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xDarkicex wrote...

We have technology to get to the mars in 39 days.
http://www.breitbart...&show_article=1


We have AMAZING technology at our disposal but our power technology is so far behind because of oil companies that we can't power half of these cool things humans invented.

Hell I wouldn't be suprised if the technology for FTL travel already existed given that specific types of radiation in nuclear reactors travel FTL. Obviously that would be classified though since a FTL object impacting another option would cause so much damage it would make the tsar bomb look like a hand grenade.

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We don't have the tech for FTL travel, mainly because we don't have anything (machine or human) that will even survive at those speeds.

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Amazing video Thanks for the link!

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I just hope we find life on other planets

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Very interesting.

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No, the Universe is utterly empty besides us, and it's not arrogant at all to believe that in a space that defies our very comprehension (that being the observable Universe) little old Terra was the only planet to suffer the catastrophic accident of organic life. /partial sarcasm

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Yeah, the growing organs stuff is interesting. But I was never worried about the organs of shepard. I wonder how they reactivated the brain after months of death... -.- I mean, people start to loose their mental capabilities after only a few minutes of low oxigen in the brain.

Shepard should be as clever as a potato by now.



Maybe that's why he works for Cerberus o.O

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gmartin40 wrote...

I just hope we find life on other planets




disclosure is comming dude. look up dr. steven greer on youtube at the x-confreces hes a gov whistle blower who is pushing a alien disclosure movement

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The Sci-Fi of Mass Effect is a fully restored Shepard with memories intact. In real life you might be able to regrow a brain but the memories, knowledge, experience would all be gone. Like if you fried your HD you lost the data. Now cryo-freeze might hold some possibilities.



Bioware wanted players to be able to reform their ME1 Shepards in ME2 and the whole Lazarus Project idea enabled that functionality albeit far fetch from reality. Funny thing is my ME1 Shepards, both male and female, look better than anything I could create with ME2.

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You do realize teleporters are an incredibly bad idea, since they'd kill you each time they transport you, right?



Pretty much yeah. And truth be told I doubt it is possible ( wormhole theory or not )

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Religious Nuts: "Science is overrated! What has it ever done for us?!?":

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D.I.Y_Death wrote...

xDarkicex wrote...

We have technology to get to the mars in 39 days.
http://www.breitbart...&show_article=1


We have AMAZING technology at our disposal but our power technology is so far behind because of oil companies that we can't power half of these cool things humans invented.

Hell I wouldn't be suprised if the technology for FTL travel already existed given that specific types of radiation in nuclear reactors travel FTL. Obviously that would be classified though since a FTL object impacting another option would cause so much damage it would make the tsar bomb look like a hand grenade.


The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN propels 2 beams of subatomic particles around a massive loop until they gain enough energy to be traveling almost the speed of light, roughly 99.9999991%.  Then they collide them to recreate the "Big Bang Theory" and other experiments.  So technically we can propel subatomic particles to almost the speed of light,  next step would be to do so to humans.  Possibly in the vacuum of space, free from gravity.  LHC collides 2 almost FTL objects all the time, while the collision produces massive amounts of energy, it is so short lived that nothing catastrophic can happen.  The collision essentially produces miniscule amounts of Dark Matter and temporary black holes (Yes! Black holes on Earth!) but once again the collisions are so short lived. 

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Real-life Commander Shepard

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Alan_Shepard - The first American in space

(Well, he was eventually promoted to Rear Admiral)

Modifié par Ecael, 18 mars 2010 - 01:46 .


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Fluffeh Kitteh wrote...

Only in sci fi it does. And only because sci fi works in the manner of taking scientific terms and shoving them onto fictional elements, hence "sci-fi"

In real life you don't go around saying technology can do this or that until it can literally do so. Until then it's better not to count unhatched chickens.


That's why you, in all likelihood, are not in the business of scientific research. If you assume something is impossible, then it really is impossible because you're not going to bother trying to figure out how to do it. Technology is about figuring out how to do things. Assuming something can't be done until it gets done will get nothing done.

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Two words to say to that - Repo Men

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D.I.Y_Death wrote...

