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[JeanLuc761]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Cascadus wrote...

You're assuming they have skin pigmentation in the same way humans do. I'm in your camp when it comes to the fact Tali and other quarians will probably be pale, though you can't leave out other possibilities (such as 'omg purple').
But yeah, ugliness is doubtful when BioWare has such a massive fanbase on their hands.

They made Garrus more ugly in ME2 and no one cared...........

You forget that scars = badassery
I'm not attracted to Garrus in the slightest but I can see why the femShep's would.

[eternalnightmare13]

The original picture is well done and the artist has talent. That being said if it's supposed to be Tali the artist is way off base IMO.

In the picture Tali looks like a child and I also question the facial size since her face appears too small for the helmet.

I've been playing ME1 again and you can see a bit more of her face through the visor. She has rather pronounced cheek bones and a some what long/thin bridge to her nose. Longer then a typical human. True, they used a low rez texture for her face behind the helmet but there's still gotta be some rough idea of this is how she looks under the glass.

I'm thinking high cheek boned with very light colored eyes, maybe very pale skin since they've not been exposed to direct sun/star light in many generations.  They all have tinted visors of some color most likely to filter out uv light.  They could be diffferent colors, purple - pink - whatever, but I'd see it being a lighter/paler shade of those colors and not popsicle blue like asari.  I would suspect no hair but maybe some funky head frills or ridges that aren't as hard edged and aggressive in appearance as a turian or krogan. Something on par with the salarian and asari but more subtle.

Modifié par eternalnightmare13, 14 mars 2010 - 04:50 .

[Cascadus]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Cascadus wrote...

You're assuming they have skin pigmentation in the same way humans do. I'm in your camp when it comes to the fact Tali and other quarians will probably be pale, though you can't leave out other possibilities (such as 'omg purple').
But yeah, ugliness is doubtful when BioWare has such a massive fanbase on their hands.

They made Garrus more ugly in ME2 and no one cared...........

Then why are there so many 'FIX GARRUS'S FACE' topics or what have you? And Garrus =/= Tali or the quarians. Tali's fanbase is the largest of any character in Mass Effect. Even Liara's probably doesn't even approach it. We still don't know what quarians or what Tali looks like and BioWare will end up appeasing their fans by making her distinctly human while remaining 'exotic' (why is that word annoys me so?).
Garrus was just turned into a Woobie and a badass simultaneously (because everyone knows the tragic hero with scars also tends to be a complete badass as pictured in his recruitment mission) through his scarring.

[rabbitchannel]

I don't understand why people are comparing her to the image you see through the visor. The only thing you should be taking into account is how high her eye level is as that is what you can see from outside. The image inside the visor most likely will have no relation to what she is supposed to look like. It's only a placeholder. The ME team didn't carefully shape her cheekbones or nose or anything to make it similar to what her real appearance would be because she was never going to take her mask off in ME 1 in the first place.

[SimonTheFrog]

Cascadus wrote...


And Simon, 'hard' refers to their enviro-suits.

Oh, u sure? 
Funny, there i always imagined them kinda leathery and dense just because of this...
But the other species have suits too... u really sure he talks about the suit?

[Darkhour]

I don't think that quarians look exactly like humans. I believe they have a thin coat of suede-like fur and have a slight feline/koala aesthetic. I'm hoping they have split mandibles like the character Nomak from Blade II. That way they are clearly alien, yet still comform to human aesthetic standards. Otherwise we would have a riot on our hands once the talimancers got  wind.
 
When onboard the Rayya, if you look at the silhouette of a male quarian's face you'll notice a stark contrast with the females. The male nose and overall facial shape is similar to a gorilla in that nose does not protrude, while the female silhouettes are humanish. This seems to be common in fiction nowadays that cater to young males. Like the orc, draeni, troll, etc. males vs females in the warcraft series. I wouldn't be surprised in turian females looked somewhat attractive and humanish after the conversation overheard at the bachelors party on Illium.

