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#26
KnightofPhoenix

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If only people knew how many times Fereale had to write the same thing over and over again. What she, and many others including myself are asking is not really hard to grasp. We want the decisions and conseqences to carry over.

To bring in on-topic, I am positive this is not Mr Gaider's fault. He said time and time again that many content had to be cut from Origins because of constraints and that made him sad. So the same applied to Awakening, due to its much smaller budget. If it was completly up to him, he would have handled the US ending very differently.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

If only people knew how many times Fereale had to write the same thing over and over again. What she, and many others including myself are asking is not really hard to grasp. We want the decisions and conseqences to carry over.

To bring in on-topic, I am positive this is not Mr Gaider's fault. He said time and time again that many content had to be cut from Origins because of constraints and that made him sad. So the same applied to Awakening, due to its much smaller budget. If it was completly up to him, he would have handled the US ending very differently.


I agree I think Mr Gaider was under the impression that all endings would have their decisions ported over.   Its a technical thing..and not a writer thing.  :)  Pretty much out of his hands.

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Impressive, a border line creepy stalker thread has somehow manged to turn into another US debate thread in under 10 posts.

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Impressive, a border line creepy stalker thread has somehow manged to turn into another US debate thread in under 10 posts.


Actually, I'm both!

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

To bring in on-topic, I am positive this is not Mr Gaider's fault. He said time and time again that many content had to be cut from Origins because of constraints and that made him sad. So the same applied to Awakening, due to its much smaller budget. If it was completly up to him, he would have handled the US ending very differently.


Its quite a shame how limited a writer's creativity has to be when restricted by both financial and time constraints. This game, or any other game of similiar stature, would be very different if Bioware was given total freedom of resources, I'd think. I can't imagine what Gaider would have wanted the continuity of the Ultimate Sacrifice without any strings attached to be.

Not to intentionally digress or anything, but I've never really understood why people who get themselves into the gaming business often find themselves to be less passionate about actually playing games than they used to before they decided to join the industry. I'm just going to guess its the restraints on creative freedom that plays a part in such a thing. This is when it all comes down to it a piece of art, after all.

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distinguetraces wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...
Impressive, a border line creepy stalker thread has somehow manged to turn into another US debate thread in under 10 posts.


Actually, I'm both!


LOL

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Jack Anvil wrote...

If I saw you in real life, I'd kiss you right on the mouth.


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Sresla wrote...

Jack Anvil wrote...

If I saw you in real life, I'd kiss you right on the mouth.


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I would ask about the choice of that particular number..but not gonna ..:D

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Jack Anvil wrote...
I know you are lurking around these forums somewhere, and I just wanted to open a brief topic about how much I've enjoyed the Dragon Age setting thus far.
From the strict rules of the Chantry, to the wandering Dalish clans, to the creepy, claustrophobic labyrinth that is the Deep Roads -- I love it all.
If I saw you in real life, I'd kiss you right on the mouth.

Wow. How awkward. :blink:

P.S. I'm really looking forward to[i] Awakening.

Well it's not a total waste, then.

Feraele wrote...
Pretty much out of his hands.

Pretty much, yep.

Modifié par David Gaider, 14 mars 2010 - 06:53 .


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See David? Now you're too famous! Let me get you something to help you going out in the street in safety ^_^



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David Gaider wrote...

Jack Anvil wrote...
I know you are lurking around these forums somewhere, and I just wanted to open a brief topic about how much I've enjoyed the Dragon Age setting thus far.
From the strict rules of the Chantry, to the wandering Dalish clans, to the creepy, claustrophobic labyrinth that is the Deep Roads -- I love it all.
If I saw you in real life, I'd kiss you right on the mouth.

Wow. How awkward. :blink:

P.S. I'm really looking forward to Awakening.

Well it's not a total waste, then.

Feraele wrote...
Pretty much out of his hands.

Pretty much, yep.


Oh, wow--you responded. Look at us, [i]bonding
!

Modifié par Jack Anvil, 14 mars 2010 - 07:10 .


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Run, David, RUN!!! I'll hold him off as long as possible, but my shields won't last forever!

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Onyx Jaguar

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Wait... Let me get a picture...

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holy sucking up batman

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Run David run for your life!! GET TO THE CHOPPER!!!!!

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David, I think it's obvious that what you really need to do is to start writing some really crappy stuff. Maybe then this kind of thing would happen less often.

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Feraele wrote...

Sresla wrote...

Jack Anvil wrote...

If I saw you in real life, I'd kiss you right on the mouth.


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I would ask about the choice of that particular number..but not gonna ..:D


It's a sex thing.

