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[eternalnightmare13]

There's an audio clip from one of the terminals in the station at the start of the game where it is a man's voice (I took to be Wilson) saying that the Lazarus Project is way over budget.  He goes on to say that he doesn't know where TIM gets all the creds from, but wishes he'd pass some his way.

That got me to thinking perhaps Wilson was just greedy and became a turn coat for The Shadow Broker or someone else who wanted Shephard dead.

[Galimor_001]

Possibly. Does it really matter though? He died, and you live.

[Tlazolteotl]

No, whomever paid Wilson gave him an opportunity.
Wilson's motive is Miranda. For being such a c***tease.

[enormousmoonboots]

My favorite Wilson explanations are A) Wilson cut a deal with the Shadow Broker and Wilson didn't betray anyone, the 'berserk' mechs were purposely loosed by TIM or Miranda to 'take care' of the Lazarus project staff and make Shepard trust them.

[AtreiyaN7]

I'd say it was credits or something extremely valuable. I could hear the greed in his voice when he was talking about how much money TIM was investing in the project (and he sounded a bit disgruntled/out of sorts too). Maybe he had been contacted by the Collectors (or someone who has a major reason to hate Cerbeerus and/or who wants Shepard to stay dead).

[Barrendall]

After listening to all of his journal entries I would say it wasn't only greed that motivated him. Lust and revenge seemed to be great motivators to his betrayal. Miranda seemed to be less than cordial with Wilson during their association.

[cynicalsaint1]

I think its a pretty safe bet that he was bought by the Shadow Broker and/or Collectors.



TIM might be willing to do some fairly nasty things, but he doesn't off his own people unless they cross him or colossally !@#$ something up, there are better way to cover your tracks. Now, if someone had actively done something to reveal the Lazarus project whether purposefully or by a major slip up, someone might have to die--but never when everyone is performing their job correctly.

[eternalnightmare13]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

I'd say it was credits or something extremely valuable. I could hear the greed in his voice when he was talking about how much money TIM was investing in the project (and he sounded a bit disgruntled/out of sorts too). Maybe he had been contacted by the Collectors (or someone who has a major reason to hate Cerbeerus and/or who wants Shepard to stay dead).

He sounded disgruntled/frustrated to me as well especially when talking about Miranda's attitude and Lazarus Project.

[Sharn01]

My money is on Wilson either doing what TIM told him to do, or TIM sent a signal to activate a prearranged program in the mechs and Wilson was the fall guy.

[Cyberfrog81]

Despite his mild-mannered facade, TIM is a ruthless "ends justify the means" guy. He'll torture and sacrifice and probably even slaughter human lives for the greater "good" without much hesitation. But it seems odd he would risk Miranda (unless she's in on it, but she seems genuinely surprised by the whole ordeal) and, worse yet, a maybe-not-fully-functional Shepard. The Wilson recordings hint at his guilt, but could also be a red herring.

[Skilled Seeker]

He wanted a piece of DAT ASS.

[Raphael diSanto]

Cyberfrog81 wrote...

Despite his mild-mannered facade, TIM is a ruthless "ends justify the means" guy. He'll torture and sacrifice and probably even slaughter human lives for the greater "good" without much hesitation. But it seems odd he would risk Miranda (unless she's in on it, but she seems genuinely surprised by the whole ordeal) and, worse yet, a maybe-not-fully-functional Shepard. The Wilson recordings hint at his guilt, but could also be a red herring.

Except that he did, on the collector ship betrayal. Of course, the claim could also be made that (like then) he also had full confidence that Miri and Shep would prevail and survive against a few mechs.

[Pandaman102]

Wilson's attempt to kill Shepard, Warden Kuril's attempt to capture Shepard, Liara's admission that the Shadow Broker wanted to sell Shepard to the Collectors, and Harbinger's constant declaration to "keep Shepard's body intact" are related; this mini-plot probably will get a passing mention if there's a confrontation with the Shadow Broker in ME3 but is otherwise pretty much resolved after destroying the Collectors.

Modifié par Pandaman102, 14 mars 2010 - 03:46 .

[Raphael diSanto]

Mukora wrote...

There's an easily missed audio log right after you meet Jacob that goes like this--
Wilson: We did it! Shepard's alive! Maybe Miranda will take notice of me now.

I paraphrased, but you get the point. Wilson thought Shepard was diverting Miranda's attention from him. Poor bastard, all he had to do was ask me to ask Miranda to leave me alone after I was revived. I don't like her, and he could have avoided a slug in the head.

