this game is god in disc form.
dont bash it otherwise i'll assume direct control
So in retrospect, did ME 2 fail?
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Posté 15 mars 2010 - 07:02
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I'm doing another playthrough of both ME1 and 2, right on the heels of my first. So, I don't think either failed. There are a few things I miss from ME1 in ME2 (I liked the Mako better than the scans, and in general ME1 felt more open ended in direction), but overall I went from "How can they possibly make this better?" to "OMG, they made it better!". From the usual architecture like graphics and combat to thinking outside the box with regard to inventory, it's an improved design.
Mind you, ME1 is still a terrific game, even two years after launch. But the gaming field changes yearly, and Bioware still managed to be cutting edge. I look forward to the encore.
Mind you, ME1 is still a terrific game, even two years after launch. But the gaming field changes yearly, and Bioware still managed to be cutting edge. I look forward to the encore.
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Posté 15 mars 2010 - 07:02
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Avissel wrote...
Was there a derelict reaper
that was undiscovered until ME2?
You cant find something your not looking for.
Just to say something on this topic: SPACE IS BIG, REALLY BIG.
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Posté 15 mars 2010 - 07:05
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It only failed if you're a whiny little ****.
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Posté 15 mars 2010 - 07:06
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Also, the Empire Strikes Back was not universally loved when it was released:
http://en.wikipedia....s_Back#Reaction
http://en.wikipedia....s_Back#Reaction
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Posté 15 mars 2010 - 07:07
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This. I maintain it's very difficult to judge the second part of a trilogy when I haven't played/seen the last part yet. It feels unfair to do so.InvaderErl wrote...
Also, the Empire Strikes Back was not universally loved when it was released:
http://en.wikipedia....s_Back#Reaction
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Posté 15 mars 2010 - 07:08
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I'm seeing less 'hate' threads these days then upon release and weeks after. Yeah, there are still some but there are more threads about 'wish' lists and speculation then 'hate'. Dragon Age Origins had an equal amount of hate threads upon release and still does.
The sales and the positive response can't be ignored.
The game did NOT fail.
The sales and the positive response can't be ignored.
The game did NOT fail.
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Posté 15 mars 2010 - 07:08
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Raniall wrote...
The vocal minority can be explained in 3 simple words.
Haters gotta hate.
The game was awesome. I'm on my 5th playthrough of ME2, and still looking to play again, whereas I almost couldnt pull myself through ME1 three times.
I agree, With ME1 I was nearly dreading going back to complete it differently, ME2 I can't wait to go at it again....
Also, the fact that it's in the vein of the Dirty Dozen/ Magnificent Seven/ Seven Samurai just made it the coolest thing ever for me
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Posté 15 mars 2010 - 07:09
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No.
I like ME2 more, vor many reasons, all of witch are small and have little meaning, but taken together make difference between v.good (ME1) and excelent (ME2).
(Most important - optimisation. ME2 on full details runs 10x smoother than ME1 on medium)
I like ME2 more, vor many reasons, all of witch are small and have little meaning, but taken together make difference between v.good (ME1) and excelent (ME2).
(Most important - optimisation. ME2 on full details runs 10x smoother than ME1 on medium)
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Posté 15 mars 2010 - 07:09
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Why:
Were the Collectors deployed as a plan B?
- Easy, there isn't anyting better to spy organic species than a misterous specie who sometimes trade tech for bodies to study the species living in the galaxy where the Reapers harvest.
Was there a derelict reaper that was undiscovered until ME2?
- Easy, again. No one was looking for it. They knew about the Leviathan and they didn't do anything until batarians took it. No one knew about reapers.
Were the Collectors 'buying' the body when they could have just taken it after they destroyed the Normandy...late for a lunch date?
- It isn't easy to find a dead frozen corpse you know?
Do the collectors use credits and who has dealt with them before?..they don't need credits
- They trade technology for things (where things are bodies)
Is Shepard shoehorned into working with Cerberus?..a Paragon should find it distasteful and a Renegade should -be too refractory.
- Did you listen the conversation between TIM and Shepard? Well, Shepard is saying why should i trust you, why the alliance does nothing, and so on and TIM says "dude, go to Freedom Progress if you find something we will help you, if there is nothing you can leave" after that you can go to the Citadel and speak with the council, they will call you crazy basterd working for Cerberus. The damage is done, you can't work alone, and since your old bosses won't help you, you stay with Cerberus.
