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#51
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A Fhaol Bhig wrote...

Livemmo wrote...

STUFF

thieves...


He's right. Not you, Live is.

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TJSolo wrote...

ME1 is published by M$.
Before all the M$ stuff comes up; they do pretty well as a publisher and keeps their IPs unique.
I don't get a Halo feel when I play Lost Odyssey

You came on a little flame heavy for a mistake.

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Dethateer wrote...

A Fhaol Bhig wrote...

Livemmo wrote...

STUFF

thieves...


He's right. Not you, Live is.

I mean, think of it anyway you want.

These people are defined by the success of the game, if people steal, the developers of the game lose out.

You can argue that if your Rip or Torrent, the companies aren't losing money, techincally your right. It's all hypothetical money they lose, but nonetheless that doesn't change that everytime your Torrent you take hard earned money.

Your worse than EA will ever be in my opinion.

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Actually, pirates will either buy the games when they find them, or never buy them at all. The second category isn't lost sales because they wouldn't buy anyway, the first one represents sales.

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A Fhaol Bhig wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

ME1 is published by M$.
Before all the M$ stuff comes up; they do pretty well as a publisher and keeps their IPs unique.
I don't get a Halo feel when I play Lost Odyssey

You came on a little flame heavy for a mistake.


I honestly don't want EA in any of my games. Flame or not, it is how I feel.

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TJSolo wrote...

A Fhaol Bhig wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

ME1 is published by M$.
Before all the M$ stuff comes up; they do pretty well as a publisher and keeps their IPs unique.
I don't get a Halo feel when I play Lost Odyssey

You came on a little flame heavy for a mistake.


I honestly don't want EA in any of my games. Flame or not, it is how I feel.

Then don't buy them.
It can't get any simpler than that.

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Dethateer wrote...

Actually, pirates will either buy the games when they find them, or never buy them at all. The second category isn't lost sales because they wouldn't buy anyway, the first one represents sales.

Thats what I was saying wasn't it?

It's lost sales since they don't get paid.

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TJSolo wrote...

I honestly don't want EA in any of my games. Flame or not, it is how I feel.


Then don't buy or play any Bioware games post ME1?

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SithLordExarKun wrote...

Be happy that EA's douchebaggery pales in comparison to Activision.


You referring to their complete destruction and compromising of the Warcraft lore/franchise taking the soul of the series and replacing it with a spirit of commercialization?

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Dethateer wrote...

As Blk already pointed out, you shouldn't feel badass in a DS game. You should feel afraid. And angry, but only at the end of the game.
[e]That doesn't chage the fact that grabbing a Ripper for the first time and mowing down s**t felt awesome, though.


OK, but you are all speaking in a tone of accusation of EA/Visceral in that they're doing something ridiculous like removing horror and making it a power play.  They're just breaking up the hyper-intense onslaughts with some moments to take a breath, or moments where you get some new power that allows you to easily overcome the onslaught of necros for just a little bit. 

Maybe we should wait for more information until we throw around "turning into Call of Duty" or some sort of stupidity like that.

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slyguy07 wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Be happy that EA's douchebaggery pales in comparison to Activision.


You referring to their complete destruction and compromising of the Warcraft lore/franchise taking the soul of the series and replacing it with a spirit of commercialization?

A CALL OF DUTY GAME A YEARZZZZZ!

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A Fhaol Bhig wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

A Fhaol Bhig wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

ME1 is published by M$.
Before all the M$ stuff comes up; they do pretty well as a publisher and keeps their IPs unique.
I don't get a Halo feel when I play Lost Odyssey

You came on a little flame heavy for a mistake.


I honestly don't want EA in any of my games. Flame or not, it is how I feel.

Then don't buy them.
It can't get any simpler than that.


Easier said then done with how EA acquires developer after developer after developer.
After ME3 it will be done. Until then I buy with a grimace, play, and post.

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A Fhaol Bhig wrote...

Dethateer wrote...

Actually, pirates will either buy the games when they find them, or never buy them at all. The second category isn't lost sales because they wouldn't buy anyway, the first one represents sales.

Thats what I was saying wasn't it?

It's lost sales since they don't get paid.


No, they're not lost sales. They would be lost sales if those people pirated instead of buying. Since they have no intention of buying anyway, even with an uncrackable, unintrusive, anti-piracy system, the devs still wouldn't get money from them. For all intents and purposes, that category doesn't exist from a sales point of view.

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ImperialOperative wrote...

Dethateer wrote...

As Blk already pointed out, you shouldn't feel badass in a DS game. You should feel afraid. And angry, but only at the end of the game.
[e]That doesn't chage the fact that grabbing a Ripper for the first time and mowing down s**t felt awesome, though.


OK, but you are all speaking in a tone of accusation of EA/Visceral in that they're doing something ridiculous like removing horror and making it a power play.  They're just breaking up the hyper-intense onslaughts with some moments to take a breath, or moments where you get some new power that allows you to easily overcome the onslaught of necros for just a little bit. 

Maybe we should wait for more information until we throw around "turning into Call of Duty" or some sort of stupidity like that.

Righto Operative.

They aren't really taking the horror out, they are just adding respites. Like when you use the flamethrower for the first time, or whenever you Curb-stomp on the head of a necro.

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Dethateer wrote...

A Fhaol Bhig wrote...

Dethateer wrote...

