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[nokori3byo]

Luc0s wrote...

I just finished the story of Assassins Creed 2 before my Mass Effect 2 got delivered. 

Canadian sequels FTW!

For me, the past few months have been a glorious reprise of my favourite games from the epic winter of 2007.

AC2 and ME2 both surpassed their predecessors, as did Uncharted 2.  Conversely, MW2 was a little disappointing and I haven't even bothered picking up Bioshock 2. 

[xGimpyx]

It hasn't happened to me yet, but I'm in the middle of Final Fantasy XIII, and every 20 minutes I look down at my copy of ME 2.  I swear, I'm starting to think that Shepard is talking to me through the cover, saying "Play me, or I'll kill Tali!

[TheSpaceKraken]

No game beats Mass Effect 2. Pre-ordered it back in january and played almost nothing but it until i got DA:O about a week or two ago. The original mass effect comes in third for me (played through it nine times in total on both 360 and pc).

MW2, Far Cry 2, TF2, Fallout 3, etc.
Haven't touched any of those in months.

Modifié par TheSpaceKraken, 16 mars 2010 - 04:48 .

[MacGruber1986]

Bioshock 2 still sits on my shelf, untouched. All I've been doing is ME and ME2 since 2 came out, and loving every minute of it.

[Mallissin]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Yeah I totally figured Atlas out (System Shock 2 plot twist regurgitation!), and I didn't really dig the twist. They basically got rid of the most interesting character during that revelation too and the game just stalled.

YES!!

The whole good guy is now bad! SURPRISE! So boring. And yet lots of games do it. I stopped playing Far Cry 2 for the same reason. Bad guy is now good! SURPRISE!

I hope we don't see any of that ridiculous crap in ME3. It would be an insult to fan's intelligence.

[jasonontko]

Maginipowfire wrote...

Mallissin wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

RigAudio wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Mallissin wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

RigAudio wrote...

Bioshock 2. I had preordered that game and everything...I played it for maybe 2 hours before I went back to ME2

That game blew.

The first game blew too.

And I don't mean pretty bubbles.

"Mr. Bubbles, why does our game suck?"

Hey, I loved the first one. I hope to devote some time to beating the second one as well

FIrst one was good, second was terrible. 

First one had horrible writing, I figured out the two plot twists early and stopped playing. The whole steampunk under the see thing was not novel enough for me. Jules Verne did that crap 150 years ago, so let's not act like it's something new.

I guess that ignorance is bliss then. I never saw it coming, and loved the 1st game.
The second had better gameplay, had nice characters and all, but the story could never follow the first. It still was a fun game for me though. But after I finished it I did a 2nd ME2 playthrough.

Lets get something straight about Bioshock,  it had a far better story than either ME 1 or 2.  I thought about the scene where you club to death Andrew Ryan with a putter for a week where Ryan says 'A man chooses, a slave obeys' as he orders you to kill him preffering to defiantly choose the end of his life than allow others to do so.   It was a marvelous critique of Ayn Rand showing how extreme indivduality leads to a society that is based on exploitation and destroys itself as the individual seeks to make themsleves 12 foot tall by making everyone else small.   ME2 has better game play, but it did not spark any exciting thoughts, it did not make a statement, it was not art.   I will remember Biosock just as I remember Animal Farm (its a book if you dont know), cant say the same with ME2.    

[ObserverStatus]

Bioshock 2

[Mallissin]

jasonontko wrote...
Lets get something straight about Bioshock,  it had a far better story than either ME 1 or 2.  I thought about the scene where you club to death Andrew Ryan with a putter for a week where Ryan says 'A man chooses, a slave obeys' as he orders you to kill him preffering to defiantly choose the end of his life than allow others to do so.   It was a marvelous critique of Ayn Rand showing how extreme indivduality leads to a society that is based on exploitation and destroys itself as the individual seeks to make themsleves 12 foot tall by making everyone else small.   ME2 has better game play, but it did not spark any exciting thoughts, it did not make a statement, it was not art.   I will remember Biosock just as I remember Animal Farm (its a book if you dont know), cant say the same with ME2.    

That was the dumbest crap I've ever read on the forums, and I've read a lot of dumb crap.

So, you enjoy Orwell's pro-socialism message and hate Ayn Rand's anti-socialism message. There was no mention of socialism in Bioshock. It was two meglomaniacs waging war, using a brainwashed main character to try to win.