I don't know how many times I've had that conversation with Jacob and I only found that stupid log last night.

[Darkhour]

It will probably be revealed in the comic which, based on the last cover I saw with Miranda strutting down a corridor, switches from Liara's securing Shepards body to the Lazarus project efforts to revive Shepard.

My quess is the Shadow Broker. The only person/people who could know about Shepard's body and discover where it is currently housed would be the Shadow Broker. The collectors would have probably just showed up at the station and either boarded the station or blew it to pieces if they knew where Shepard's body was located.

[Akeashar]

I always got the impression it was Wilson working with the Shadow Broker for extra creds since he wasn't getting as much as he wanted out of the process. He set the mechs loose to kill Miranda, so that when the Broker's team arrived they could collect Shepard's body. He didn't take into account Shepard waking, or Miranda destroying the Mechs. When you and Jacob got closed to the mech control area where he'd let the mechs loose from, he made up a story about trying to turn them off and shot himself in the leg so that it'd seem the mechs were targetting him as well.



End of story, its all about the money, and not getting enough.

[McBeath]

Wilson's Motive = He's a D-bag, and after seeing how damn sexy your Shepard is he knows his chances with Miranda are shot. Such a hater.

[Cyberfrog81]

Raphael diSanto wrote...

Cyberfrog81 wrote...

Despite his mild-mannered facade, TIM is a ruthless "ends justify the means" guy. He'll torture and sacrifice and probably even slaughter human lives for the greater "good" without much hesitation. But it seems odd he would risk Miranda (unless she's in on it, but she seems genuinely surprised by the whole ordeal) and, worse yet, a maybe-not-fully-functional Shepard. The Wilson recordings hint at his guilt, but could also be a red herring.

Except that he did, on the collector ship betrayal. Of course, the claim could also be made that (like then) he also had full confidence that Miri and Shep would prevail and survive against a few mechs.

True enough, he is puts his own people at risk quite willingly. But with the base it would be completely pointless. Why not have Miranda take Shepard with her off-base and THEN go nuts with the base? It's not like anyone would be around to ask questions about Shepard and Miranda conveniently slipping out right before all hell breaks lose.

Regardless, the (remote?) possibility of Wilson being innocent is intriguing.

[CmdrFenix83]

enormousmoonboots wrote...

My favorite Wilson explanations are A) Wilson cut a deal with the Shadow Broker and Wilson didn't betray anyone, the 'berserk' mechs were purposely loosed by TIM or Miranda to 'take care' of the Lazarus project staff and make Shepard trust them.

I'm in the B camp.  Though I think TIM had Wilson do it on the assumption that Miranda would take care of him to hide that fact. 

[CmdrFenix83]

Cyberfrog81 wrote...

Despite his mild-mannered facade, TIM is a ruthless "ends justify the means" guy. He'll torture and sacrifice and probably even slaughter human lives for the greater "good" without much hesitation. But it seems odd he would risk Miranda (unless she's in on it, but she seems genuinely surprised by the whole ordeal) and, worse yet, a maybe-not-fully-functional Shepard. The Wilson recordings hint at his guilt, but could also be a red herring.

To quote Jacob, "A bunch of mechs won't drop Miranda, she's alive."  You can't say TIM won't risk valuable people.  Look at the Collector Ship mission.  TIM sent Shepard into a trap, fully confident that Shepard would make it out alive.  He absolutely would risk Miranda like that.

[Azint]

I always thought Wilson was working for the Shadow Broker.

[Leo]

Wilson is a Space Cowboy, he doesn't need a motive.

[AngryFrozenWater]

CmdrFenix83 wrote...

enormousmoonboots wrote...

My favorite Wilson explanations are A) Wilson cut a deal with the Shadow Broker and Wilson didn't betray anyone, the 'berserk' mechs were purposely loosed by TIM or Miranda to 'take care' of the Lazarus project staff and make Shepard trust them.

I'm in the B camp.  Though I think TIM had Wilson do it on the assumption that Miranda would take care of him to hide that fact. 

Yeah. Miranda seemed to be very trigger happy.

[Zulu_DFA]

Miranda should have fired Wilson in the knee caps, if she truly believed that he was a traitor.



So probably it was a live fire exersize for Shepard, and a cover up. Hovever, it might have been triggered by some genuine threat like a security leak or Wilson's defection, which could involve some other personnel and sponsored not necessarily by the Shadow broker, but by the Alliance Naval Intelligence (Anderson). Valuable personnel loyal to Cerberus could have been withdrawn beforehand.



Hope when we get to the Shadow Broker it might clarify something.