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[MColes]

Well thats a different issue, and one I agree on.



Theorectically speaking though(Devil's Advocate in me), Thedas is supposed to be a very dark world, where horrible things happen. Look at the City Elf origin to get my point, or the fact that women get dragged away by Darkspawn to become Broodmothers. The reality of our world's past is, Women weren't really warriors because of such problems, and it's logical Thedas would have the same problems.

[Massadonious1]

Well, I'm all for "trying new things" but this seems out of left field. It makes for a nice emotional impact, especially since it's so early, but they could of done such a thing another way, instead of depriving us of a squadmember that they spent however many months talking about that only turned out to be the new Ser Jory.

[ewauksonian]

iff this is confirmed, the reason why people are angry isn't because of Mhairi herself. It's the fact they hyped her up, with a trailer among other companions, and THEN kill her.



It's as if they promoted Okeer in Mass Effect 2, just to kill him off. Instead, they promoted Grunt directly.



If you are going to promote someone on the same level as regular companions, there darn well better a good reason for it.

[MColes]

But the point is "No one is safe", and you can't trust a teaser and what not. People are just angry that they wanted her and can't have her. Also, she's the new Daveth, Ser Jory was a coward who didn't deserve to be a knight, or a Grey Warden.

[1bloodyrogue]

Really what was the point of Mhairi?! Killing her early in the game only annoys you than have any kinda of emotional impact in the game. After she dies I swear just about everyone was like "What the?!" You have us a character we got to use for a whooping 40 mins. Thanks. See if they sacrificed her to the Archtect I'd be ok with it. Its the end of the game how better to anger us and make us want to kill him that much more. Nope they threw her at us at the very beginning of the game then after we start to get into the swing of the game *bam* she's dead. And seriously who was disapointed with Skeletor! He seemed like he'd be such a bad ass and he's somebody who you kill in the first 30 mins. Lame Lame LAME.

[Boombox]

I think it's just that we were lead to believe she would be a party member and she's isn't really.. disappointing really.

[J-Reyno]

This is game-breaking for me too, Noir. Party composition was of great significance behind my decision to purchase Awakening despite noted shortcomings. Without Mhairi that puts an unrepairable dent in my motivation. She was a significant and needed alternative to the drunken dwarf and the rotting corpse. Obviously, that's my opinion, but my sentiments were no less developed by the misleading advertising of her as a party companion.

Were her death an alternative to say, Oghren's, that would have been fine. A warrior for a warrior seems reasonable. But for for an avertised companion to suffer an undisputed death less than an hour into the game is cheap and tasteless.

[Sabriana]

If they want to show a dark world, then kill somebody else off, not the only female warrior in the company. Way to take a step backward. I am so glad that I decided long, long ago to definitely wait for purchase. God forbid that they show a strong woman for longer than one hour (more or less).

[Kulyok]

Seems like a good decision. Now I can finally have a party of Anders, Justice and Nathaniel Howe, three human male characters, just like I wanted from the beginning, and not worry that I missed anything. Non-human NPCs will stay in camp or keep or wherever.

[KendallX23]

justice is a corpse..Howe is my next victim and ANders is annoying..erm and Oghren still misses his pants..Velanna and SIgrun are the only good things...Mihairi was too...

[J-Reyno]

Kulyok wrote...

Seems like a good decision. Now I can finally have a party of Anders, Justice and Nathaniel Howe, three human male characters, just like I wanted from the beginning, and not worry that I missed anything. Non-human NPCs will stay in camp or keep or wherever.

You realize Justice isn't human, right? He is a spirit trapped in a human's body, one that is dead and rotting at that. If you wanted an all-human party, Mhairi was your only option.

Modifié par Reyno411, 16 mars 2010 - 08:32 .

[Boombox]

Reyno411 wrote...

This is game-breaking for me too, Noir. Party composition was of great significance behind my decision to purchase Awakening despite noted shortcomings. Without Mhairi that puts an unrepairable dent in my motivation. She was a significant and needed alternative to the drunken dwarf and the rotting corpse. Obviously, that's my opinion, but my sentiments were no less developed by the misleading advertising of her as a party companion.

Were her death an alternative to say, Oghren's, that would have been fine. A warrior for a warrior seems reasonable. But for for an avertised companion to suffer an undisputed death less than an hour into the game is cheap and tasteless.

Yeah i totally agree.
While I think it's important for a charatcer to die through the joining.. cause It would be silly if one didn't.. a Loghain/Alistair situation would have been nice.

[Massadonious1]

Kulyok wrote...

Seems like a good decision. Now I can finally have a party of Anders, Justice and Nathaniel Howe, three human male characters, just like I wanted from the beginning, and not worry that I missed anything. Non-human NPCs will stay in camp or keep or wherever.