Does Liara seem to think that killing the Shadow Broker is more important than stopping the Reapers?
- Liara knows Shepard, she knows he is capable of dealing with the Collectors alone. Also she now has her own life, with her own problems and her own goal.
Is there only one Collector base with only one ship with only a few Occuli to guard it?
- Surprise attack. They didn't know that they were messing with an unstoppable force like Shepard. They didn't know they were going to be attacked in their own home. And so far, the ships who pass through the Omega4 relay were easy destroyed, that's why they fail.
and how is it remotely plausible that Shepard would not bring Legion to the citadel for them to compare Geth technology with Reaper tech so that it can be confirmed that the Reapers exist or at least that Sovereign was not merely a Geth mother ship?
- They didn't believe one of their agents, and they should believe in an "enemy"? Makes sense..
Were the Collectors deployed as a plan B?
- Easy, there isn't anyting better to spy organic species than a misterous specie who sometimes trade tech for bodies to study the species living in the galaxy where the Reapers harvest.
Was there a derelict reaper that was undiscovered until ME2?
- Easy, again. No one was looking for it. They knew about the Leviathan and they didn't do anything until batarians took it. No one knew about reapers.
Were the Collectors 'buying' the body when they could have just taken it after they destroyed the Normandy...late for a lunch date?
- It isn't easy to find a dead frozen corpse you know?
Do the collectors use credits and who has dealt with them before?..they don't need credits
- They trade technology for things (where things are bodies)
Is Shepard shoehorned into working with Cerberus?..a Paragon should find it distasteful and a Renegade should -be too refractory.
- Did you listen the conversation between TIM and Shepard? Well, Shepard is saying why should i trust you, why the alliance does nothing, and so on and TIM says "dude, go to Freedom Progress if you find something we will help you, if there is nothing you can leave" after that you can go to the Citadel and speak with the council, they will call you crazy basterd working for Cerberus. The damage is done, you can't work alone, and since your old bosses won't help you, you stay with Cerberus.
Does Liara seem to think that killing the Shadow Broker is more important than stopping the Reapers?
- Liara knows Shepard, she knows he is capable of dealing with the Collectors alone. Also she now has her own life, with her own problems and her own goal.
Is there only one Collector base with only one ship with only a few Occuli to guard it?
- Surprise attack. They didn't know that they were messing with an unstoppable force like Shepard. They didn't know they were going to be attacked in their own home. And so far, the ships who pass through the Omega4 relay were easy destroyed, that's why they fail.
and how is it remotely plausible that Shepard would not bring Legion to the citadel for them to compare Geth technology with Reaper tech so that it can be confirmed that the Reapers exist or at least that Sovereign was not merely a Geth mother ship?
- They didn't believe one of their agents, and they should believe in an "enemy"? Makes sense..
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Posté 15 mars 2010 - 07:12
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ME2 succeeded in an amazing way. People have criticisms about certain things, but overall the reaction seems incredibly, overwhelmingly positive, especially considering how generally nitpicky gamers (and RPG'ers in particular) can be.
Some people hated the plot. For myself, I am okay with a character-driven plot, especially with such diverse and compelling characters. Some people like the LI's better in ME1 -- frankly I think those people are remembering the romance plots from ME1 with rose-colored memories, because the ones in ME2 seem unarguably deeper to me. Some people don't like the drastic change in "inventory" -- this seems to be among the most common criticisms. Honestly I love it, but to each their own.
For a game with the sort of expectations that ME2 had to have an overwhelmingly positive initial reception like that speaks volumes about the game's quality. In time people largely forget about the flaws, which I suspect is why ME1 is remembered in such a shining light by the ME2 critics. But ME1 had its flaws as well, and far fewer than ME2 does, IMO.
Anyway, just my opinion. I think ME2 is pretty goddamn fantastic. Any criticisms I have about it are relatively minor -- wishing for a different dialogue option here or there, or to be able to recruit in any order. Ultimately those sorts of things are petty compared to the monumental achievement in entertaining gameplay, the quality of the characters and script, and the sheer emotional impact that it delivers.
Some people hated the plot. For myself, I am okay with a character-driven plot, especially with such diverse and compelling characters. Some people like the LI's better in ME1 -- frankly I think those people are remembering the romance plots from ME1 with rose-colored memories, because the ones in ME2 seem unarguably deeper to me. Some people don't like the drastic change in "inventory" -- this seems to be among the most common criticisms. Honestly I love it, but to each their own.