The technology does exist but it's limited to transporting atoms. Did I also mention that the distance is extremely short and it creates a replica of the atom, the actual atom doesn't go anywhere (Startrek teleportation is based off of this, according to a TNG episode that I don't care enough to look up, which is why I think anyone in Startrek who teleports is an idiot.)

I remember that, was that the episode where the original copy didn't disappear or something? I don't remember what it was called. But yeah, the first time you saw Picard beam down somewhere, you could say he "died."

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I saw somethin about that a while ago. Pretty awesome. I've been trying to convince my dad that the Lazerus project isn't that far from us now. Thanks to this vid, I can strengthen my argument. Nice post

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Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

Religious Nuts: "Science is overrated! What has it ever done for us?!?":


I hope you weren't talking to me.

Qwepir wrote...

D.I.Y_Death wrote...

The
technology does exist but it's limited to transporting atoms. Did I also
mention that the distance is extremely short and it creates a replica
of the atom, the actual atom doesn't go anywhere (Startrek teleportation
is based off of this, according to a TNG episode that I don't care
enough to look up, which is why I think anyone in Startrek who teleports
is an idiot.)

I remember that, was that the episode
where the original copy didn't disappear or something? I don't remember
what it was called. But yeah, the first time you saw Picard beam down
somewhere, you could say he "died."


Even if they transported the atoms themselves, they'd have to dismantle whatever said atoms formed first, and they'd still kill your consciousness, recreating it at reassembley in a perfect copy.

Simple version: even if you move atoms, you still kill the person you're transporting.

Modifié par Dethateer, 18 mars 2010 - 07:53 .


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Interesting discussion everyone; I've been lurking around this thread every now and then and only now did I make a post.



I recall reading somewhere that our very current medical technology is in fact capable of reviving the dead at full effect, but ONLY within the first two to three minutes after a person has passed away. This leads me to the conclusion that those 2-3 minutes might be extended to 2-3 hours in the future and so on, but we never know.



It's fascinating to ponder these things nonetheless.

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and this is why i wan to become a doctor

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The main problem with teleportation or storing the current state of a brain with memories intact etc is Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle.



This principle states that it is impossible to know both the position and direction of any subatomic particle at any single point in time. If you know the value of one, then the value of the other is infinitely uncertain.

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Man that video is crazy..



I didn't know humans can do that kinda stuff :S

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RhedmondBarry wrote...



The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN propels 2 beams of subatomic particles around a massive loop until they gain enough energy to be traveling almost the speed of light, roughly 99.9999991%.  Then they collide them to recreate the "Big Bang Theory" and other experiments.  So technically we can propel subatomic particles to almost the speed of light,  next step would be to do so to humans.  Possibly in the vacuum of space, free from gravity.  LHC collides 2 almost FTL objects all the time, while the collision produces massive amounts of energy, it is so short lived that nothing catastrophic can happen.  The collision essentially produces miniscule amounts of Dark Matter and temporary black holes (Yes! Black holes on Earth!) but once again the collisions are so short lived. 


I just hope that when they, the scientists, do start experimenting with the Collider, nothing tragic will happen, like in Half-Life.

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If it does happen, don't worry, some lab geek with a crowbar and ponytail will save us.

ModerateOsprey wrote...

The main problem with
teleportation or storing the current state of a brain with memories
intact etc is Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle.

This principle
states that it is impossible to know both the position and direction of
any subatomic particle at any single point in time. If you know the
value of one, then the value of the other is infinitely
uncertain.


The problem isn't actually storing the memories, it's the fact that your ongoing mental processes have to be stopped temporairly for the transport to occur. That means that you die, and an exact copy of your mind keeps going when the thought processes resume.

Modifié par Dethateer, 18 mars 2010 - 04:03 .


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:lol:

Researcher's seeding cells in growth media is pretty cool. ****, I've been doing small-time tissue culture for two years, and I always wanted to do research in organ culturing. The idea of installing new incubated aortas can be beneficial during transplants and grafts is amazing, but it's a long long way off from any Lazarus Project equivalent. We're more likely to create tissue cultured meat than reviving a whole human being.