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[ModerateOsprey]

So back to ME, glances up - non spoilers forum -d*mn.

Modifié par ModerateOsprey, 18 mars 2010 - 05:31 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

I hope there are sufficient details as to how Cerberus accomplished the Lazarus Project in the game. I'll play it (finally) soon enough and see if I can get some answers, even if it's in the Codex.

[Dethateer]

There aren't. At all. Except a bit in an intro movie and a few comments relating to upgrades (also, something about stasis and Shep being similar to the remains of a Pinky Demon from DOOM1).

[Nihlus Kryik]

denna diskussion var väldigt intresant men jag tror det är, OMÖJLIGT!!!!!!!!!!!!

......just nu.

[Dethateer]

What the hell did you say about our discussion being (not) interesting?

[Fiery Phoenix]

Then we can only speculate.



Quite frankly, seeing as how reviving dead people is currently possible within extremely short time intervals, I can say that there is a good chance that will develop in the future and possibly reach a point where we will be able to revive someone who has been dead for a few weeks, as opposed to a few minutes to day. It's only a question of how and how and how. We would need to know much more about our very bodies/brains before we can do anything.



Believe it or not, but we practically aren't very sure how our brains really work.

[Dethateer]

We aren't even sure of what's on the abyssal plains, yet we're trying to explore space. Seems to me like we should get our priorities in order.

On a more on-topic note, this is basically a helping hand from whatever god one might choose, when it comes to transplants.

Modifié par Dethateer, 18 mars 2010 - 05:55 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

lol, maybe exploring space will help us answer those questions eventually. Who knows? We're star dust, after all. We belong to space. We are a way for the universe to know itself.

[Dethateer]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

lol, maybe exploring space will help us answer those questions eventually. Who knows? We're star dust, after all. We belong to space. We are a way for the universe to know itself.

I doubt any civilization, anywhere would be able to ever explore the whole universe, regardless of travel capabilities. The area that requires analyzing is basically infinite.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Dethateer wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

lol, maybe exploring space will help us answer those questions eventually. Who knows? We're star dust, after all. We belong to space. We are a way for the universe to know itself.

I doubt any civilization, anywhere would be able to ever explore the whole universe, regardless of travel capabilities. The area that requires analyzing is basically infinite.

Nope. Exploring the universe would mean intergalactic travel, which is, in short, pure science fiction. No matter how insanely advanced a civilization is, intergalactic travel remains far-fetched and out of the picture.

[Dethateer]

Not necessairly. According to some quantum physics I don't fully understand, both Star Trek-like warp bubbles are possible (not only that, but with current tech too!), and wormholes. But, again, moot point, the area requiring exploration is so large that it doesn't really matter how you travel.

[Fiery Phoenix]

The only way you would travel to another galaxy is by "folding" space and time, thus creating a shortcut (that is, a wormhole) for transport. This is possible from a mathematical standpoint and you can simulate it right now with a piece of paper and a pencil. The big question remains though, how would you do that in reality?

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 18 mars 2010 - 06:11 .

[Dethateer]

Don't really remember where I read that article, or the details (mind you, it was obviously wikipedia, so take it with a fairly large grain of salt). But, the warp bubbles would also fold space, contracting it ahead of the bubble, and relaxing it behind (generating a sort of wake). However, that places incredible strain on whatever's inside the bubble, not to mention the fact that it cannot be exited or steered.

It also assumes that space CAN be folded, which I'm not too sure is possible, as you said as well.

[MyChemicalBromance]

Wow.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Spacetime is viewed as being completely flat and pristine. Massive objects like stars distort it with their gravitational pull, which can actually explain the reason behind planetary motions around starts and gravitationally bound objects in general -- from a modern physics perspective -- rather than the traditional Newtonian mechanics.

Because of the assumption that spacetime is flat and is clearly distortable, then it is logical that it is also "foldable". I'm not very familiar with the details, but you get the idea.

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 18 mars 2010 - 06:24 .

[Dethateer]

What I don't understand is how something that's basically not there (space is, for all intents and purposes, a void, in which stuff exists) be folded. Or be regarded as flat.

[exxxed]

This should be interesting!



Can't wait for tomorrow night... 

Modifié par exxxed, 18 mars 2010 - 06:39 .

