So in retrospect, did ME 2 fail?
#1
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 05:41
Did this game really not deliver in your mind? Did the lack of RPG elements(even though it was already scaled down in ME 1 and flawed) kill this game for you? Or was it the story pacing? Was ME 2 just to intense and straight forward for you? Did you not get that this game is technically a bridge into ME 3? Did you not like TIM and humanity playing more of a role, that and the whole combo of humans and reapers setting something up? Or was it the lack of choices that are suppose to change the story? How do you feel about those choices and consequences from ME 1 & 2 maybe being bigger in ME 3 perhaps? Since ME is tech the middle part and all setting up for ME 3..
So did ME 2 fail you, or in general do you think it has failed overall compared to ME 1? Do you think BioWare really could have did much better? Is ME 2 overrated you think?
Not a hate thread, but more of an understanding of things in ME 2, things where both players who liked and disliked ME 2 can get an understanding of why? I feel like there are players who are enjoying ME 2 for what it is, and the things it has improved, but is it really better than ME 1? Is this a true sequel? And people who love ME 1, and are not getting as much out of ME 2, are they blinded with nostalgia? Or is ME 2 really that "dumbed down" and bad?
#2
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 05:43
#3
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 05:43
#4
Guest_Darht Jayder_*
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 05:45
Guest_Darht Jayder_*
These questions have all been answered in tons of similar threads. I think there are a lot of fans probably taking a hiatus from posting or gearing up for the Dragon Age expansion and when new DLC or expansions come out for ME you will see more fans posting again.
#5
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 05:48
Darht Jayder wrote...
I don't think you can relate to the increase in hate threads to a failure of ME2. I think the number of people who like ME2 just aren't posting as much and therefore the threads are being over run by spam and hate.
These questions have all been answered in tons of similar threads. I think there are a lot of fans probably taking a hiatus from posting or gearing up for the Dragon Age expansion and when new DLC or expansions come out for ME you will see more fans posting again.
Perhaps your right, it does kinda seem like that..
#6
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 05:52
The characters succeeded in spectacular fashion. (LIs kinda failed, but there is time to correct that in ME3)
The gameplay is mixed for me, but mostly overwhelming success.
The graphics and sounds were overwhelming success.
If *I* were rating the game, and I counted for anything in the gaming industry, I would give ME2 a B+ whereas ME1 would get an A- or A.
ME2 was solid, loved it. The plot was weak, especially the part about Shepard dying. It has been done too many times before ala C.S. Lewis (the Lion), J.R.R. Tolkien (Gandalf) and Avatar...the whole death--->rebirth thing is trite these days. We just don't need it for a story to feel epic.
#7
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 05:52
#8
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 05:53
/TSD
#9
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 05:53
The lovers just play the game.
#10
Guest_Darht Jayder_*
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 05:55
Guest_Darht Jayder_*
The plot failed miserably?The Governator wrote...
The plot failed miserably, imo.
The characters succeeded in spectacular fashion. (LIs kinda failed, but there is time to correct that in ME3)
The gameplay is mixed for me, but mostly overwhelming success.
The graphics and sounds were overwhelming success.
If *I* were rating the game, and I counted for anything in the gaming industry, I would give ME2 a B+ whereas ME1 would get an A- or A.
ME2 was solid, loved it. The plot was weak, especially the part about Shepard dying. It has been done too many times before ala C.S. Lewis (the Lion), J.R.R. Tolkien (Gandalf) and Avatar...the whole death--->rebirth thing is trite these days. We just don't need it for a story to feel epic.
#11
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 05:57
Collider wrote...
No.
#12
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 05:58
#13
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 05:59
Vaern Sul wrote...
The haters expell their hate in the forums.
The lovers just play the game.
This.
So, hmm.... no.
#14
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 05:59
Edit - Knoll beat me to it
Modifié par KingusJamus, 15 mars 2010 - 05:59 .
#15
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 05:59
Collider wrote...
No.
#16
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 06:00
Darht Jayder wrote...
The plot failed miserably?how so?
oh god, dont ever ask that question. All it leads to is badly worded wastes of time that are usually summed up as "I didnt understand it"
#17
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 06:00
The combat engine is immeasurably better. Those who complain about lack of RPG elements really are looking at ME 1 with rose colored glasses. The first game had very limited squad interaction outside of the conversations Shepard initiated aboard the ship and most of them were hardly profound (Tali: Engines are cool!).
The real question being that we all know Bioware can do far better when it comes to dialogue and interaction with teams. That is the standard I would hold them to, their previous work, not necessarily ME 1. As to the plot, the whole "get your team" thing was fine until you realized the entire game was JUST that and one or two missions afterwards. Even so, I still rate ME 2 very highly and I look forward to the refinements in ME 3.
#18
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 06:02
#19
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 06:02
If the Reapers are behind the Collectors (and almost without question they are), then why did they not just deploy the Collectors AND Saren at the same time?
There are, at this point, just too many questions that do not have satisfactory answers. A lot of times nothing makes sense until everything is revealed. I accept that...but until everything is revealed, ME2 has a lot of things that just make me throw up my hands in frustration.
And of course, the death thing. But I explained that.
#20
Guest_Darht Jayder_*
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 06:02
Guest_Darht Jayder_*
you are right....sorry.Avissel wrote...
Darht Jayder wrote...
The plot failed miserably?how so?
oh god, dont ever ask that question. All it leads to is badly worded wastes of time that are usually summed up as "I didnt understand it"
#21
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 06:03
#22
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 06:04
the game is fine overall
#23
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 06:08
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Posté 15 mars 2010 - 06:10
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