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[Atmosfear3]

After seeing the CryEngine 3 demos from GDC, it occurred to me this would be a perfect engine to replace UnrealEngine considering how dated it is.  Looking at the demos, ME3 could greatly benefit from the improved lighting, facial technology, physics, and malleable environments (i.e. destructible covers, deformation, etc).

Has BW ever considered switching engines?  Obviously switching to a new engine would more than likely delay the release of ME3, but it could deliver an experience unlike any we've seen yet for future titles.

[Chala]

if what I heard is true bioware already made the engine for ME3 so they can focus in the game itself

[flipdc5]

Not only will it delay the release date for ME3 but will also widen the gap on pc requirement. Bioware wants to maximize the amount of sales on pc by lowering the specs so more people can play.

[Saetanigera]

Mass Effect is one of the prettiest titles for the XBOX that I've played. A new engine would significantly lengthen how long it will be to the next game and seems unnecessary. ME1->ME2 was an overhaul. From what I've read, they plan to build ME3 as a more complete version of ME2 now that they've polished the base combat system.

[SaranBlade]

Don't bet on it - as awesome as it would look, it would be a _pricey_ engine for BioWare to use, and it would, as was stated, jack up the PC requirements.

[addiction21]

Atmosfear3 wrote...

After seeing the CryEngine 3 demos from GDC, it occurred to me this would be a perfect engine to replace UnrealEngine considering how dated it is.  Looking at the demos, ME3 could greatly benefit from the improved lighting, facial technology, physics, and malleable environments (i.e. destructible covers, deformation, etc).

Has BW ever considered switching engines?  Obviously switching to a new engine would more than likely delay the release of ME3, but it could deliver an experience unlike any we've seen yet for future titles.

Shiny is not importent.

[D.I.Y_Death]

flipdc5 wrote...

Not only will it delay the release date for ME3 but will also widen the gap on pc requirement. Bioware wants to maximize the amount of sales on pc by lowering the specs so more people can play.

And right now the ME series is fairly scalable, even video cards that are below spec can play Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 (ME2 isn't as scalable though so expect to turn down or turn off every setting) can play as long as their rig has enough overall juice to compensate for a crappy video card and the video card has support for the proper T+L and shader versions.

A switch to the Cry3 engine would definitely make mass effect look amazing but at the cost of a lot of gamers who can't afford uber rigs to run an uber game.

Verdict: bad decision to switch engines from a marketing perspective.

[GreenSoda]

SaranBlade wrote...

Don't bet on it - as awesome as it would look, it would be a _pricey_ engine for BioWare to use, and it would, as was stated, jack up the PC requirements.

Not if they choose to ignore the capacity of the pc platfrom and simply slap the consoles assets & textures 1:1 onto the pc. Like they did with the low-res ME2 textures.

No matter, though. BW won't change engines for ME3. That would be more than stupid. They are already used to working with UE, have all their tools and experience.
Imagine what it would take BW to start from the ground up with the CryEngine. It would delay the game a year or so and for what ? ~5% more shiny graphics on already maxed out consoles ?

Modifié par GreenSoda, 14 mars 2010 - 01:07 .

[kregano]

I'd rather let Bioware finish the ME trilogy with Unreal Engine 3 than have them switch to a new engine during the early phases of ME3's development.

[ForrestB]

Pretty sure Bioware already stated that no major changes to the engine will be made for ME3. And isn't a 2011 release date already planned...



CE3 is awesome though. Can't wait for Crysis 2...

[xDarkicex]

crytek engine would look amazing but it would increase system req a ton and bioware wants people to be able to play ME3 on the same computer they could play ME1 on so Crytek = a No go though it would look amazing.

[D.I.Y_Death]

xDarkicex wrote...

crytek engine would look amazing but it would increase system req a ton and bioware wants people to be able to play ME3 on the same computer they could play ME1 on so Crytek = a No go though it would look amazing.

I could see it being used for something like a Mass Effect 6 since by then the engine they're using will be outdated and everyone should have better computer components by then. Unless the engine they're using right now isn't even close to being maxed out.

