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[Raniall]

The vocal minority can be explained in 3 simple words.

Haters gotta hate.

The game was awesome. I'm on my 5th playthrough of ME2, and still looking to play again,  whereas I almost couldnt pull myself through ME1 three times.

Modifié par Raniall, 15 mars 2010 - 06:12 .

[Blameless77]

The game definitely didn't fail. Every forum dedicated to a game will have a vocal minority complaining about said game.

Modifié par Blameless77, 15 mars 2010 - 06:12 .

[KotOREffecT]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

This thread fails. Nice try troll.

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Troll post is troll.

[Beyonder101]

Something I don´t get along with is the missing elevators. I know most of you hated it and they were definitely too many in ME1. Maybe 1 or 2 elevators wouldn´t be that bad. The citadel for example. It seems (and it is) smaller than in ME1 .And the single parts of the Citadel just don´t seem to be connected, I miss that, to know ,if I go right I´ll end up in C-Sec for example.But that´s my opinion.I still think ME2 is the best game ever and I don´t hate it.

Somethink it should be changed for ME3.... NO MORE PLANET SCANS. Can´t do it no more.

[Skilled Seeker]

KotOREffecT wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

This thread fails. Nice try troll.

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Troll post is troll.

No your logic is fail. Everyone here has answered your obvious question. Its not hard to grasp unless you are a hater or a troll.

[Knoll Argonar]

aksoileau wrote...

Exceeded all my expectations. It might just be one of the greatest games ever made.

Agreed. Or at least is one of the best games i've ever played, and the one i like the most.

Considering that i've played Chrono Trigger, FFs, Baldurs, Zeldas, Metroids, Marios, Bioshocks since I was a kid, I think that's saying a lot =/

[flem1]

Obviously not.

[KotOREffecT]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

KotOREffecT wrote...

Skilled Seeker wrote...

This thread fails. Nice try troll.

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Troll post is troll.

No your logic is fail. Everyone here has answered your obvious question. Its not hard to grasp unless you are a hater or a troll.

Failed logic? I'm sorry, when was I a hater or a troll? Never was either of the two.

[iNixiRir]

aksoileau wrote...

Exceeded all my expectations. It might just be one of the greatest games ever made.

This. I also have no intention to go back to ME1 except for the story. But I already know the story so there you go. And while a lot of people complain about the story, it does exactly what I expected of a second game in a trilogy.

[The Governator]

Avissel wrote...

Darht Jayder wrote...
The plot failed miserably? how so?

oh god, dont ever ask that question. All it leads to is badly worded wastes of time that are usually summed up as "I didnt understand it"

Well, perhaps you would care to enlighten us?  I mean, seriously...

Why:

Were the Collectors deployed as a plan B?
Was there a derelict reaper that was undiscovered until ME2?
Were the Collectors 'buying' the body when they could have just taken it after they destroyed the Normandy...late for a lunch date?
Do the collectors use credits and who has dealt with them before?..they don't need credits
Is Shepard shoehorned into working with Cerberus?..a Paragon should find it distasteful and a Renegade should -be too refractory.
Does Liara seem to think that killing the Shadow Broker is more important than stopping the Reapers?
Is there only one Collector base with only one ship with only a few Occuli to guard it?


and how is it remotely plausible that Shepard would not bring Legion to the citadel for them to compare Geth technology with Reaper tech so that it can be confirmed that the Reapers exist or at least that Sovereign was not merely a Geth mother ship?

It seemed to me as though the Reapers threw their fodder (the Collectors) in disorganized fashion at the Galaxy while they came up with Plan C.

[InvaderErl]

I just did another playthrough of 1 myself and save for Eden Prime, Virmire and the finale it was pretty hard to get through at times.

[KotOREffecT]

Beyonder101 wrote...
Something I don´t get along with is the missing elevators. I know most of you hated it and they were definitely too many in ME1. Maybe 1 or 2 elevators wouldn´t be that bad. The citadel for example. It seems (and it is) smaller than in ME1 .And the single parts of the Citadel just don´t seem to be connected, I miss that, to know ,if I go right I´ll end up in C-Sec for example.But that´s my opinion.I still think ME2 is the best game ever and I don´t hate it.