[Dethateer]

That "physicist" is the same smartass who researched every single possible thing which would go into a teleporter, failing to mention, despite it being blatantly obvious, that he made a scanner and an assembler. What happens with the person who uses his hypothetical machine was never touched upon. And to think I looked up to him...
[e]That's not to say that whatever he will have to say on the matter at hand won't be truth, quite the opposite.

Modifié par Dethateer, 18 mars 2010 - 06:44 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

As a matter of fact, there is no such thing as empty space. Matter is everywhere; and matter is anything that takes up space -- no matter how tiny. The whole folding space thing comes first and foremost from Einstein's Theory of General Relativity. Enough masses would generate enough gravity to distort space and time.



It's really a very complicated process that even after reading a fair amount of it, I still can't seem to explain it very well. Think of spacetime as a curved fabric and you'll get the very basic idea behind all this. Empty or not is irrelevant; this doesn't have to do with the chemistry of space. It's pure physics.

[ModerateOsprey]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

As a matter of fact, there is no such thing as empty space. Matter is everywhere; and matter is anything that takes up space -- no matter how tiny. The whole folding space thing comes first and foremost from Einstein's Theory of General Relativity. Enough masses would generate enough gravity to distort space and time.

It's really a very complicated process that even after reading a fair amount of it, I still can't seem to explain it very well. Think of spacetime as a curved fabric and you'll get the very basic idea behind all this. Empty or not is irrelevant; this doesn't have to do with the chemistry of space. It's pure physics.

A nice illustration of this idea is to imagine space as a large rubber mat. Place a large ball on the mat to, say, represent our sun. This ball will cause the mat to 'dip'. Then send smaller baller balls rolling round the dip to represent planets. 

[ModerateOsprey]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

lol, maybe exploring space will help us answer those questions eventually. Who knows? We're star dust, after all. We belong to space. We are a way for the universe to know itself.

Exploring space, even locally is essential IMO. The news may be dominated by global warming, wars etc, but very little is said about the upcoming scarcity of minerals. Be very afraid:

http://www.nytimes.c...01minerals.html

Here is a snippet from the article:

'China currently accounts for 93 percent of production of so-called rare earth elements — and more than 99 percent of the output for two of these elements, dysprosium and terbium, vital for a wide range of green energy technologies and military applications like missiles.'

These minerals are also essential for computers, mobile phones, etc etc. Many of these minerals are available in huge abundance in asteroids and planets within our solar system.

So maybe we are helping the world with the scanning game. We are actually detecting real minerals and reporting back to Bioware's space division? 

Modifié par ModerateOsprey, 18 mars 2010 - 07:08 .

[Dethateer]

Wouldn't it be more accurate if the ball was somewhere in the middle of the mat? (I mean, INSIDE the mat)

[Fiery Phoenix]

ModerateOsprey wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

As a matter of fact, there is no such thing as empty space. Matter is everywhere; and matter is anything that takes up space -- no matter how tiny. The whole folding space thing comes first and foremost from Einstein's Theory of General Relativity. Enough masses would generate enough gravity to distort space and time.

It's really a very complicated process that even after reading a fair amount of it, I still can't seem to explain it very well. Think of spacetime as a curved fabric and you'll get the very basic idea behind all this. Empty or not is irrelevant; this doesn't have to do with the chemistry of space. It's pure physics.

A nice illustration of this idea is to imagine space as a large rubber mat. Place a large ball on the mat to, say, represent our sun. This ball will cause the mat to 'dip'. Then send smaller baller balls rolling round the dip to represent planets. 

And that's EXACTLY how relativity explains planetary motion. This is actually a much more sophisticated way to think of orbital motion in the universe rather than going by the traditional Newtonian mechanics where centriputal force is the reason behind orbital motion. Yet Newtonian gravity works very well, but doesn't quite tell us what the universe really does.

There has been an ongoing debate as to which one of the two explanations is the actual reason behind orbital motion, and the answer is apparently neither. Whether spacetime curvature is what causes the devitation from straight-line movement is a very philosophical point that depends on how you view things. Both are proven to be perfectly correct in the end. 

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 18 mars 2010 - 07:15 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Dethateer wrote...

Wouldn't it be more accurate if the ball was somewhere in the middle of the mat? (I mean, INSIDE the mat)

Of course not, because spacetime itself is flat but CAN be curved and distorted under the effect of gravity caused by massive objects.

[Dethateer]

But wouldn't, then, space have a predefined "horizontal" plane?