[TristanTheReaper]

CryEngine 3 would be cool!!! Unreal engine is totally outdated. Plus CryEngine 3 is superior German technology.

[addiction21]

TristanTheReaper wrote...

CryEngine 3 would be cool!!! Unreal engine is totally outdated. Plus CryEngine 3 is superior German technology.

Translation: I do not care how the game plays I JUST WANT TO SEE SHINY!!!!!! Let me guess... you thought cyrsis was a good game?

I will also be ****ing when I can not play it on the console/pc I currently own and do not want to drop 300$ + to upgrade....

[FlyingWalrus]

No.

[kregano]

addiction21 wrote...

TristanTheReaper wrote...

CryEngine 3 would be cool!!! Unreal engine is totally outdated. Plus CryEngine 3 is superior German technology.

Translation: I do not care how the game plays I JUST WANT TO SEE SHINY!!!!!! Let me guess... you thought cyrsis was a good game?

I will also be ****ing when I can not play it on the console/pc I currently own and do not want to drop 300$ + to upgrade....

CryEngine 3 works on consoles. Crysis 2 is for PC/Xbox 360/PS3.

[ForrestB]

scyphozoa wrote...

not for ME3, but maybe for another title in the future. i definitely prefer cry over unreal as a gamer.

edit - i see a lot of people saying cry would require expensive pc upgrades. i think people underestimate what cry can do on mid-range machines.

I agree. When you consider the size of the levels in Crysis, the amount of objects loaded into the level, the advanced physics/rendering and all of the post-processing effects, CryEngine performs really well. Playing at 1920x1200 on medium/high mixed settings on an 8800GT (read: outdated system) is pretty damn good if you ask me..

Consider how much smaller the levels in Mass Effect are. Mass Effect is a very pretty game, but mostly because of the artistic design and effort spent into post-processing, screen effects, lighting and ambience. If you strip that eye-candy away, you have simple level design with relatively low-poly models and low-resolution textures. And if you consider that much of the eye-candy effects mentioned above are done automatically by CryEngine (especially lighting/shading), I think you might even see a drop in minimum requirements if Mass Effect was recreated on the CryEngine.

But, I like the continuity that comes with using the same engine for all three titles. Mass Effect is a gorgeous game and I don't see any reason why they would want to transfer over to a new engine. Extra work and I don't think anything would really change except a loss of Mass Effects unique mood and likely a very delayed release.

Modifié par ForrestB, 14 mars 2010 - 03:30 .

[xDarkicex]

CryTek 3 engine Is highly optimized when compared to Crytek 2 engine It will run on lower spec computers, ME3 could use it if we where willing to wait tell 2012-2013 for it to be done most modern computers now can play Cysis war head and Crysis 2 using crytek 3 engine should preform close to the same as war head if not better according too crysis dev team.

But in reality they are using UT3 engine which is fine because It is a fine engine and they made ME2 work way better on UT engine compared to ME1 so we should see and increase in ME3 a well.

[ebola9717]

The current engine is fine. Changing it now would delay ME3 for God knows how long. We need the last game out before Microsoft puts out the next Xbox. The chances that Microsoft would let you transfer saves from the 360 to the next platform are slim, and that would completely screw up the series.

[defunkti]

I couldn't care less about some graphical improvements.

[AngryFrozenWater]

For any future title BioWare should use a better engine than the outdated current one, simply because they are now prying in the territory of shooter games. Customers of PC shooter games expect State of the Art graphics and more or less frown upon anything less. If BioWare takes this route than they have to face the consequences. Crytek/EA currently has the most advanced games engine available to date that works for all BioWare's target platforms. Let's hope they are going to use it. CryEngine 3 also performs much better than the previous one, so the bad performance argument is taken care of.

[TristanTheReaper]

defunkti wrote...
I couldn't care less about some graphical improvements.

Cool. Than you might wanna play "Leather Goddesses of Phobos". The AI is pretty much the same - just no graphics.