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[ThisIsMadness91]

I recently started a playthrough where I wouldn't engage in a romantic relationship so that I could get together with Tali gult-free in ME2. I just got to the part where you're talking to Liara, and she asks about your relationships with Ashley and herself. I told her I considered them both just friends, and I actually felt incredibly bad afterwards. I thought it was going to be easy, seeing how shafted Liara lovers got in ME2 (and how sweet Tali is), but it felt just as hard as rejecting Tali in ME2 to stay true to Liara. Hearing her address me as "Commander" instead of "Shepard" was heart-wrenching. I've actually decided to take a mini-break to decide whether or not I really want to go through with this.

It's actually kind of silly, seeing as how I do have an imported character handy who romanced Liara, and yet it still feels really horrible to turn her down this time. For a while, I always thought I'd romanced Liara simply because Tali wasn't available and I wasn't really into Ashley. But after saying no to Liara, I realise just how much I actually care about her. After months of worshipping Tali, I think I may actually care about Liara and her equally. Hats off to BioWare for writing such compelling characters, and really making us think hard about our choices.

What makes it worse is that after speaking to Ashley afterwards, it sounds like she's falling for me, and I didn't have an option to tell her I wasn't interested (it was the talk about her family). I hope I have a chance to tell her later on, or else I've rejected Liara (and spent several hours playing through the game again) for nothing.

On another topic, this is my first ME1 playthrough after playing ME2, and it's still as epic as I remembered it being. I just need to remember that in this one, you don't automatically enter cover by sprinting towards it.

Modifié par ThisIsMadness91, 14 mars 2010 - 07:56 .

[rhistel]

One piece of advice, I'm no expert on the matter but as far as I researched, there are only two tried and true methods of not having a romance transfer to ME 2. One is not talking two both Liara and Ashley at all (it's the one I used), the other is to have a romance with Ash and leave her on Virmire. All other options (including some renegade options) were not confirmed as 100% successful, when I was interested in the matter. Anyway I hope you'll still be able to skip both romances in ME, good luck.

[ThisIsMadness91]

I was thinking of leaving Ash on Virmire anyway since I rarely use her in combat (as a soldier, I already have combat strength covered). It seems a bit cruel to leave her to die if she is in love with me, but I've already broken one heart in this playthrough. What's one more, right? Thanks for the advice.

[Jamelo]

Yeah...it also adds some depth to your character if you let her die on virmire despite loving her. "My" shep is a character who was born and raised in the ghetto, and is a sole survivor from Akuze. I'm playing him as the guy who thinks that he needs to take everyones burden to repay for his sins when he was young. He was forced to save Kaidan because he didn't want to risk the nuke not going off and poossibly letting the whole galaxy be destroyed because he had to save ashley.

that said it is much easier to let down Ashley than Liara..ashley kinda just accepts it while Liara seems heart broken.

Modifié par Jamelo, 14 mars 2010 - 10:59 .

[Commander_David]

Alien threesome in ME3

[eternalnightmare13]

It kinda sucks that seemingly the best way to avoid Ash/Liara/Kaiden becoming your default LI in ME2 is to completely ignore them on board the Normandy.

[Zaxares]

To the OP: It's even harder to turn down Liara if you've read the Mass Effect: Redemption comic series and realise what efforts Liara went to to rescue your body from the Collectors. She's done so much for you and asks for nothing in return. If that's not a shining example of selfless love, I don't know what is.

[Masticetobbacco]

pffft this isn't even a hard choice



do tali of course she actually loves you . Liara brain sex is not cool at all, plus she talks weird

[Karstedt]

THIS HURTS YOU SHEPARD



Wait... that doesn't happen until ME2.

[Darkhour]

rhistel wrote...

One piece of advice, I'm no expert on the matter but as far as I researched, there are only two tried and true methods of not having a romance transfer to ME 2. One is not talking two both Liara and Ashley at all (it's the one I used), the other is to have a romance with Ash and leave her on Virmire. All other options (including some renegade options) were not confirmed as 100% successful, when I was interested in the matter. Anyway I hope you'll still be able to skip both romances in ME, good luck.

