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[LakeshowAD1986]

I'm hoping every squad mate returns in some way, in that if you played the game to save everyone you have all ME2 characters (maby minus Zaeed etc.) plus Ash/Kaiden and maybe Liara. If you screwed around and got a lot of people killed then you'll suffer with having a smaller squad number.

[Collider]

Sounds great to me.

[Collider]

Tali and Legion can be squad mates that add something special to certain missions if they're alive.

[keegdarv1]

Collider wrote...

Tali and Legion can be squad mates that add something special to certain missions if they're alive.

I could say the same about any person thats been a squadmate in ME1 or ME2 cause the facts are we dont know much about ME3 and what will be important.

what if the alliance is the focus, the Ash or Kadien are importan

what if thiers more cerberus stuff then Miranda and Jacob are important

what and the krogan then Wrex and Grunt are important

so on and so on, anyone could be important  and add something special to certain missions but again we dont know yet

[Collider]

I don't see why they couldn't be long term squad mates. Most of the things they say on missions that don't pertain to them are minor - take characters on loyalty and recruitment missions that aren't theirs in ME2 and they only say one liners. But in missions that pertain to them, they say a lot and are important. There's no reason why Bioware can't do that in ME3.

[KironDrayga]

Realistically speaking, there are really only two squadmates in ME2 that I think fans would go ballistic if they weren't squadmates in ME3, and that's Tali and Garrus. I don't think Bioware would be too hard-pressed to find ways to include those two, and everyone knows ME3 would suffer horribly without them.



Of course there's also the ME1 mainstays, and it already sounds like Bioware has a decent plan to include everyone except (possibly) Wrex. Liara is the only ME1 character guaranteed to survive through ME1 and I'd be shocked if she wasn't a squadmate. Bioware has openly stated that Kaiden or Ashley will at least appear in ME3 and have a greater role than in ME2. I actually wouldn't be offended if they didn't return as squadmates, they could return as an Alliance affiliated NPC who coordinated missions with you, even provide MGS-Codec style support. But I wouldn't be shocked if they did return as squadmates, as Ashley and Kaiden could have largely interchangeable dialogue, a similar recruitment mission, and would appear for opposite-gender Shepards for those who didn't even play ME1.



As for the other characters:



Jack, Miranda and Jacob are all fairly likely to come back, since they're love interests and all, but I wouldn't hold them as priorities. The consensus was Jacob was boring, Miranda was shallow, and Jack was an overemotional wreck. I disagree with some of those assessments, as do many others here, but the bottom line is, I'm sure Bioware's thinking Tali and Garrus are higher priorities. They'd have to be blind and/or deaf to think otherwise.



Grunt and Legion are the most likely characters that aren't love interests to come back. Hell, even if Legion dies during the suicide mission, the Geth could bring a replacement to the squad rather easily. Grunt is young, loves to fight and has more opportunity for character growth. I prefer Wrex but I think it's more likely Grunt's your ME3 krogan.



Thane will be written off. I could see a cameo (especially if your femShep loves him) but given his life expectancy, I think it's very much appropriate that he stay off the squad.

Unfortunately, the same could be said of Mordin. I love Mordin as a character, he's phenomenal, but if he wasn't a squadmate in ME3 and just played a supportive NPC role, I wouldn't be offended. He's an old salarian, his combat effectiveness is minimal, his entire importance to ME3's plot involved a specific antidote to use against Collector swarms. I don't think Bioware should make him a priority for a squadmate, but he better have at least a cameo and another song to sing.



Samara, Morinith, Zaeed and Kasumi are all not important characters, shouldn't return as squadmates, and I think Bioware knows that. They shouldn't waste time programming those characters in unless they've already gotten the ones we care much more about (Tali, Garrus, etc.) into the fold. Hell, in all honesty I'd rather see Kal'Reegar as a squadmate in ME3 then have any of those come back -- and I *like* Zaeed (and I may like Kasumi.) It just doesn't make sense to do tons of programming work in ME3 for strictly optional characters.





...Just my two cents. Feel free to disagree. But my point is, I think there is a middle ground between "bringing back ALL the ME2 characters as squadmates" and "bringing back none at all." It's unrealistic to expect Bioware to bring them all back, but Tali and Garrus (and hopefully a few more) have to come back in a major way, and Bioware knows that.

[Collider]

The consensus is not that Miranda was shallow. And she also is the least likely to die in ME3. Jack if I recall was one of Bioware's - or someone from Bioware of a related job - favorite new characters.



