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After playing through Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2, I've seen that the Protheans are more or less the key to figuring out how to stop the Reapers. Yes, they did not save themselves from them when they attacked, but the 12 or so Scientists that did, went on to the Citadel. We still do not know what came of them. I have a feeling that we may be traveling back to Ilos and researching some more of the Prothean Ruins. There may even be a way to reboot the VI and learn more about how the Reapers destroyed the Protheans.

With Mass Effect  and Mass Effect 2, we've gone through two basically unmapped sections of the Mass Relay network. I can see having to go through the Citadel and into Dark Space in Mass Effect 3 and facing the Reapers head on.
Of course this is all just thoughts that popped into my head while playing. It seems like it could go this way though.

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I can definitely see ME3 revisiting the protheans in more detail. It's one of those things that hasn't been resolved yet. But I also see ME3 having to something to do with dark energy judging by hints in ME2.

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Yeah, that'd be cool. And hopefully there will be more to the collectors, something about them that will get us closer to figuring out how to defeat the reapers.

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The Collectors are Protheans. The Reapers gentically modified them to look like bugs.

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massive_effect wrote...

The Collectors are Protheans. The Reapers gentically modified them to look like bugs.


Exactly, and seeing how the Protheans were "whiped out" and a few were turned into slaves and left behind thousands of years ago, this really brings up the question as to who exactly are the Collectors? Maybe they stem from the Prothean scientists?

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tdb023 wrote...

massive_effect wrote...

The Collectors are Protheans. The Reapers gentically modified them to look like bugs.


Exactly, and seeing how the Protheans were "whiped out" and a few were turned into slaves and left behind thousands of years ago, this really brings up the question as to who exactly are the Collectors? Maybe they stem from the Prothean scientists?


Genetic stew to Reaper is larger leap than genetic stew to Collector.

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massive_effect wrote...

The Collectors are Protheans. The Reapers gentically modified them to look like bugs.


I know, that's why I'm hoping they'll play some part in figuring out how to kill the Reapers.

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I think the key to defeating the reapers lies with the mysterious skull that you come across in ME1.

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Karstedt wrote...

I think the key to defeating the reapers lies with the mysterious skull that you come across in ME1.


You mean Leto's?

His line is worthless now.

Duncan is the key.

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lol, the ghola is ever deceitful.

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Karstedt wrote...

I think the key to defeating the reapers lies with the mysterious skull that you come across in ME1.


Of course! We use DNA fragments from the skull to clone an army of Krayt Dragons, (I assume you're referring to the Krayt Dragon skull) and deploy them in armored spacesuits to defeat the Reapers!

In retrospect, this project may be a bit to costly... screw it, let's just go find that giant Mass Accelerator Cannon and build a bunch of those.

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Nerivant wrote...

Karstedt wrote...

I think the key to defeating the reapers lies with the mysterious skull that you come across in ME1.


You mean Leto's?

His line is worthless now.

Duncan is the key.




You mean that random skull of the unknown creature or that crystal skull Indiana Jones recovered, he's already used that to save the universe once, I don't think it can be used again.

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KillaKow wrote...

Of course! We use DNA fragments from the skull to clone an army of Krayt Dragons, (I assume you're referring to the Krayt Dragon skull) and deploy them in armored spacesuits to defeat the Reapers!

In retrospect, this project may be a bit to costly... screw it, let's just go find that giant Mass Accelerator Cannon and build a bunch of those.


I'm talking about the skull on Maji. And remeber, cloning is like printing. It may cost a lot for one, but you can get 10,000 for almost the same cost. Let's just get set up for a 2 mil run and see how they perform.

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Karstedt wrote...

KillaKow wrote...

Of course! We use DNA fragments from the skull to clone an army of Krayt Dragons, (I assume you're referring to the Krayt Dragon skull) and deploy them in armored spacesuits to defeat the Reapers!

In retrospect, this project may be a bit to costly... screw it, let's just go find that giant Mass Accelerator Cannon and build a bunch of those.