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

Feraele wrote...

Sresla wrote...

Jack Anvil wrote...

If I saw you in real life, I'd kiss you right on the mouth.


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I would ask about the choice of that particular number..but not gonna ..:D


It's a sex thing.


No ****, Sherlock

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I think maybe some modder out there will figure out how to mod the game to import save files with a US ending. The developers already mentioned in that streaming vid demo that they kinda expect someone to mod in Sandal. So, I take that as they are most likely going to continue to assist the community in modding with their DA toolset.

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Count Viceroy wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Feraele wrote...

Sresla wrote...

Jack Anvil wrote...

If I saw you in real life, I'd kiss you right on the mouth.


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I would ask about the choice of that particular number..but not gonna ..:D


It's a sex thing.


No ****, Sherlock


LOL... nuff said

Modifié par Crevasse, 14 mars 2010 - 09:38 .


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Feraele wrote...


I want what the rest of the story endings get...my decisions and choices porting over to Awakening..just like  yours will.  

I want continuity...if you don't understand that word..use a dictionary.

I don't want plot holes........we have one here with the US ending.

I want what was promised me..at the end,  an honourable burial at Weisshaupt...after all I DID do my duty.

I also want the statue in my honour,  I also want that..if Alistair was king..that it shows that he still is..when I access Awakening.

I want my decisions for that 83 hour play-through to matter. 


Thats all...just want what the rest of you are getting...nothing different. :)


I must admit I dont quite get it, you expected to be able to play through awakening on a zombie warden char?=P
Or do you mean that if you choose to play with an orlesian warden you want your origins chars sacrifice to be noted?

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Jack Anvil wrote...

Is it too much to ask that I be able to express my desire to kiss David Gaider -- in a totally heterosexual way -- without all of this verbal cross-fire?


and thus David (Ninja)Gaider(sigma 2) never returned to the forums, some say he's fled to Europe living in a vila in Italy, some say he resides out in the yellowstone forest, hidden in a cave with bigfoot while a few speculate he hides under his bed with a taser primed & ready just in case

Modifié par Kail Ashton, 14 mars 2010 - 10:55 .


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See David? Now you're too famous! Let me get you something to help you going out in the street in safety ^_^

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Lol @ Himmy...I REALLY think you should go into the greeting card business...."a picture for every occasion"  hehehe

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Dokarqt wrote...

Feraele wrote...


I want what the rest of the story endings get...my decisions and choices porting over to Awakening..just like  yours will.  

I want continuity...if you don't understand that word..use a dictionary.

I don't want plot holes........we have one here with the US ending.

I want what was promised me..at the end,  an honourable burial at Weisshaupt...after all I DID do my duty.

I also want the statue in my honour,  I also want that..if Alistair was king..that it shows that he still is..when I access Awakening.

I want my decisions for that 83 hour play-through to matter. 


Thats all...just want what the rest of you are getting...nothing different. :)


I must admit I dont quite get it, you expected to be able to play through awakening on a zombie warden char?=P
Or do you mean that if you choose to play with an orlesian warden you want your origins chars sacrifice to be noted?


No...read what I said again.   I want the original decision to carry over...such as who was king/queen....but leave my Warden DEAD.  hehe  

I have said this so many times in so many different ways..to clarify..and still can't seem to get the message across.  :P

I'm an artist I "could" draw pictures...I guess.

What I and others like me want..is a sort of legacy transfer of information...from the dead warden to the living Orlesian.   Like background history.     The original warden stays dead,   the Orlesian warden takes over from his predecessor...keeping in mind that the predecessor sacrificed his/her life to save everyone from the Blight..as good wardens are "supposed to do".

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Feraele wrote...

Dokarqt wrote...

I must admit I dont quite get it, you expected to be able to play through awakening on a zombie warden char?=P
Or do you mean that if you choose to play with an orlesian warden you want your origins chars sacrifice to be noted?


No...read what I said again.   I want the original decision to carry over...such as who was king/queen....but leave my Warden DEAD.  hehe  

I have said this so many times in so many different ways..to clarify..and still can't seem to get the message across.  :P

I'm an artist I "could" draw pictures...I guess.

What I and others like me want..is a sort of legacy transfer of information...from the dead warden to the living Orlesian.   Like background history.     The original warden stays dead,   the Orlesian warden takes over from his predecessor...keeping in mind that the predecessor sacrificed his/her life to save everyone from the Blight..as good wardens are "supposed to do".


Isn't that I said in the second sentence? That you would want your origin chars decisions and actions (including the sacrifice) to be acknowledged when you're playing as an orlesian warden?