I really think the recruit and loyalty missions had something to do with this. Because in those missions they took place in different parts of the hubs, so naturally we didn't get to explore much of the hubs because of those missions I think.

Modifié par KotOREffecT, 15 mars 2010 - 06:21 .

[TyDurden13]

Nope!

[Lonely_Fat_Guy]

i love ME2

too bad, for all the haterz!

[Dreykov]

The Governator wrote...

Avissel wrote...

Darht Jayder wrote...
The plot failed miserably? how so?

oh god, dont ever ask that question. All it leads to is badly worded wastes of time that are usually summed up as "I didnt understand it"

Well, perhaps you would care to enlighten us?  I mean, seriously...

Why:

Were the Collectors deployed as a plan B?
Was there a derelict reaper that was undiscovered until ME2?
Were the Collectors 'buying' the body when they could have just taken it after they destroyed the Normandy...late for a lunch date?
Do the collectors use credits and who has dealt with them before?..they don't need credits
Is Shepard shoehorned into working with Cerberus?..a Paragon should find it distasteful and a Renegade should -be too refractory.
Does Liara seem to think that killing the Shadow Broker is more important than stopping the Reapers?
Is there only one Collector base with only one ship with only a few Occuli to guard it?


and how is it remotely plausible that Shepard would not bring Legion to the citadel for them to compare Geth technology with Reaper tech so that it can be confirmed that the Reapers exist or at least that Sovereign was not merely a Geth mother ship?

It seemed to me as though the Reapers threw their fodder (the Collectors) in disorganized fashion at the Galaxy while they came up with Plan C.

The Reaper's biggest mistake is thier own arrogance earned from millions of years of winning. Soveriegns destruction was definatly a WTF for them as it seems Sovriegn and Harbringer are the only ones still awake. Personally I got the feel that the derelict reaper was Harbringer's old body and the Human Reaper was supposed to be his 2.0 body. Why wait so long? I dunno, hole in my theory I guess. The ending I had seemed to imply to me that Commander Shepard is off to unite the Galaxy now and shove the facts down the Council's throat whether or not they like it.

[Avissel]

The Governator wrote...
Well, perhaps you would care to enlighten us?  I mean, seriously...

Sure thing.

Were the Collectors deployed as a plan B?
Because Plan A was the plan that had worked every other time. Open the Relay, Reapers come in and destryo everything, the current incarnation of the Collecters are used to gather a species found compatable for Reaperifaction. The combonation of the Protheans actions and Shepards defeat of Sovreign basically ruined the only plan the Reapers ever had or needed, they are grasping at straws but are too overconfiedent to realise it.

Was there a derelict reaper
that was undiscovered until ME2?
You cant find something your not looking for.

Were the Collectors 'buying' the
body when they could have just taken it after they destroyed the
Normandy...late for a lunch date?
This covered in first Dialouge spoken by Shepard "I sent the message, the Alliance will be here soon" 

Do the collectors use credits and
who has dealt with them before?..they don't need credits
Because going to the various species the intend to collect samples from and taking said samples by force would eventually lead to a military response.

Is Shepard
shoehorned into working with Cerberus?..a Paragon should find it
distasteful and a Renegade should -be too refractory.
Cause other wise the game would not have taken place. Some times you do things you do want to do, but that you HAVE to do. Put aside personal feelings for that whole saving Humanity thing.

Does Liara seem
to think that killing the Shadow Broker is more important than stopping
the Reapers?
Because she is blinded by her need for revenge. Shepards logic is not everyone logic.

Is there only one Collector base with only one ship
with only a few Occuli to guard it?
Because it's never needed guarding before. The Repears believe themselves to be all powerful, and that all organic life cannot in anyway threaten them, so they cant imagein it would be able to attack the base.
Do you set up guard posts in your yard to look for ants?

and how is it remotely
plausible that Shepard would not bring Legion to the citadel for them to
compare Geth technology with Reaper tech so that it can be confirmed
that the Reapers exist or at least that Sovereign was not merely a Geth
mother ship?
If they dont believe you when you tell them, and think that the geth are behind it, what makes you think they are going to believe a Geth when all he can offer is saying "We didnt build it"

[Dave the Seagull]

Me and a few other people: No
Some other people: Yes

Modifié par Dave the Seagull, 15 mars 2010 - 06:34 .

