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[chiliztri]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

chiliztri wrote...

Omg...that's epic Rubbish!

Personally, I wouldn't mind if Bio made a Vampire: The Masquerade game. Too bad that universe imploded, Gehenna and all that...

I wonder if they could make a good RPG out of Vampire: The Requiem...

NO definately not no way no how, I am quite sick to death of the sparkly emo vampire craze that has somehow become popular after the release of Twighlight. All we see now days are stories about emo vampire teenagers who fall in love with mortals, the Vampire Diaries, Twighlight ect. 

I feel it is time to let the sparkly emo vampire craze die and move on to more original ideas like gay Mummies who try to come to terms with their homosexual urges.

Um...do you have any clue what Vampire: The Masquerade or Vampire: The Requiem actually are? Before you jump to conclusions you should research the topics you are about to discuss. VtM and VtR are pen & paper RPGs by White Wolf, VtM first being published in 1991. Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines is a computer RPG that takes place in the VtM universe. It was utterly brilliant, and since it's release I've been craving another dark modern fantasy game like it.

I don't understand why you're automatically assuming that anything with vampires has to do with Twilight? That is far from the truth. It seems like you just came into this topic, saw I wrote something about vampires, and nerdraged as to why Twilight and "sparkly emo vampires" suck.

I may like the Twilight books, but my wanting a vampire RPG has nothing to do with Twilight or any current fads going on with vampires.

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

chiliztri wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

chiliztri wrote...

Omg...that's epic Rubbish!

Personally, I wouldn't mind if Bio made a Vampire: The Masquerade game. Too bad that universe imploded, Gehenna and all that...

I wonder if they could make a good RPG out of Vampire: The Requiem...

NO definately not no way no how, I am quite sick to death of the sparkly emo vampire craze that has somehow become popular after the release of Twighlight. All we see now days are stories about emo vampire teenagers who fall in love with mortals, the Vampire Diaries, Twighlight ect. 

I feel it is time to let the sparkly emo vampire craze die and move on to more original ideas like gay Mummies who try to come to terms with their homosexual urges.

Um...do you have any clue what Vampire: The Masquerade or Vampire: The Requiem actually are? Before you jump to conclusions you should research the topics you are about to discuss. VtM and VtR are pen & paper RPGs by White Wolf, VtM first being published in 1991. Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines is a computer RPG that takes place in the VtM universe. It was utterly brilliant, and since it's release I've been craving another dark modern fantasy game like it.

I don't understand why you're automatically assuming that anything with vampires has to do with Twilight? That is far from the truth. It seems like you just came into this topic, saw I wrote something about vampires, and nerdraged as to why Twilight and "sparkly emo vampires" suck.

I may like the Twilight books, but my wanting a vampire RPG has nothing to do with Twilight or any current fads going on with vampires.

Yes I know what Vampire the Masquerade is (though I will admit I dont really know what Vampire: The Requiem is, but then I dont really care) and I was making a joke so there is no reason to get up in arms.

I have played Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines and I know that it is not like Twighlight, but while I will say that the game was alright (not the great game the fans make it out to be though, it was really more of a poor mans Deus Ex) I must say that what I saw of the Vampire the Masquerade universe from the Bloodlines game diddnt really interest me and I dont really think it would be worth Bioware getting the rights to the IP and creating a new game.

But all of that aside I am quite sick of modern day Vampire themed movies and games and even though Vampire the Masquerade is not like Twighlight I am sure that if sombody did decide to make a game within the Masquerade universe we would probably see with Twighlight being the popular theme nowadays a slight sparkly emo vampire influence sneak into the game.


However I might like to see an old school style vampire theme like Dracula or Castlevania make its return.

Modifié par Gandalf-the-Fabulous, 14 mars 2010 - 09:54 .

[Seagloom]

In all honesty, dark as Bloodlines was it skimmed the surface of how truly vile and horrific that setting can be. I didn't know much about Masquerade until after playing Bloodlines, but have tried to keep up a bit with Requiem when I can. It's about as gritty and depressing as a modern game can get. The whole World of Darkness has a palpable feeling of hopelessness to it, and the worst things you can imagine happening to people in real life are probably detailed in some random NPC's backstory.

Bloodlines, from what little I do know of Masquerade... had several inaccurate representations and tended to sugarcoat the worst aspects of vampire life for the sake of gameplay. The writing was iffy from that perspective too. It amazes me they bothered to shoehorn Sabbat into the plot without showing how nasty they can really be. The Tzimisce elder only kinda sorta came close to hinting at it with his creations. It was way too easy to get blood, for instance, and the hunger for it, as well as the Beast, wasn't really done justice. I think Heather's story is the only good example of how kindred ruin virtually anyone they come in contact with, regardless of their intentions, in the whole game... and that was still handled with all the subtlety of a hammer to the face. In my opinion it's one of the few legitimate horror P&P horror settings in both overt and inbvious ways.