I'm talking about the skull on Maji. And remeber, cloning is like printing. It may cost a lot for one, but you can get 10,000 for almost the same cost. Let's just get set up for a 2 mil run and see how they perform.


Yeah, that's the Krayt Dragon skull all right. And the cloning part wasn't the expensive part, it was outfiting each clone with an armored spacesuit that was the expensive part. (Especially if you take a Krayt Dragon's size into account)

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We must use the Shifty-Looking Cow!

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I was actually surprised if there was no shifty-looking cow reference in ME2.

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tdb023 wrote...

massive_effect wrote...

The Collectors are Protheans. The Reapers gentically modified them to look like bugs.


Exactly, and seeing how the Protheans were "whiped out" and a few were turned into slaves and left behind thousands of years ago, this really brings up the question as to who exactly are the Collectors? Maybe they stem from the Prothean scientists?


According to Vigil, the dozen survivors from Ilos made their way to the Citadel after the Reapers had left the galaxy.
I would believe the Collectors were engineered from the last of the indoctrinated Reaper victims when it turned out the Protheans could not be processed into a proper Reaper.
And their job apparently was to map the genetic codes of the space-travelling civilisations during the next cycle so their masters would not be disappointed again.

In one of the side missions you run into yet another Prothean beacon artefact, and you see the same message you know from ME1, only this time there is a new image of a Collector-like being near the end. So perhaps the tall gaunt humanoid shapes that are spread all over Ilos show statues of mature Protheans while Collectors are locked in a teen body that does not metamorph into a mature protean any longer?

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And what does that have to do with shifty-looking cows, Wildecker?

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tdb023 wrote...

massive_effect wrote...

The Collectors are Protheans. The Reapers gentically modified them to look like bugs.


Exactly, and seeing how the Protheans were "whiped out" and a few were turned into slaves and left behind thousands of years ago, this really brings up the question as to who exactly are the Collectors? Maybe they stem from the Prothean scientists?


Nope... I dont think they are relative to scientists. If you play archeological site N7 mission in ME2, you found another prothean beacon - there is also warning about collectors. They have been created during the invasion. Maybe soldiers.

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The scientists died out, listen to Virgil again.

The conduit was their gift, their death's the sacrifice.

I highly doubt that planet holds anything for us now.

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Ileanos07 wrote...

tdb023 wrote...

massive_effect wrote...

The Collectors are Protheans. The Reapers gentically modified them to look like bugs.


Exactly, and seeing how the Protheans were "whiped out" and a few were turned into slaves and left behind thousands of years ago, this really brings up the question as to who exactly are the Collectors? Maybe they stem from the Prothean scientists?


Nope... I dont think they are relative to scientists. If you play archeological site N7 mission in ME2, you found another prothean beacon - there is also warning about collectors. They have been created during the invasion. Maybe soldiers.

I don't think the N7 beacon was meant to be taken literally, more of a subliminal "Protheans became Collectors" hint.

As for the OP, the scientists were only woken up when the Reapers had left the galaxy, and the Conduit only worked one way, so the scientists were trapped on the citadel. Vigil assumed they starved to death. Doesn't really fit that the Reapers took them or that they went on to do anything specific beyond that point.

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Easiest solution.....put a ton of nuclear mines around the Citadel. Activate relay to dark space. Let them come.

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The N7 mission beacon just filled in the gap that Protheans = Collectors for me. They'd always been a bug thing race. Statues should never be taken to be literal translations of a people's appearance. Its all... art. Which is what the Protheans lost when the Reapers altered them.

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No, they're big tentacle bearded dudes in the beacon images too.

The Reapers altered them because.. um.. because they like bugs I guess.

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Akeashar wrote...

The N7 mission beacon just filled in the gap that Protheans = Collectors for me. They'd always been a bug thing race. Statues should never be taken to be literal translations of a people's appearance. Its all... art. Which is what the Protheans lost when the Reapers altered them.


Yes, but how are the Protheans still alive? They were whiped out 50 thousand years ago. Unless they are machines, there's no way they can survive that long.