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What are the downsides to Stealing?


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#76
Freestorm Skinn

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I completely forgot about the stealing option so I never did it. I just looted every corpse. I never ran out of money for buying anything I wanted, there were upgraded weapons from corpses from time to time, and was never out of health potices throughout my whole playthrough.

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Bojimman

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Just wondering, does looting all the shiny stacks in the dalish camp count as stealing? They're the only group that has said anything about it (i.e. the shop owner snarkly remarking "I see you've already found the supplies I had for you, hmmmm")

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Taritu

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I picked up everything not nailed to the ground in the Dalish camp, had no problems. But I didn't pickpocket any of them. OTOH, my thief character pickpocketing in Denerim failed a couple times and I got jumped by a ton of guardsmen. (Hey, I'm a dwarven commoner. I used to be a heavy for a crime lord. Whatever it takes to defeat the blight, and too bad for the guardsman. Only ever met a couple guardsmen who didn't look better with their throats slit bleeding out in a gutter, anyway. I am not a nice person, and I was picked to join the Wardens because I'm not a nice person.)

Modifié par Taritu, 24 novembre 2009 - 10:22 .


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imo the biggest downside to stealing is the skill point cost.



i see coercion, herbalism, poison making, trap making, combat training, and survival all as better options, so yeah.



if stealing had a huge penalty assosciated with it as well as the skill point investment i think it would quickly be dubbed 'worthless'

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Habelo wrote...

Would you steal a smurf?


I would, gotta get yourself a Smurfette!  (If you've watched Donnie Darko then you'll understand).

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Alneverus

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The indication I got from Meadowz post is that her random encounters have come from nothing but pickpocketing. Which, if it holds true, is a sad situation given there is an entire quest line dedicated to theft and another to assassination that doesn't yield the kind of response that person has seen.



If that is, indeed, the case then aside from using it to get something extra from a mini-boss or a boss encounter the skill is useless. Unless you wanted to get these encounters for XP.

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Meadowz

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The indication I got from Meadowz post is that her random encounters have come from nothing but pickpocketing. Which, if it holds true, is a sad situation given there is an entire quest line dedicated to theft and another to assassination that doesn't yield the kind of response that person has seen.


Yup. I loaded a previous save where I had 0 failed attempts and I didn't face any guards while travelling in Denerim. After a single failed attempt I travelled to the same destination as previously, with this result: one two.


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Fredericol

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Only person I pickpocketed in Denerim was the Pearl owner... after which I got ambushed.. seems she has connections.

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Profane69

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why complain about ambushes ? its just extra xp and some minor loot, its not punishment its extra encounters unlocked through pickpocketing !

#85
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Noxxio wrote...

For some reason I thought this was a thread about piracy.

I vote Ninjas.:innocent: Pirates just suck with all their "Arr" and they stink and besides, they kill just anyone. Ninja only kills rich people and only if someone pays for it (and they're very expensive, too, so one is quite on the safe side).:police:

Oh, you meant THAT piracy ? :blink: :innocent: Well, I dont see no reason why anyone would want to pirate Dragon Age. :P Its a game played by adults and you get an insane amount of great content and many many many hours of gameplay for your bucks.:o


Rhys Cordelle wrote...
To be fair, you've now stolen three items and killed 40 guardsmen. I think a death sentence is definitely in order.

Err, it is not a crime to kill people who are trying to kill you.:police:


Dylath Leen wrote...

I can't bring to mind any crpgs that handles this aspect of things very well.

I think the game should ask you a fine that raises the more often you get caught (outside of battle, anyway). And maybe the shopkeepers should start giving you worse and worse conditions, until you are completely forbidden. Also, I think you should gain access to special shopkeepers (fences) who offer very bad conditions but dont care how much you have stolen.

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Alneverus

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Thanks for the information, Meadowz. Though that is rather disappointing in the grand scheme of things.



Stealing from nobles and killing folk doesn't have that kind of affect, but failing to pick a pocket does? That seems like a consistency issue, to be honest. I have some other thoughts as to why, but for the most part I don't see the point of rambling on in regards to that.


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xsgenefuzz

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Goodmongo wrote...

I have seen quest givers refuse to give me quests cause of stealing. They said I was a bad person. Reloading and testing has confirmed that it was just due to stealing.


Yup, it is.  And if you steal from the Dalish, not only will they attack you later, Varathorn will stop selling to you. :(

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Same with any game: you have to reload. But I've never heard of an unsuccessful attempt in this game, except maybe in shops.

Modifié par Derengard, 28 décembre 2009 - 10:31 .


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TheForgetfulBrain

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I had an unsuccessful attempt from Gregoire at the tower, and he just kind of glared and told me to watch myself.



I've been wondering about this too though, debating whether or not to steal in Denerim. Hrmm.

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i stole from some knights in ostagar and they went and told duncan i was a theif. I overheard this in conversation as I walked up to get my "release" to go into the wilds. Don't know if this will affect my game going forward, but we'll find out.

Modifié par freightbrain, 10 janvier 2010 - 09:46 .


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bobtheworm

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my first pick pocketing try was in Denerim, I pick pocketed everyone in the city. Then when I left the market place I was attack by a mob of angry guards for my thievery. I ended up having to find a save spot from before I went to Denerim.

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Whailor

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Other then getting utterly useless trash in most cases, none, if your skill is good enough. If it's not.. well then it's also good as it can bring in... extra XP :)