[JeanLuc761]

Avissel wrote...



Sure thing.
-SNIP-

Well said.

OT: The game didn't fail me at all.  I felt almost everything about it was better than the first, especially in gameplay and characterization.  I thought the pacing was better, the voice acting was better, the graphics were better, the conversation system was better, the combat was better...it was just fantastic.

Mass Effect 2 is just about everything I could have dreamed it would be and the few minor issues I have with it are easily overlooked when I simply kick back and enjoy the experience.

[Skilled Seeker]

On another note this is one of the few games that didn't disappoint if you were following its progress before release but actually exceeded expectations and did everythng the developers said it would.

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 15 mars 2010 - 06:49 .

[shinobi602]

Didn't fail for me. One of the best games I've ever played.

[Vaenier]

As a game, ME2 is a huge success. Its fun, long, has replayability.

As a part of the ME trilogy, it fails horribly. Story wise does little. Ruins loved characters. Makes choices barely mean anything.

[BatarianBob]

The Governator wrote...

Well, perhaps you would care to enlighten us?  I mean, seriously...

Why:

Were the Collectors deployed as a plan B [instead of helping Saren]?
Is there only one Collector base with only one ship with only a few Occuli to guard it?

I think these two might have something to do with each other.

[Computron2000]

Not for me. Its still fun. Reformatted my drive for Windows 7 and lost my one of my more important save games which is 1 designated for ME3 import. Running through ME2 again using the ME1 savegame now as Sentinel/no achievements. Its fun.



The amount of "hate" threads are actually due to 2 factors

i) Some "hate" posters constantly post multiple times in multiple threads, jacking those thread counts up

ii) Those who enjoyed the game now turn their attentions to exploring and discussing facets of the ME universe.morals/gameplay/plot/etc. These regularly turn into multi page monsters (especially those based on moral issues) and seem like "hate" threads

[Kalfear]

Did ME2 fail? Yes and no
Did Bioware fail and hurt their rep? Most definately

1) If ME2 was named any other name and a stand alone game, I would be raving about this game from the roof tops as a solid 8 out of 10 game and fun to play.
But ME2 is a follow up of ME1 were the story and setting and expectation levels were set at a insanely high point to be followed up on. Because of that, I only give ME2 a 6.7. As the follow up to ME1, ME2 failed on almost every level.

1a) Mass Effect 2 did not deliver the emotional and interactive experience Mass Effect 1 delivered.
I have gone to great lenghts to address these issues in my own thread (link in signature) so follow link for a indepth discussion on the interactiveness and no emotional connection and how ME2 failed in those regards.
Suffice to say, ME1 I replayed 10 times cause the story and everything would change slightly from game to game creating a new experience. ME2 is just a linear follow the path to the end story where the only real choice in all of it is to save or destroy the Collectors ship!
ME1 was a Shakespearian play
ME2 was Jack and Jill

2) Bioware did serious harm to their rep in ME2 because they lied to us. Something they have started to do with far to common frequency as of late I might add.
They point blank swore no RPG elements were removed in ME2 and Im sorry, a chimp can tell this game was majorly dumbed down. Thats a Lie.
They said they balanced the RPG elements with the shooter elements. Anouther lie. Hell even the shooter fans say this is now a shooter, not a RPG and they hate any type or amount of story that gets in their shooting way.
Bioware never sunk to these levels in the past. Honesty was always front and center but now it seems they will say anything and do anything to spin a project!
For shame Bioware, for Shame. If this is the after effect of the EA merger, then serious harm has been done to your developement studio.

3) As for level of good vrs bad posts. The poor reveiws always been there. Just you had the 13 year old fan boys yelling "EVERYTHING IS PERFECT" to spam the negative reveiws (like a number did here, add nothing to discussion, just yell everything perfect and move on). They either gone (or made into mods) now so the real one sidedness of this discussion coming forth.
I really hope Bioware is listening and responds approapriately

Modifié par Kalfear, 15 mars 2010 - 07:01 .