For a game with the sort of expectations that ME2 had to have an overwhelmingly positive initial reception like that speaks volumes about the game's quality. In time people largely forget about the flaws, which I suspect is why ME1 is remembered in such a shining light by the ME2 critics. But ME1 had its flaws as well, and far fewer than ME2 does, IMO.
Anyway, just my opinion. I think ME2 is pretty goddamn fantastic. Any criticisms I have about it are relatively minor -- wishing for a different dialogue option here or there, or to be able to recruit in any order. Ultimately those sorts of things are petty compared to the monumental achievement in entertaining gameplay, the quality of the characters and script, and the sheer emotional impact that it delivers.
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Posté 15 mars 2010 - 07:20
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I am not trying to be argumentative, but I have questions regarding your answers. I am honestly only trying to close gaps in the reasoning as I see it.
[quote]Avissel wrote...
Were the Collectors deployed as a plan B?
Because Plan A was the plan that had worked every other time. Open the Relay, Reapers come in and destryo everything, the current incarnation of the Collecters are used to gather a species found compatable for Reaperifaction. The combonation of the Protheans actions and Shepards defeat of Sovreign basically ruined the only plan the Reapers ever had or needed, they are grasping at straws but are too overconfiedent to realise it.[/quote]
Hubris is almost a good enough reason, but not for a spiecies that is millions of years more advanced than the next most advanced species in the Galaxy...but...we need a reason to succeed, so this one gets a pass.
[quote]Avissel wrote...
Was there a derelict reaper
that was undiscovered until ME2?
You cant find something your not looking for.[/quote]
Archeologists were...anyone who explored the Galaxy would not have passed it up. I will grant that no one was looking for that specifically, but when we can find Prothean artifacts and not a Reaper, I begin to question how this new spawn of species missed that huge chunk of evidence.
[quote]Avissel wrote...
Were the Collectors 'buying' the
body when they could have just taken it after they destroyed the
Normandy...late for a lunch date?
This covered in first Dialouge spoken by Shepard "I sent the message, the Alliance will be here soon"
[/quote]
Still not buying that they could not have, at that range, found the body and loaded it before the Alliance arrived.
[quote]Avissel wrote...
Do the collectors use credits and
who has dealt with them before?..they don't need credits
Because going to the various species the intend to collect samples from and taking said samples by force would eventually lead to a military response.[/quote]
But no response militarily for all the abductions and no surveillance of any kind to prove they were not slave raiders? I find it dubious at best. Furthermore, why no response after Kaiden/Ashley witnessed what was going on?
Again, I am challenging the plot as a whole, not so much your answers...because you did not write the plot so you are answering to the best of your ability. But your answers made me question the plot more. This is good because it promotes discussion.
[quote]Avissel wrote...
Is Shepard
shoehorned into working with Cerberus?..a Paragon should find it
distasteful and a Renegade should -be too refractory.
Cause other wise the game would not have taken place. Some times you do things you do want to do, but that you HAVE to do. Put aside personal feelings for that whole saving Humanity thing.[/quote]
Well, I think better writing would have alleviated this problem. Though, this is somehwat excused by explaining Cerberus as being a black operations branch of the Alliance, originally. Also, since the Council is obstinate and the Alliance seems the weakest of the military powers of Citadel space, it makes sense that they are not in a position to help.[/quote]
[quote]Avissel wrote...
Does Liara seem
to think that killing the Shadow Broker is more important than stopping
the Reapers?
Because she is blinded by her need for revenge. Shepards logic is not everyone logic.[/quote]
Good answer. I like it.
[quote]Avissel wrote...
Is there only one Collector base with only one ship
with only a few Occuli to guard it?
Because it's never needed guarding before. The Repears believe themselves to be all powerful, and that all organic life cannot in anyway threaten them, so they cant imagein it would be able to attack the base.
Do you set up guard posts in your yard to look for ants?[/quote]
If I had unlimited resources, yeah, I probably would. I guess this could partially be explained by 'logic' and not being obsessed with security. However, my view is that if it is possible, it will happen eventually and they should have guarded against it better.
[quote]Avissel wrote...
and how is it remotely
plausible that Shepard would not bring Legion to the citadel for them to
compare Geth technology with Reaper tech so that it can be confirmed
that the Reapers exist or at least that Sovereign was not merely a Geth
mother ship?