[Pauravi]

rab****annel wrote...

The image inside the visor most likely will have no relation to what she is supposed to look like. It's only a placeholder. The ME team didn't carefully shape her cheekbones or nose or anything to make it similar to what her real appearance would be because she was never going to take her mask off in ME 1 in the first place.

I'd agree with ME1, but in ME2 they purposely make the visor much more transparent -- it is fairly easy to see her profile in many instances, so it seems to me like that would be fairly representative.

[Speakeasy13]

Cascadus wrote...
But yeah, ugliness is doubtful when BioWare has such a massive fanbase on their hands.

Except it's not Bioware purposely making them ugly, but rather "immature" Talimancers preceiving them as ugly because it's not what they have in mind. I liked the OP's picture, but I don't think Quarians should look like that. That'd just be Bioware destroying their own artistic and scientific integrity.

I personally don't care if Bioware does reveal Tali or not. But I'm pretty sure the Quarian look human, given that Tali's initial design was just a cross-over between human and Geth (as published via concept art). I do agree with it not making any sense if they had hair, but I'm partial to them being pale. Their pigments are not made of the same amino acid as our do.

Modifié par Speakeasy13, 14 mars 2010 - 05:18 .

[Pauravi]

The whole argument is moot, really.

Bioware knows what Tali and the quarians look like and they have for a while. People can hope all they want, but it won't change anything, and honestly I think that the vast majority of people who really like Tali will be happy with whatever she looks like.

[Beerfish]

Nwalmenil wrote...

Just wanted to create a thread dedicated to the skills of vespaz.. He made an incredible picture of what he imagines Tali would look like maskless.

I'm sure most of you have seen it already, at least the ones hanging around in the  Tali thread, but it goes by a bit too quickly imo and I figured this thread might progress in a more humane speed.

Anyways.. here's the pic:



So mate, what'd you use to make it? 

Do you have have any more pictures laying around you might want to share? Not just about Tali but just any pics in general.

Anyway.. great work

Looks good to me.  And some of the critiques are a tad bizarre considering the face is covered by the shield which can distort things a bit. 

[Hassu]

I must admit, I have been in doubt whether showing Tali's face would be a good idea or not.

Seeing that fan art convinced me: it's a bad idea. Don't get me wrong, the fan art is well-made. But it also made me realise that seeing Tali's face would somehow... impersonate her to me. It has simply become a part of her character, and adds a bit of mystery over her which I prefer.

So, quite simply, I hope BioWare will not show her face at all.

[eternalnightmare13]

I think they're damned if they do damned if they don't. If they do we'll have a **** fest **** fight going on as whether she's ''teh hawtness'' or not. Likewise, if they never show her we'll have these fantasy self indulgence with fan art of Tali in wedding gowns and other BS.



Which is worse?



Not sure myself.



I'll be surprised if they do show her. They could've done it in ME2', but chose not to do so. I think that speaks volumes. They'll keep her ''mysterious'' since that's part of her appeal. Maybe her main appeal for some.

[NKKKK]

Slap some purple on that skin and its fine.

[MokiTheMime]

Suron wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

*facepalm* As much as people won't like it,she will most likely be very ugly. She won't have hair, her skin will be greezy and slimy and most likely will be very pale.

Might as well ask; got anything to back that suggestion up? 

I'm not saying you're wrong but the idea is very unlikely (and an extremely bad idea from a marketing standpoint).

They live in suits! They don't get sunlighty, if they had hair it would be disgusting. The thing is who cares if shes ugly. Will Talimancers realy care if they like her personality. I think Bioware should make her ugly just too see how many Tali fans liked her because of her personality.

I too hope they take a REALISTIC approach to this rather then a fan service.....FACT..they should be weak..pale-ish (in regards to their natural skin tone)..kinda weak looking..soft..squishy...hair, if any, all nasty and greasy...etc....and honestly..they would STINK.

but I'm sure Bio will just release Asari 2.0 if they ever actually show us what they look like.