I wouldn't want BioWare to take on a WoD game, if only because it'd probably be even farther off. I don't want to see a Hunter rehash with RPG elements strewn in.

Modifié par Seagloom, 14 mars 2010 - 01:23 .

[melkathi]

Smurfs: The Blue Reckoning.

[Seagloom]

melkathi wrote...

Smurfs: The Blue Reckoning.

Indeed. Gargamel has it coming. The muffin.

Modifié par Seagloom, 14 mars 2010 - 01:25 .

[druplesnubb]

How about a fantasy setting that isn't like Tolkien AT ALL. Something completely unique and original. Preferably with creatures so weird they makes the guys from Super Mario and Kirby games seem normal.

[Arbiter Libera]

Seagloom wrote...

In all honesty, dark as Bloodlines was it skimmed the surface of how truly vile and horrific that setting can be. I didn't know much about Masquerade until after playing Bloodlines, but have tried to keep up a bit with Requiem when I can. It's about as gritty and depressing as a modern game can get. The whole World of Darkness has a palpable feeling of hopelessness to it, and the worst things you can imagine happening to people in real life are probably detailed in some random NPC's backstory.

Nah, Requiem  as a whole is almost Carebear land compared to Masquerade, partially because it's modular or "sandbox" approach to things leaves only general mood as a guideline when it comes to setting theme and identity... without going into overt details. Not to mention it somewhat lacks that old "whole world is grim and dark, there's no escape" global approach to things, or at least it's not as strong as it was in Masquerade (to me at least). Not saying it's better or worse, just different.

Sure. certain factions ARE monstruous (like Belial's Brood and some bloodlines) and some old concepts are retained and combined for ease, but on the whole Requem is lighter than Masquerade where you were literary f*cked up no matter which game line you played. Vampire? Antediluvians, your Clan's great-great-great-great grandfathers are breathing down your neck (oh, pun) and waiting to bleed you dry when they wake up from Torpor eventually. Werewolf? Freaking Ragnarok endgame to look forward to. Similar scenarios exist for other gamelines as well (Mage, etc).

But... I babble.

Modifié par Arbiter Libera, 14 mars 2010 - 02:01 .

[Seagloom]

Ah, well this is a case of ignorance on my part then. I missed Masquerade entirely. By the time Bloodlines opened my eyes to it Gehenna was rolling around. If it's drearier than Requiem then... damn. That's all I can say. It explains why one of my friends cherishes it and hates Requiem though. She also feels that way about the two versions of Changeling.

[Arbiter Libera]

Seagloom wrote...

Ah, well this is a case of ignorance on my part then. I missed Masquerade entirely. By the time Bloodlines opened my eyes to it Gehenna was rolling around. If it's drearier than Requiem then... damn. That's all I can say. It explains why one of my friends cherishes it and hates Requiem though. She also feels that way about the two versions of Changeling.

Oh, Changeling's a whole different story because nWoD version of it is actually superior and grimmer than the old one. Seriously, I had to double check it was Changeling when I first tried it with my group. Much darker, alien and just plain disturbing if your ST plays it right.

VanguardOfDestruction wrote...

Does anyone remember that
Star Wars Bounty Hunter game...the one where you were stricly him and
no one else? You just basically sneak around and kill people...

BioWare should remake that, incorporate some RPG elements in to it, AND make it not suck....that would be awesome!

That was yet another SW game that never got off the ground as series, along with Republic Commando which was awesome. I liked it.

Modifié par Arbiter Libera, 14 mars 2010 - 02:17 .

[Seagloom]

I'll have to look it up then. The first Changeling interested me greatly. I'm a huge fan of all things faerie and sidhe, and an RPG based around it intrigued me. Buuut, like VtM I missed the train on it. From what little I saw of Changeling the Lost it was interesting. Finding books around here is hard though and I'm hesitant to buy it online without so much as a preview.

[Arbiter Libera]

Seagloom wrote...

I'll have to look it up then. The
first Changeling interested me greatly. I'm a huge fan of all things
faerie and sidhe, and an RPG based around it intrigued me. Buuut, like
VtM I missed the train on it. From what little I saw of Changeling the
Lost it was interesting. Finding books around here is hard though and
I'm hesitant to buy it online without so much as a preview.

Check White Wolf's homepage, they almost always have demos and previews/scenarios PDFs of their gamelines.
www.white-wolf.com/changeling/index.php

Modifié par Arbiter Libera, 14 mars 2010 - 02:27 .

[SithLordExarKun]

Mass Of Effect : Prothean Warfare

[druplesnubb]

How about a completely turn based game for a change?

[Arbiter Libera]

druplesnubb wrote...

How about a completely turn based game for a change?

I think TBG pretty much went off the "mainstream radar" quite some time ago, so I doubt EA would give BioWare it's blessing on such an endevour.