Which is ironic because you're exhibiting signs of a similar type of brainwashing by two meglomaniacal groups as well.

Perhaps you enjoyed Bioshock because you could relate to the main character? A helpless drone, programmed early in their life to obey with no time to develop free will.

Sad....but oh well.

Would you kindly donate to my political campaign?

[jasonontko]

[quote]Mallissin wrote...

[quote]jasonontko wrote...
Lets get something straight about Bioshock,  it had a far better story than either ME 1 or 2.  I thought about the scene where you club to death Andrew Ryan with a putter for a week where Ryan says 'A man chooses, a slave obeys' as he orders you to kill him preffering to defiantly choose the end of his life than allow others to do so.   It was a marvelous critique of Ayn Rand showing how extreme indivduality leads to a society that is based on exploitation and destroys itself as the individual seeks to make themsleves 12 foot tall by making everyone else small.   ME2 has better game play, but it did not spark any exciting thoughts, it did not make a statement, it was not art.   I will remember Biosock just as I remember Animal Farm (its a book if you dont know), cant say the same with ME2.    [/quote]

That was the dumbest crap I've ever read on the forums, and I've read a lot of dumb crap.

So, you enjoy Orwell's pro-socialism message and hate Ayn Rand's anti-socialism message. There was no mention of socialism in Bioshock. It was two meglomaniacs waging war, using a brainwashed main character to try to win.

Which is ironic because you're exhibiting signs of a similar type of brainwashing by two meglomaniacal groups as well.

Perhaps you enjoyed Bioshock because you could relate to the main character? A helpless drone, programmed early in their life to obey with no time to develop free will.

Sad....but oh well.

Would you kindly donate to my political campaign?

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jasonontko wrote...

You know what funny about your response, you assumed I was pro socialist.  Is it possible to find fault in Ayn Rand and not be a Socialist? I say yes.  I think for myself.  You dont.  You are exactly what you claim me to be, now that is irony, my man.

And Animal Farm is the most anti-communist  book ever made, ******.  You might want to read it before commenting.   

Modifié par jasonontko, 16 mars 2010 - 07:16 .

[Ellipsisman]

kmcd5722 wrote...

TrueHD wrote...

The game called life.

Yeah, my gpa is considerably lower than first semester due to this game.

Me too here. At least until my laptop gave up the ghost

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MacGruber1986 wrote...

Bioshock 2 still sits on my shelf, untouched. All I've been doing is ME and ME2 since 2 came out, and loving every minute of it.

You should really start playing it. Bioshock 2 is an experience all unto itself, just like Bioshock 1 was. A hell of a lot more of an RPG than ME2.

[Massadonious1]

Save/Harvest



Dem be some tough RPG-ish choices, eh?

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Massadonious1 wrote...

Save/Harvest

Dem be some tough RPG-ish choices, eh?

 "I'm not big on these forced conversations".

Yeah, real immersive when they say the same thing constantly, and the only way to find out about characters is to bonk them.

[Keltoris]

Nothing. I was burnt out of ME1 went it came out. (Arguably burnt out of everything).



It's still trashing SupCom2 and Chaos Rising. I have played HL2E3 again a bit though.

[Mallissin]

jasonontko wrote...

You know what funny about your response, you assumed I was pro socialist.  Is it possible to find fault in Ayn Rand and not be a Socialist? I say yes.  I think for myself.  You dont.  You are exactly what you claim me to be, now that is irony, my man.

And Animal Farm is the most anti-communist  book ever made, ******.  You might want to read it before commenting.   

A little weird that you somehow quoted yourself in your own response, but moving on.

Animal Farm was anti-Stalin or anti-communism but very much pro-socialism. Orwell tried to explain that Stalinism or communism was just fascism in disguise, trying to distance socialism from the Soviets. Orwell was a socialist himself and wrote the story way of self-preservation of his ideals when they were under fire during WW2.

Rand was against all things collectivism, from communism to socialism to even altuism or democracy. She exposes the complete opposite of socialism, yet doesn't fight against fascism.

So, yes. They are two opposite sides of a coin that's a part of a currency that enslaves the world, and you're one of those enthralled. Keep the political crap ruining the world out of one of the few games not exposing a political viewpoint.