What if Quarians don't have pores, and/or deteriorate/decompose after death (They could smell like pure water, and Turians could be the only race to recognize the scent of water)? I mean they're aliens that like can't eat the same food as us or they choke and die.

Anything's possible, I think the mystery behind them is kinda cool, that way they only majorly ****** off the people who are into Tali in that special, unhealthy way. I like her, don't get me wrong, she was my first love interest (I even hurt Jack's feelings to be with her, no sleep lose). But I could live with my Shep only knowing her physical identity.

I mean, it doesn't change the facts. I hit that. 

No one's curious what a Volus looks like?

*waits eagerly for someone to photoshop a picture of Master Shredder from TMNT's face onto a Volus, poorly or otherwise*

[Unit-Alpha]

No. But well done if it was completely CG.

[InvaderErl]

Well, for what its worth I like it.



I do think some bits of it definitely fit with what we can see underneath the mask.

[Pauravi]

Suron wrote...

I too hope they take a REALISTIC approach to this rather then a fan service

Me too.

.....FACT..they should be weak..pale-ish (in regards to their natural skin tone)

No, not necessarily.
Since you seem to be interested in facts, I'll point out that lessening degrees of skin pigmentation due to low sun only happens in humans because high amounts of melanin causes vitamin D deficiency in low-sun environments.  If Quarian skin pigment is not a hindrance in low-sun environments, however, they would not have evolved a physical response that lessens their skin pigmentation and they would be the same color that they were back on Rannoch.

..kinda weak looking..soft..squishy...hair, if any, all nasty and greasy...etc....and honestly..they would STINK.

There is no reason that they cannot clean themselves.  They live in those suits, they are going to have some nifty tech to help them make it livable.

You seem to think that you have very authoritative knowledge on the subject, but your opinions on the matter are entirely speculative and not even that realistic, IMO.

[kaimanaMM]

Suron wrote...



is more like it.

No doubt the artist of the OP's pic is incredibly talented and the picture itself is a wonderful work of art, but this pic is more how I've always imagined Tali.  Alien enough to be different and exotic yet human-like enough to be recognizeable and attractive.  The orginal picture does look a little too space elf-ish, imo, but it's beautifully concepted space elf!

[Reclusiarch]

Love the picture in the original post. Hope she looks something like that.

Modifié par WinterJedi, 14 mars 2010 - 07:07 .

[Relinquished2]

Nwalmenil wrote...

Hmm, cute face, shy-looking, hint of innocence. Now if she looked less human...

epoch_ wrote...

Hell yea! My Shepard would hit that!

[KillaKow]

NKKKK wrote...

Slap some purple on that skin and its fine.

Why do people keep assuming that her skin is purple? The only part of her skin that we actually see is her nose, and it's a grey/blue color. The only thing that we know for sure that is purple is the gas floating around in her helmet that is keeping us from seeing her face. And this gas is probably not representative of the Quarian's skin tone, considering that some of the people that are in the flotilla have black gas in thier enviro-suits.

[Relinquished2]

KillaKow wrote...

NKKKK wrote...

Slap some purple on that skin and its fine.

Why do people keep assuming that her skin is purple? The only part of her skin that we actually see is her nose, and it's a grey/blue color. The only thing that we know for sure that is purple is the gas floating around in her helmet that is keeping us from seeing her face. And this gas is probably not representative of the Quarian's skin tone, considering that some of the people that are in the flotilla have black gas in thier enviro-suits.

What many people don't believe... or are unwilling to believe, is that the face inside the mask is in fact a placeholder. There is no evidence she is grey or blue or any other color.

[CrookedAsylum]

Timbama wrote...

Why would Shepard smile when Tali reveals her face and looks like a reptile or weird bird-alien?
We have to assume she looks very human like.

NO U

My Shepard is extremely happy with the more alien looking... aliens. Yeah.

Modifié par CrookedAsylum, 14 mars 2010 - 07:22 .