If they dont believe you when you tell them, and think that the geth are behind it, what makes you think they are going to believe a Geth when all he can offer is saying "We didnt build it"
[/quote]
Well, I did not mean for Legion to be brought to the Citadel activated but dormant. Also, Anderson/Udina is on the Council. I would have thought he would be able to persuade or convince the Council to be more respectful of the evidence that Sovereign left behind and now the Geth that could show that there is no way they could have fashioned that ship.
[quote]Avissel wrote...
Were the Collectors deployed as a plan B?
Because Plan A was the plan that had worked every other time. Open the Relay, Reapers come in and destryo everything, the current incarnation of the Collecters are used to gather a species found compatable for Reaperifaction. The combonation of the Protheans actions and Shepards defeat of Sovreign basically ruined the only plan the Reapers ever had or needed, they are grasping at straws but are too overconfiedent to realise it.[/quote]
Hubris is almost a good enough reason, but not for a spiecies that is millions of years more advanced than the next most advanced species in the Galaxy...but...we need a reason to succeed, so this one gets a pass.
[quote]Avissel wrote...
Was there a derelict reaper
that was undiscovered until ME2?
You cant find something your not looking for.[/quote]
Archeologists were...anyone who explored the Galaxy would not have passed it up. I will grant that no one was looking for that specifically, but when we can find Prothean artifacts and not a Reaper, I begin to question how this new spawn of species missed that huge chunk of evidence.
[quote]Avissel wrote...
Were the Collectors 'buying' the
body when they could have just taken it after they destroyed the
Normandy...late for a lunch date?
This covered in first Dialouge spoken by Shepard "I sent the message, the Alliance will be here soon"
[/quote]
Still not buying that they could not have, at that range, found the body and loaded it before the Alliance arrived.
[quote]Avissel wrote...
Do the collectors use credits and
who has dealt with them before?..they don't need credits
Because going to the various species the intend to collect samples from and taking said samples by force would eventually lead to a military response.[/quote]
But no response militarily for all the abductions and no surveillance of any kind to prove they were not slave raiders? I find it dubious at best. Furthermore, why no response after Kaiden/Ashley witnessed what was going on?
Again, I am challenging the plot as a whole, not so much your answers...because you did not write the plot so you are answering to the best of your ability. But your answers made me question the plot more. This is good because it promotes discussion.
[quote]Avissel wrote...
Is Shepard
shoehorned into working with Cerberus?..a Paragon should find it
distasteful and a Renegade should -be too refractory.
Cause other wise the game would not have taken place. Some times you do things you do want to do, but that you HAVE to do. Put aside personal feelings for that whole saving Humanity thing.[/quote]
Well, I think better writing would have alleviated this problem. Though, this is somehwat excused by explaining Cerberus as being a black operations branch of the Alliance, originally. Also, since the Council is obstinate and the Alliance seems the weakest of the military powers of Citadel space, it makes sense that they are not in a position to help.[/quote]
[quote]Avissel wrote...
Does Liara seem
to think that killing the Shadow Broker is more important than stopping
the Reapers?
Because she is blinded by her need for revenge. Shepards logic is not everyone logic.[/quote]
Good answer. I like it.
[quote]Avissel wrote...
Is there only one Collector base with only one ship
with only a few Occuli to guard it?
Because it's never needed guarding before. The Repears believe themselves to be all powerful, and that all organic life cannot in anyway threaten them, so they cant imagein it would be able to attack the base.
Do you set up guard posts in your yard to look for ants?[/quote]
If I had unlimited resources, yeah, I probably would. I guess this could partially be explained by 'logic' and not being obsessed with security. However, my view is that if it is possible, it will happen eventually and they should have guarded against it better.
[quote]Avissel wrote...
and how is it remotely
plausible that Shepard would not bring Legion to the citadel for them to
compare Geth technology with Reaper tech so that it can be confirmed
that the Reapers exist or at least that Sovereign was not merely a Geth
mother ship?
If they dont believe you when you tell them, and think that the geth are behind it, what makes you think they are going to believe a Geth when all he can offer is saying "We didnt build it"
[/quote]
Well, I did not mean for Legion to be brought to the Citadel activated but dormant. Also, Anderson/Udina is on the Council. I would have thought he would be able to persuade or convince the Council to be more respectful of the evidence that Sovereign left behind and now the Geth that could show that there is no way they could have fashioned that ship.