After the Normandy is grounded you can choose not to have that talk with Ashley or Liara by the locker near the sleeping pods. That effectively puts an end to a romance.

[rhistel]

Darkhour wrote...
After the Normandy is grounded you can choose not to have that talk with Ashley or Liara by the locker near the sleeping pods. That effectively puts an end to a romance.

Yes ME-wise it does end the romance, but it often happens that the romance is transferred to ME2 anyway, at least that is what I've read on this forum and mass effect wiki when I researched the issue. So when I was doing my "no romance" playthrough, I chose to play it safe and not talk to Ash and Liara at all, just in case.

[Bann Duncan]

Why would you reject Liara who "couldn't let you go" and risked her life to get you back for a fan service character?

[Weiser_Cain]

Bann Duncan wrote...

Why would you reject Liara who "couldn't let you go" and risked her life to get you back for a fan service character?

For Tali.

[Bann Duncan]

Weiser_Cain wrote...

Bann Duncan wrote...

Why would you reject Liara who "couldn't let you go" and risked her life to get you back for a fan service character?

For Tali.

Isn't that what I said?

[ThisIsMadness91]

Bann Duncan wrote...

Why would you reject Liara who "couldn't let you go" and risked her life to get you back for a fan service character?

Fan service character? She's just a character who happened to be really popular in ME1 and was rought back for ME2. Aren't the asari just fan service made flesh?

Anyway, as for why I wanted to go with Tali over Liara. Tali's character has a lot more depth in ME2 than in ME1. Her loyalty mission felt like the most emotional (and interesting) one to me, and it has one of my favourite Paragon interrupts in the whole game. Liara's story, while touching, is the same whether she was your lover or just your friend. If BioWare adds new content that shows the characters acknowledge that she and Shepard are in a relationship, I'll stick with her in at least one playthrough.

Anyway, I found that I liked Liara just as much as Tali.

[Bann Duncan]

The reason Liara's story is the same regardless of romance is that she is pretty much in love with Shep whether or not the feeling is mutual.



As for fan service, I mean the Tali romance - not the character herself.

[ThisIsMadness91]

Bann Duncan wrote...

The reason Liara's story is the same regardless of romance is that she is pretty much in love with Shep whether or not the feeling is mutual.

As for fan service, I mean the Tali romance - not the character herself.

I guess I see what you mean about the Tali romance being fan service (although from what I've heard, BioWare did once consider making her a potential LI in ME1, but thought nobody woulod want that).

[RovingRube]

I am also playing through again, but so I can have a character who romanced Ashley rather than Liara. But it did hurt more than I thought it would to tell Liara I didn't have those kinds of feelings for her, and I have been trying to avoid her since. But then I feel bad about avoiding her too. I wish I could have told her that if only I wasn't already in a relationship, she would be just exactly the kind of the alien space girl that I'd always dreamed of meeting.

Love stinks!

Modifié par RovingRube, 15 mars 2010 - 11:46 .

[Bann Duncan]

ThisIsMadness91 wrote...

Bann Duncan wrote...

The reason Liara's story is the same regardless of romance is that she is pretty much in love with Shep whether or not the feeling is mutual.

As for fan service, I mean the Tali romance - not the character herself.

I guess I see what you mean about the Tali romance being fan service (although from what I've heard, BioWare did once consider making her a potential LI in ME1, but thought nobody woulod want that).

I wouldn't have minded it so much if they hadn't retconned it as Tali having been in love with Shep from the beginning of ME1 - if they had made it a 'new romance' so to say, as the other ME2 ones were, I wouldn't have minded.

[Darkhour]

ThisIsMadness91 wrote...

Bann Duncan wrote...

The reason Liara's story is the same regardless of romance is that she is pretty much in love with Shep whether or not the feeling is mutual.