Kal'Reegar could die easily if you missed the paragon interrupt. Seeing how much work they put into Thane and the fact that he designed from the ground up specifically as a romance option, I don't see them as throwing him away.



I agree on Mordin, he's a fantastic character, but not much is lost from him not being squad mate and instead a crew member you can talk to.

[KironDrayga]

Collider wrote...

The consensus is not that Miranda was shallow. And she also is the least likely to die in ME3. Jack if I recall was one of Bioware's - or someone from Bioware of a related job - favorite new characters.

For the record, I personally agree with you. I think I referenced that in my original post as well, those critiques don't match my personal opinions of the characters. Jack was one of my favorite ME2 characters. I'd love to see them come back. (Wouldn't shed tears if Jacob didn't, but I understand some might like him.)

I'm highlighting the most negative assessments of Miranda and Jack because it's part of my point: as much as you may love those characters, they aren't quite as beloved as the likes of Tali and Garrus, and thus they're ever-so-slightly less a priority for Bioware to bring back.

A decent segment of the gaming population would be disappointed if Miranda and/or Jack didn't come back as squadmates. By contrast, a massive majority of ME's gamers would be outright stark raving mad if Tali or Garrus didn't show up in ME3. That's just a fact, it's pretty evident by visiting these very message boards.

[Collider]

That is indeed a good point. Although Jack and Miranda assuredly have plenty of fans, Tali and Garrus have been in two games. I trust Bioware to satisfy the fans, although a little nervous.

[keegdarv1]

the consusus is not of Miranda being shallow, if memory is right she at the second largest fan base on the forums shes a perfect exsample of what Bioware wants out of their characters she brings emotions to people love or hate

I dont not hate or dislike Tali and Garrus infact i like them both I'm just growing tired of looking at threads like this and people thinking their al that matter or the game would suffer without them. At this point Garrus or Tali have done nothing for the main plot but thats the point no character isnt replaceable if Bioware wanted to. People will be upset no matter what if some characters arent in or not the game would move on with or without Tali and Garrus fans would get over it but yes they be upset just a Miranda Thane Jacob Jack or whoevers fans would be too

But Bioware listens to fans the best they can and will try thier best to if they can bring back who fits the plot well and the fans want, Bioware said it themself thier watching who people are using the most, they watch the forums but all a fan can do beside use their favortie character show thier support is wait

Modifié par keegdarv1, 16 mars 2010 - 04:51 .

[Collider]

I agree Keeg. It's silly to fight over the characters and about the fans. I just say that Tali and Garrus may be most wanted because they've been in two games. But there's no doubt that these character threads show that many other characters are wanted, no doubt of that. Miranda seems to shoe-in for returning, otherwise I don't think Bioware would have made her the most likely to survive.

Modifié par Collider, 16 mars 2010 - 04:57 .

[Collider]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Collider wrote...
I agree Keeg. It's silly to fight over the characters and about the fans. I just say that Tali and Garrus may be most wanted because they've been in two games. But there's no doubt that these character threads show that many other characters are wanted, no doubt of that. Miranda seems to shoe-in for returning, otherwise I don't Bioware would have made her the most likely to survive.

I thought was because of her dialog with the squad and EDI in the suicide mission.

Elaborate.

[Blackveldt]

And that her VA is Yvonne Strahoski (hope I spelled that correctly) who is a television star. She also served as Miranda's model. I am sure she is being paid well for this; Bioware is not going to dismiss her character so easily after putting so much effort into her (the actress). Therefore, they wrote her in as the CO and featured her as Sheploo's love interest in the trailers. If I'm not mistaken, Strahoski even took time off from filming Chuck to provide voice-over work for the game. This is why it's rather difficult to kill her off. Even when I tried to.

[Collider]

That is a good point. They'll want to make good on their investment.

[Blackveldt]

Yeah...you know the best part of interacting with Miranda though?



When my femShep told her (in that deliciously mean Jennifer Hale voice), "Does it always have to come back to your genetic tailoring?" It pretty much summed up my feelings about her.



Don't get me wrong: I like Strahoski. On Chuck. But Miranda...ehh...but I suppose that's for another discussion. She'll definitely have a nice chunk of role in ME3 (for those that didn't get her killed of course).

[Collider]

Miranda wouldn't talk to me because I sided with Jack. And I didn't have enough paragon points because of the stupid system in ME2, to charm her into speaking with me again.