Akrylik wrote...
JMA22TB wrote...
Akrylik wrote...
JMA22TB wrote...
The Collector threat was more of a problem than people are saying it is
For two years, humans were disappearing and any investigation into it ended up being a shot in the dark until Shepard was brought back from the dead and the assembled team barely pulled off a suicide mission with a lot of help by way of an unshackled AI, Reaper technology, and information collected by Cerberus. Billions of credits were spent to make it happen, which defies basic logic if you spell that plan out to anyone in Council space.
It doesn't seem like it was an 'oh my god we're all gonna die right now' threat because it wasn't meant to be and it is from the perspective of those pulling it all off.
It was a well-informed, stealth operation used the Council's biggest weakness against them: the Terminus systems. The Collectors used the Shadow Broker to attempt to get Shepard's body, so it's likely that they used him or may have indoctrinated him to gather intel for them moving forward. Their deals sustain them financially with the elements in the Terminus that don't ask and don't tell (mercs, slavers, etc). They had a method of transportation that required finding a needle in a haystack to get through (a derelict Reaper? that's a lot of luck).
Foiling that plan doesn't seem that impressive since we saw it happen and it's possible to come through it relatively unscathed, but that doesn't negate how much of a problem it was and how much it took to stop it.
never said the collector threat was insignificant, only that there is still the reaper threat whether or not the collectors are stopped, which still spells inevitable doom against the galaxy if not conflicted. So although the collector existence is consequential, they are still just distracting from the reapers. And since the reaper threat is more significant AND was introduced first, that technically makes the collectors filler, not stupid pointless unimportant filler, but filler none the less.
That's the way the Reapers have worked so far: distractions. Saren and the geth? Tools that ended up being blamed, not the 'myth' that is the truth. The Collectors? Known entity, but, again, without compelling proof they're yet another distraction. Their harvesting plan that worked for so long was another deception: use the center of political power as a weapon against the crops their technology cultivated.
The threat was catastrophic if it was allowed to continue, and stopping it forces the Reapers to change their methods again. If they really are moving in on the galaxy, then maybe Shepard forced their hand, which is a significant step forward to stopping them.
Well Saren and the geth wasn't necisarily distracting, they served the purpose as the tools of the Reapers by redirecting the citadel mass relay from the conduit to the mass relay the other Reapers planned to use.
The collectors indeed became a distraction, but that was not their intended purpose, their purpose was to create a human reaper, a completely seperate issue along the lines of wiping the galaxy of all sentient life (though subsequently they are for humans) essentially this was multitasking on the Reapers part. Once again the ONLY actual significance i can see for the human Reaper along the lines of the Reaper plot is if it were to expedite the Reaper invasion, by trying to succeed where Sovreign failed or use some other randomly arising and unwanted plot device.
Perhaps the issues ME2 presented would've been significant if they HAD NOT been resolved, but its not like a theoretical transition between ME1 to ME3 would present some random impossible issue that shouldn't have been ignored (ME2's plot), which would just be downright unfair.
The fact is the Collectors were not random, and moved the plot forward because they were agents of the Reapers the whole time. Foiling their plan gave you insight into what the Reapers are, which conflicted with initial beliefs that they were just AIs, how they reproduce, their capabilities of genetic modification, and if you keep the base, a treasure chest of information about their most protected operation. They modified a relay to set up a station in the galactic core! That's pretty well-protected and you can be sure that there's a lot to discover on that beehive.
You gain new allies to gather forces, a powerful team and an even more powerful ship, and you have more than enough evidence with the IFF, logs of data mined from the cruiser and the Collector station, and whatever other data EDI collected that wasn't immediately used in the operations. That lets you convince and mobilize the Council, which can use their resources to help prepare. On the other hand, you can keep the station and use the information to allow Cerberus the possibility of creating the most advanced military force the galaxy has ever created using technology organic life was never supposed to utilize, from the Reapers' standpoint.
The plot was moved forward more than adequately in my book.
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