Modifié par Mallissin, 16 mars 2010 - 05:11 .

[Maera Imrov]

xGimpyx wrote...

It hasn't happened to me yet, but I'm in the middle of Final Fantasy XIII, and every 20 minutes I look down at my copy of ME 2.  I swear, I'm starting to think that Shepard is talking to me through the cover, saying "Play me, or I'll kill Tali!

This is my problem. I beat ME2, naturally, but I was still replaying it with different classes, choices, blah blah, when FF13 came out. Now I can't play 13 more than an hour at most, before I start wanting to play ME2 again. LotRO also suffered. I'd been working on my Rad gear for my Runekeeper, was on doing lots of runs, then when ME2 came out, I haven't logged on maybe... twice since then. My Kinship probably thinks I died.

[masterjedirobyn]

After my first ME2 playthrough, I did about half of AC2 and then quit and did another playthrough of ME2. Then after that, I dabbled in MW2, quit and went back and did another two playthroughs of ME2.

Now I have FF13, and while I am enjoying it, I still come to these forums everyday and imagine how cool it would be to play ME2 again for the very first time. First times are the best, and they only (sadly) happen once...

[jasonontko]

Mallissin wrote...

jasonontko wrote...

You know what funny about your response, you assumed I was pro socialist.  Is it possible to find fault in Ayn Rand and not be a Socialist? I say yes.  I think for myself.  You dont.  You are exactly what you claim me to be, now that is irony, my man.

And Animal Farm is the most anti-communist  book ever made, ******.  You might want to read it before commenting.   

A little weird that you somehow quoted yourself in your own response, but moving on.

Animal Farm was anti-Stalin or anti-communism but very much pro-socialism. Orwell tried to explain that Stalinism or communism was just fascism in disguise, trying to distance socialism from the Soviets. Orwell was a socialist himself and wrote the story way of self-preservation of his ideals when they were under fire during WW2.

Rand was against all things collectivism, from communism to socialism to even altuism or democracy. She exposes the complete opposite of socialism, yet doesn't fight against fascism.

So, yes. They are two opposite sides of a coin that's a part of a currency that enslaves the world, and you're one of those enthralled. Keep the political crap ruining the world out of one of the few games not exposing a political viewpoint.

I liked Animal Farm because it was a stick in the eye to the useful idiots who said the Soviet Union was a pardise and Orwell did so by writing a book so simplistic a child could understand, so complex some adults could not, that is art.  You migt say useful idiot is a partisian phrase but to me the thugishness of the Soviet Union was a crime against humanity not against any particular ideology IMO.   Supporting it because of ideology was unacceptable IMO.  There is just no excuse for a dictorial regime who imprisions its own people,  if you can come up with one be my guest and I will say I am wrong.

Now to me there are 'political opinions' and there are 'ideologies.'  A poltical opinion is an judement arrived at through either emotion or reason (prefferably reason) an ideology is a collection of of political opinions.  I dont like ideologies because all them, to me, seem to have developed seperate from reason and are internally inconsistent.  To me none of the prevailing ideoologies of today are correct, so I shop around picking the ripe  and juicy political opions that are rational, that do not necessarily confirm my preceptions but lead me to interesting truths.  Enthrawled by ideas sir, YES I AM!  I make no apologies about that.  Enthrawled by ideology noooooooooooooo.  

What you seem wish is to live life as intellectual unich with no opinions.  That sounds pretty damn boring and devoid of meaning to me. 

Now back to the game, you make a good point that not all games need to have political opinions to be artful, that was not what I intended but I can see how you can see that, I should have been clearer.  

[javierabegazo]

Keep the insults down and keep the politics OUT of the forums, or this gets closed

[Pho Kadat]

Pretty soon here, I see FF13 getting the hook for ME2 again, or even ME1. If I haven't finished 13 by the time the ME DLC comes out, I probably won't.

[screwoffreg]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Alamar2078 wrote...

Dragon Age: Origins

Me too, I can't play it for too much. I just start thinking about Mass Effect 2 and go back to it. How am I going to play awakenings if this is just going to keep happening? I guess I'll split my time.

I loved Dragon Age and have played it an embarrassing amount of hours.  Even so, the new expansion has failed to excite me.  No Leliana...it looks also a bit rushed.  I have it installed and will get around to it eventually...