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Posté 15 mars 2010 - 07:39
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Because the collectors truly don't have the numbers to take on citadel fleet at the time and from the looks of it the collectors were designed more as harvesters to make new reapers than a fighting force for the reapers. We didn't know that at the time. They were hoping to make a replacement for Soveriegn and probably use the whole geth to attack the citadel again (the heretic's virus to reprogram the regular geth).The Governator wrote...
Well, as so many pointed out, the Collector thing just does not make sense. I know how the standard plot trilogy is supposed to work. You start with a hero, give him a problem and he succeeds resoundingly. The next installment breaks down the hero and things look bleak. The third installment generally raises the hero higher than he was at the end of the first. But that only works if the second part does not feel like simple filler.
If the Reapers are behind the Collectors (and almost without question they are), then why did they not just deploy the Collectors AND Saren at the same time?
There are, at this point, just too many questions that do not have satisfactory answers. A lot of times nothing makes sense until everything is revealed. I accept that...but until everything is revealed, ME2 has a lot of things that just make me throw up my hands in frustration.
And of course, the death thing. But I explained that.
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Posté 15 mars 2010 - 07:43
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To quote some guy who's name I forget. ME2 was a great game ME1 was a great experience.
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Posté 15 mars 2010 - 07:47
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Slidell505 wrote...
To quote some guy who's name I forget. ME2 was a great game ME1 was a great experience.
Likely because the gameplay in 1 was broken.
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The Governator wrote...
Hubris is almost a good enough reason, but not for a spiecies that is millions of years more advanced than the next most advanced species in the Galaxy...but...we need a reason to succeed, so this one gets a pass.
The Collector's entire purpose is to gather species samples to check for viability in creating a new Reaper. They weren't meant to be footsoldiers. After Shepard and humanity are the single reason for Sovereign's death, we drew the direct attention of Harbinger and the Reapers.
Archeologists were...anyone who explored the Galaxy would not have passed it up. I will grant that no one was looking for that specifically, but when we can find Prothean artifacts and not a Reaper, I begin to question how this new spawn of species missed that huge chunk of evidence.
Much of the galaxy we visit is uncharted, unexplored. Like the Artemis Tau cluster from ME1, for example. There's a reason they called these worlds uncharted.
Still not buying that they could not have, at that range, found the body and loaded it before the Alliance arrived.
Finding an individual in a field of debris in the infinite void of space would be next to impossible. Much of those chunks of the ship would have been heated from the Collector's weapon or explosions. There's no guarantee Shepard wasn't on one of the half-dozen escape pods either. Finding anything in the great void of space is difficult, with literally infinite directions the body could have gone.
But no response militarily for all the abductions and no surveillance of any kind to prove they were not slave raiders? I find it dubious at best. Furthermore, why no response after Kaiden/Ashley witnessed what was going on?
Again, I am challenging the plot as a whole, not so much your answers...because you did not write the plot so you are answering to the best of your ability. But your answers made me question the plot more. This is good because it promotes discussion.
Outside of their jurisdiction. The Terminus Systems are beyond
Council space. Sending an Alliance or Citadel fleet to reinforce/patrol
out there would result in full-scale war, as was pointed out multiple
times in ME1. Remember, these people went out there to get away from the Alliance/Council.
Well, I think better writing would have alleviated this problem. Though, this is somehwat excused by explaining Cerberus as being a black operations branch of the Alliance, originally. Also, since the Council is obstinate and the Alliance seems the weakest of the military powers of Citadel space, it makes sense that they are not in a position to help.
Again, the setting is the Terminus Systems. Alliance/Council aren't welcome there. Causing a war with them right now would be disasterous. We need every ship we can get for the coming battle.
If I had unlimited resources, yeah, I probably would. I guess this could partially be explained by 'logic' and not being obsessed with security. However, my view is that if it is possible, it will happen eventually and they should have guarded against it better.
Why would you need to protect a base when the relay to get there kills 100% of the ships that pass through it without your own special signal? Harbinger wasn't aware of EDI's existence, he couldn't have known that she would pull information off of the Collector ship while they were ambushing Shepard. The entire situation we're in now is new for the Reapers. No one else has had advanced knowledge of their impending attack. They couldn't possibly have predicted that one of their long-dead(37millions years ago) Reapers would have the IFF key to their otherwise infallible defense.