As for fan service, I mean the Tali romance - not the character herself.

I guess I see what you mean about the Tali romance being fan service (although from what I've heard, BioWare did once consider making her a potential LI in ME1, but thought nobody woulod want that).

Yes, she was initially supposed to be a love interest, but the developers thought that their fanbase was more shallow than they actually turned out to be. Who would want to romance the chicken legged girl with the bowl on her head? Appearantly everybody. They certainly presented her in a sexualized pose in the ME1 character select screen.

Bann Duncan wrote...

I wouldn't have minded it so much if they hadn't retconned it as Tali having been in love with Shep from the beginning of ME1 - if they had made it a 'new romance' so to say, as the other ME2 ones were, I wouldn't have minded.

They never retconned anything. It was never said that she felt that way about him from the very moment she saw him. As you speak with her throughout ME1 it is appearant that she likes him because he treats her like she is a part of the rest of the crew. Being a quarian she isn't used to that and comments how that reflects on him as a person. They have been though alot together. She has far more reason to want to be with Shepard than "I'm impressed, you aren't genetically engineered, but you're still a superior specimen and famous so I want to screw you now" Miranda. Miranda is just a booty call. And what a booty indeed.

Modifié par Darkhour, 16 mars 2010 - 05:24 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

Wait, so people wanted to bang Tali so much in ME1 they sexed her up for ME2? I thought it was just Bioware's own idea that backfired horribly leading to the current Cult-of-Tali.

[Darkhour]

ReconTeam wrote...

Wait, so people wanted to bang Tali so much in ME1 they sexed her up for ME2? I thought it was just Bioware's own idea that backfired horribly leading to the current Cult-of-Tali.

I liked her character, but I can't say I wanted to romance her in ME1. I think hers was the best in Mass Effect 2. With the best friends vibe, her loyalty mission and her being so sweet it just seemed more natural to romance her over any other character. They did too good of a job. Makes me feel like I'm forcing myself to romance other characters in later playthroughs because they don't measure up to her.

[scmadsen]

*spoilers for ME1&2*



I did a playthru of ME1 the other day, and it was very hard to not pick Liara, I picked Ash because I wanted to see what the diff was between her and Liara in ME2, like the email...but it was so sad to see how borken up Liara was when I told her we're just friends. Ash wasn't worth it to me at all.



I always pick Liara, and I normaly play femshep because the VO is so much better. With my manshep save I cheated on Ash with Tali, it was very sweet, I think the Tali romance was very well done. The hug is really touching...I wish you could of hugged Liara in her office, after she opens up a little to you. She is clearly hurting, just needs a hug so bad, and to be told you love her, but shep sits there like a moron.



If you could romance Tali with femshep...would be very tempting, atleast for one playthru...but Liara is my love, she loves you so much, and it shows. Besides, it's rather lame to want to sex Tali when it could very well kill her. And you know Tali will want to go back to the Fleet someday, she is very loyal to them, and wouldn't be fair to make her pick between you and them. Shep being willing to wear a suit for Tali and move to the Fleet after the galaxy is saved is a sweet and touching thought.



I just hope we get a DLC/Xpac that fixes things with Liara. As it is now, it feels forced and unfinished. Very sloppy in BioWare's part. While I question parts of ME2, it's overall pretty good and well written. So I haven't lost hope or faith that they will infact fix/finish the Liara story/romance. Shep needs some daughters with Liara, for one.



Tali will forever be my BFF/LittleSis and Liara my lover.

[AznVanguard]

hi im a new user of this site and new to forums. but anyway, i've been playin mass effect for quite awhile too and it does hurt to reject your squad. i found this out when i was playin in me2 as a female and at first i started a relationship with Jacob, but along the way, i found out you could romance Garrus and i was lik wtf lol. i thought it was pretty cool that they added more romance options in that one. Plus, Garrus's story was just mad funny lol.

[AznVanguard]

oh i also forgot to mention i rejected Jacob for the turian. haha xD