[Myusha]

So...I have some Witch Elf Mage, some Funny Apostate, a Drunken Idiot Dwarf, some Decaying Half-human Half-spirit, douchebag son of a even bigger douchebag, and a Legion of the Dead ally.



So far, Sigrun looks like the only ally I'll like. Besides Ander's occassional jokes.

Mhairi was going to be like my best friend. We'd go get ice cream, kill darkspawn, and avenge Roland by killing the skeletor. Turns out Skeletor dies early, and Mhairi drops dead afterwards too, DLC equipment doesn't really carry over, and romances don't exist, and the old party members make cameos at best, besides...disgusting putrid Oghren.



- 27 Approval

[Anyroad2]

Same happend in mine just a moment ago - thats why Im here in the first place.

Anyway, really really disapointed that they killed her off right in the first half-hour with seemingly no way to alter it. I was under the assumption that we would be able to pick who to put through the joining and at least have some sort of hand to seeing them make it or not. I feel betrayed that this isnt the way it is. Mhairi was a great character for the half hour I had her. A real shame that theres nothing anyone can do to save her.

Its simply upsetting.

Modifié par Anyroad2, 16 mars 2010 - 08:51 .

[BanditGR]

- 100 Approval here.

[happy-emu]

I was so, so excited to get this expansion with all its neat characters. NOW I've found out that she dies in less than an hour. You know, if she wasn't hyped as being a long-term party member (because no short term member ever gets their own trailer, to the understanding of the playerbase, until now) then I wouldn't be upset. But now, they've gone and f*cked us over. I feel like the only reason they released some of these character trailers was, of course, to entice us all to buy the game under the impression of having a party just as big as before, even if we only had one returning character.

C*ck teases. I want my party back, damn it.

EDIT: Wtf... now I'm worrying about the actual sequel and thinking if any of my favorites return, they will die horribly less than half way through. >:[

Modifié par happy-emu, 16 mars 2010 - 09:20 .

[MelodicCure]

vocalemuse wrote...

Yeah, but that's beside the point honestly.

Whether it 'makes sense' or not I was really looking forward to having a female tank without playing that role myself. Tanks being male gets old, damn it! There are two mages too, BW should have killed off one of them and not Mhairi. >/

That's because women are more squishy.  As Shale would say.

[SaltyWound]

Spoiled myself for this and now I don't know if I'm angry or intrigued. It's definitely a great example of "anyone can die" but it's also a big punch to the heart. If they hadn't mentioned/shown her beforehand, didn't allow her to level and didn't give her so much backstory, I'd feel much better about this. But I guess that's the point. We're supposed to feel like crap.

*shrug*. I'll wait till it gets cheaper, just like I was going to already.

Modifié par SaltyWound, 16 mars 2010 - 09:13 .

[5Warlocks]

That is a lot of outrage over a minute-long trailer.

[MelodicCure]

Yea, not kidding. Let it go people. You'll have a party to fight with. As long as they don't kill me in the first hour I am good lol.

[Massadonious1]

Uh, I'm pretty sure all of the character trailers are a minute-ish.

[happy-emu]

Massadonious1 wrote...

Uh, I'm pretty sure all of the character trailers are a minute-ish.

Yep, they are. That's pretty much what the outrage is about, they hyped a character we would only play for 30 minutes, with NO option to save them.

[Daerog]

Ser Cauthrien was shown in pictures and well liked in the forums before release of DA:O, and I was disappointed at how little her role truly was. Mhairi getting killed is also a bummer. Well, I guess someone could always mod in a Genevieve clone or something.

Not gamebreaking in the least for me, but she seemed quite likable, so it's just sad. At least I know Ser Cauthrien is still alive in all my playthroughs, couldn't let myself kill her, Summersword be damned! Could always use toolkit or console if I really wanted it...

[J-Reyno]

A minute-long trailer that leads to anticipation lasting far longer, sir.

It's not as if we don't get the the whole "ohhh somebody must die!". We got that already at the beginning of Origins during every damn playthrough with Jory and Daveth. We were expecting more from Mhairi, and reasonably so. This is a deliberate ****with. And I don't want to hear "well if a person just doesn't have the resistance it can't be changed", I make my rebuttle case with the instance where you meet Sten. If you force the key from the Mother, he mentions that you should have papers if you lie and say she gave permission. However, if she really DID give permission, he never asks even though he has no knowledge of such. Is it not his personality to do so? Things changed depending on the situation.

Anyhow, this is the end of my rants. I'll probably still get the game when the price drops. Funnily enough I waded through any other disappointing thing I heard, but this threw me over the edge.