his loyalty mission to acknowledge that Shepard pushed him one way or the other during ME1.
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Posté 13 mars 2010 - 08:24
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RigAudio wrote...
Garrugade
Sound like a new flavor of gatorade...I'd totally buy it...
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Posté 13 mars 2010 - 08:45
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Zulu_DFA wrote...
Destructo-Bot wrote...
No, Garrus goes pretty much renegade in ME2 regardless. I actually think that is an improvement because I had little but contempt for him being such a pushover in ME1 through dialog. He actually has a spine in ME2 without being completely ruthless and without completely disregarding the paragons.
Ha! I heard you can make make him rethink his attitude towards Sidonis, in about five minutes after you let him get away, without Garrus's consent... I wouldn't call that "having a spine".
'Spineless' seems like a very unfair way of putting it. After all, the dude took on three estabilshed Merc groups by himself so he could feel he was making the galaxy a better place. I actually think it's harder for Garrus NOT to kill in both his loyalty missions - killing is the easy solution, letting them walk away in the name of 'justice' is harder. I always feel slightly bad talking him out of it, but let's face it - Garrus has got issues, and Shepard is the only person with judgement he can trust. When you let Sidonus go and talk Garrus down Garrus says "I know you want to talk about this. I'm not ready to." (paraphrase). Clearly, it was a hard kill to walk away from, but in the end he knows 'justice' takes many forms. Also, he is Batman.
Threre is no massive change to the way the Sidonus mission plays out if you let him kill the Salerian before, but he mentions it in passing dialogue. If you killed him in ME1, he says something like "you are one who showed me killing was the way", and if you let him live he says something like "I know it's not what you'd do, but I'm not you."
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Posté 13 mars 2010 - 08:48
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EarthboundRob wrote...
Depending on how the situation with Dr. Saleon went in the first game Garrus will mention it during his loyalty mission.
Exactly what is he meant to say? Because I've done his personal mission, paragon. Yes he came a long and we had the talk about how there were other ways to do things. Then I paragoned my way out of his mission in ME2...is there something specific he is meant to mention that relates back to ME1 and Dr Creepy?
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Posté 13 mars 2010 - 08:56
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Zulu_DFA wrote...
Destructo-Bot wrote...
No, Garrus goes pretty much renegade in ME2 regardless. I actually think that is an improvement because I had little but contempt for him being such a pushover in ME1 through dialog. He actually has a spine in ME2 without being completely ruthless and without completely disregarding the paragons.
Ha! I heard you can make make him rethink his attitude towards Sidonis, in about five minutes after you let him get away, without Garrus's consent... I wouldn't call that "having a spine".
You can't let Dr. Saleon get away. If you do, he pulls out a gun, and you kill him in self defense. So Garrus gets his revenge, but he can still respect your principles.
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Posté 16 mars 2010 - 08:36
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I'm hoping that Garrus is affected by how you mentored him in ME3...but at the same time, it'd be strange or there would be some maneuvering involved if you turned him paragon yet he still wanted to kill Sidonis outright in ME2. Oh, and the whole merc band thing.