Even then, they still had the Occulus drones and the Collector ship with advanced technology to defend that facility. Again, this is just a situation they never anticipated.
Well, I did not mean for Legion to be brought to the Citadel activated but dormant. Also, Anderson/Udina is on the Council. I would have thought he would be able to persuade or convince the Council to be more respectful of the evidence that Sovereign left behind and now the Geth that could show that there is no way they could have fashioned that ship.
What good does that do? They have hundreds if not thousands of Geth bodies to study. How does Legion's platform give you one ounce of information you couldn't get from any other? The Council was content to plop their heads' into the sand and ignore the threat. Whether or not this is a ruse on their part is yet to be revealed, but Legion's platform wouldn't have gotten you anything new.
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Haters are just a vocal minority. Here:
http://social.biowar...093/polls/1659/
http://social.biowar...596/polls/1670/
GameSpot's user score for ME1 is 8.9 (PC) and 9.1 (360), while for ME2 is 9.3 (PC) and 9.4 (360)
http://social.biowar...093/polls/1659/
http://social.biowar...596/polls/1670/
GameSpot's user score for ME1 is 8.9 (PC) and 9.1 (360), while for ME2 is 9.3 (PC) and 9.4 (360)
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ME2 is one of the best games I ever played and enjoyed, such as ME1.
ME2 did definitely win!
ME2 did definitely win!
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DarthCaine wrote...
Haters are just a vocal minority. Here:
http://social.biowar...093/polls/1659/
http://social.biowar...596/polls/1670/
GameSpot's user score for ME1 is 8.9 (PC) and 9.1 (360), while for ME2 is 9.3 (PC) and 9.4 (360)
Exactly.
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InvaderErl wrote...
Slidell505 wrote...
To quote some guy who's name I forget. ME2 was a great game ME1 was a great experience.
Likely because the gameplay in 1 was broken.
OWNED!
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You know, threads like this make me really sad. This always happens when something good comes out. Lots of people rave about it, watch it/play several times and then start picking at it.
ME2 is the best game to come out in recent memory, possibly of all time. People always wear their rose coloured glasses and start saying that previous incarnations were better. ME1 wasn't better. Yes it was an amazing game, and it was my favourtite game ever and never in a million years did I think ME2 would be better. I didn't think it was possible. Yet the sequel blew the first one out of the water. It really is amazing. Yes it has faults, but just look at it compared to other games that come out. Hell it's better than 99% of the films coming out of Hollywood.
Did it fail? Are you serious?
ME2 is the best game to come out in recent memory, possibly of all time. People always wear their rose coloured glasses and start saying that previous incarnations were better. ME1 wasn't better. Yes it was an amazing game, and it was my favourtite game ever and never in a million years did I think ME2 would be better. I didn't think it was possible. Yet the sequel blew the first one out of the water. It really is amazing. Yes it has faults, but just look at it compared to other games that come out. Hell it's better than 99% of the films coming out of Hollywood.
Did it fail? Are you serious?
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DarthCaine wrote...
Haters are just a vocal minority. Here:
http://social.biowar...093/polls/1659/
http://social.biowar...596/polls/1670/
GameSpot's user score for ME1 is 8.9 (PC) and 9.1 (360), while for ME2 is 9.3 (PC) and 9.4 (360)
I find it strange that PC versions usually get slightly lower scores despite being the better version in the vast majority of cases (unless it is a poor port). Maybe it is because PC reviewers are more critical or maybe console gamers review the PC versions and find the controls difficult.
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Paulypie wrote...
You know, threads like this make me really sad. This always happens when something good comes out. Lots of people rave about it, watch it/play several times and then start picking at it.
ME2 is the best game to come out in recent memory, possibly of all time. People always wear their rose coloured glasses and start saying that previous incarnations were better. ME1 wasn't better. Yes it was an amazing game, and it was my favourtite game ever and never in a million years did I think ME2 would be better. I didn't think it was possible. Yet the sequel blew the first one out of the water. It really is amazing. Yes it has faults, but just look at it compared to other games that come out. Hell it's better than 99% of the films coming out of Hollywood.
Did it fail? Are you serious?
OP is a troll don't take him seriously.
#75
Posté 15 mars 2010 - 08:17
Onyx Jaguar
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InvaderErl wrote...
Statistically, people who feel negatively are more likely to voice their opinion.
Yes
I for one am more likely to complain about something I didn't like than to come out and praise something I do like.