Modifié par Arbiter Libera, 14 mars 2010 - 05:27 .

[Phantom_1]

I personaly would love to see something different and that would be western rpg game since all other genres been heavily exploited by now (fantasy, scifi, futuristic, horror) and with experience and creativity of Bioware writters i think they are able to do it.

[Statulos]

chiliztri wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

chiliztri wrote...

Omg...that's epic Rubbish!

Personally, I wouldn't mind if Bio made a Vampire: The Masquerade game. Too bad that universe imploded, Gehenna and all that...

I wonder if they could make a good RPG out of Vampire: The Requiem...

NO definately not no way no how, I am quite sick to death of the sparkly emo vampire craze that has somehow become popular after the release of Twighlight. All we see now days are stories about emo vampire teenagers who fall in love with mortals, the Vampire Diaries, Twighlight ect. 

I feel it is time to let the sparkly emo vampire craze die and move on to more original ideas like gay Mummies who try to come to terms with their homosexual urges.

Um...do you have any clue what Vampire: The Masquerade or Vampire: The Requiem actually are? Before you jump to conclusions you should research the topics you are about to discuss. VtM and VtR are pen & paper RPGs by White Wolf, VtM first being published in 1991. Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines is a computer RPG that takes place in the VtM universe. It was utterly brilliant, and since it's release I've been craving another dark modern fantasy game like it.

I don't understand why you're automatically assuming that anything with vampires has to do with Twilight? That is far from the truth. It seems like you just came into this topic, saw I wrote something about vampires, and nerdraged as to why Twilight and "sparkly emo vampires" suck.

I may like the Twilight books, but my wanting a vampire RPG has nothing to do with Twilight or any current fads going on with vampires.

In a nutshell: Celerity 3 + Potence 3. (Yes, Burning Wrath).

I used to play with Brujah (True Brujah most of the times) and Baali. I´m sure the second comes at no surprise.

[Allison W]

I find myself wondering what the result would be if BioWare were brought in to play a major developmental role in a new Mother game, side-scrolling SotN-style Castlevania, or the next Fable. Ideally keeping BioWare's usual trademarks, like romances (not just for straight people), player-designed protagonists (though likely from a predetermined background), serious moral choices and consequences, etc. even when they'd be new to the setting (all of the above would be new to Mother and Castlevania).

I imagine that the result would be pretty amazing in any case, but I'm honestly trying to imagine what it'd look like.

Modifié par Allison W, 15 mars 2010 - 04:34 .

[RobUnreal]

They should go corny and make a superhero themed game. Nothing like a single player City of Heroes to make you pull your hair out.

[Lowenhart]

Would be interesting to see them do some work along side with Clive Barker, and make a innovative horror genre rpg, seeing as they done both Japanese kungfu with Jade Empire, Roleplaying games like NWN and Dragon Age, Scifi with mass Effect.

Be awesome to see them dwell a bit in the horror genre maybe as some said with vampires or paranormal, and think anything they would do if they could persuade Clive Barker to join in on would end innovative for the genre and turn out Epic.

[Seagloom]

Statulos wrote...

In a nutshell: Celerity 3 + Potence 3. (Yes, Burning Wrath).

I used to play with Brujah (True Brujah most of the times) and Baali. I´m sure the second comes at no surprise.

True Brujah? With Temporis? I thought True Brujah could not access Celerity at any rate. I had no idea you were a munchkin, Statulos. I never got to play a proper VtM game, sadly. I'm not at all familiar with the Baali either beyond their name. I *think* they had something to do with demons, if memory serves. Ah well, c'est la vie.

Modifié par Seagloom, 15 mars 2010 - 12:30 .

[Statulos]

Seagloom wrote...

Statulos wrote...

In a nutshell: Celerity 3 + Potence 3. (Yes, Burning Wrath).

I used to play with Brujah (True Brujah most of the times) and Baali. I´m sure the second comes at no surprise.

True Brujah? With Temporis? I thought True Brujah could not access Celerity at any rate. I had no idea you were a munchkin, Statulos. I never got to play a proper VtM game, sadly. I'm not at all familiar with the Baali either beyond their name. I *think* they had something to do with demons, if memory serves. Ah well, c'est la vie.

Depends on narrator, honestly. There is no specific rule saying so, but in my comunity we considered celerity a "bastardized" version of temporis though we allowed the use of it combined with other disciplines if it reached lever five. (Temporis at level 5 granted extra full action; not just phisiclal; stuff like 3 couldrons of blood in a round).

The Baali, to sumarize a lot, are the "infernalist" bloodline (not even clan, since the founder is not clear, maybe Ashur, maybe Saulot, maybe Enoina) who wants to bring back the "Lords Below". At least apparently, of course. There are far more interesting things going on in the clan. 

Modifié par Statulos, 15 mars 2010 - 04:09 .

[Time Spiral]

... maybe a "jump" button + <INSERT ANY GAME HERE>?