Actually, pirates will either buy the games when they find them, or never buy them at all. The second category isn't lost sales because they wouldn't buy anyway, the first one represents sales.

Thats what I was saying wasn't it?

It's lost sales since they don't get paid.


No, they're not lost sales. They would be lost sales if those people pirated instead of buying. Since they have no intention of buying anyway, even with an uncrackable, unintrusive, anti-piracy system, the devs still wouldn't get money from them. For all intents and purposes, that category doesn't exist from a sales point of view.

Maybe I just didn't phrase what I meant right, because I'm agreeing with what you say 100%. Yet we appear to be arguing.

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TJSolo wrote...

A Fhaol Bhig wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

A Fhaol Bhig wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

ME1 is published by M$.
Before all the M$ stuff comes up; they do pretty well as a publisher and keeps their IPs unique.
I don't get a Halo feel when I play Lost Odyssey

You came on a little flame heavy for a mistake.


I honestly don't want EA in any of my games. Flame or not, it is how I feel.

Then don't buy them.
It can't get any simpler than that.


Easier said then done with how EA acquires developer after developer after developer.
After ME3 it will be done. Until then I buy with a grimace, play, and post.

Well good thing I care more about having a good time, and having a good game rather then the developer/and or publisher.

I'd hate my life by now.

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I have zero problems with EA, they release good games and thats all I care about. That and Bioware.  Posted Image

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*picks up pieces of brain from monitor*



Uhuh. Getting back on-topic (sort of), if EA would just STFU, and give the devs free reign instead of trying to please everyone (I'm sure someone said that on the first page already), more people would be a hell of a lot happier.

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A Fhaol Bhig wrote...

slyguy07 wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Be happy that EA's douchebaggery pales in comparison to Activision.


You referring to their complete destruction and compromising of the Warcraft lore/franchise taking the soul of the series and replacing it with a spirit of commercialization?

A CALL OF DUTY GAME A YEARZZZZZ!


Ah. I was pointing out one aspect of their douchebaggery. You point out another. Kudos.

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A Fhaol Bhig wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

A Fhaol Bhig wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

A Fhaol Bhig wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

ME1 is published by M$.
Before all the M$ stuff comes up; they do pretty well as a publisher and keeps their IPs unique.
I don't get a Halo feel when I play Lost Odyssey

You came on a little flame heavy for a mistake.


I honestly don't want EA in any of my games. Flame or not, it is how I feel.

Then don't buy them.
It can't get any simpler than that.


Easier said then done with how EA acquires developer after developer after developer.
After ME3 it will be done. Until then I buy with a grimace, play, and post.

Well good thing I care more about having a good time, and having a good game rather then the developer/and or publisher.

I'd hate my life by now.


I have been without a NFL video game for years now. I get by.
The whole developer/publisher problem isn't just mine as others in this very thread have issues with Activsion and Ubi, I can not say for others if their issues led to similar stances but I can not exclude it.
One can take a stance against any product(good, bad, or ugly) or company and have a perfectly fine life.

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slyguy07 wrote...

A Fhaol Bhig wrote...

slyguy07 wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Be happy that EA's douchebaggery pales in comparison to Activision.


You referring to their complete destruction and compromising of the Warcraft lore/franchise taking the soul of the series and replacing it with a spirit of commercialization?

A CALL OF DUTY GAME A YEARZZZZZ!


Ah. I was pointing out one aspect of their douchebaggery. You point out another. Kudos.

I honestly cannot tell if thats sarcasm...

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TJSolo wrote...

A Fhaol Bhig wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

A Fhaol Bhig wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

A Fhaol Bhig wrote...

TJSolo wrote...

ME1 is published by M$.
Before all the M$ stuff comes up; they do pretty well as a publisher and keeps their IPs unique.
I don't get a Halo feel when I play Lost Odyssey

You came on a little flame heavy for a mistake.


I honestly don't want EA in any of my games. Flame or not, it is how I feel.

Then don't buy them.
It can't get any simpler than that.


Easier said then done with how EA acquires developer after developer after developer.
After ME3 it will be done. Until then I buy with a grimace, play, and post.

Well good thing I care more about having a good time, and having a good game rather then the developer/and or publisher.

I'd hate my life by now.


I have been without a NFL video game for years now. I get by.
The whole developer/publisher problem isn't just mine as others in this very thread have issues with Activsion and Ubi, I can not say for others if their issues led to similar stances but I can not exclude it.
One can take a stance against any product(good, bad, or ugly) or company and have a perfectly fine life.


The "hate my life" thing was an exaggeration. I know you can take a stance, and I never said you were alone...

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Dethateer wrote...

*picks up pieces of brain from monitor*

Uhuh. Getting back on-topic (sort of), if EA would just STFU, and give the devs free reign instead of trying to please everyone (I'm sure someone said that on the first page already), more people would be a hell of a lot happier.

I do see the "everyone wantz to play!!11!!" In EA...dear god I wish they'd just develop awesome games and let that speak for them.

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Vena_86 wrote...

Their chef actually said that the working environment has to be based on fear and permanent stress and that there may not be any fun in making video games.

What.

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Arcian wrote...

Vena_86 wrote...

Their chef actually said that the working environment has to be based on fear and permanent stress and that there may not be any fun in making video games.

What.

...I don't think anyone would say something like that in a company like EA without it being something akin to a joke....Posted Image