114 réponses à ce sujet

[xDarkicex]

Yes unless that was there desired Effect o_o maybe they thought it would look better a flag waving then a limp piece of cloth



anyway I am going to go back to modding ME2 now have a nice day

oh yeah you all should check out my new Black with white accents M-22a Shotgun

[Dethateer]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the flag stretched out by metal wire, and stuck on a solid pole? Either of those could act as a spring to move it around.

[D.I.Y_Death]

Dethateer wrote...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the flag stretched out by metal wire, and stuck on a solid pole? Either of those could act as a spring to move it around.

Who knows? The moon landing is so old that I doubt any specific details about the flag were noted on any document that survived. If it happened on earth it would have been classified, if it happened in space the documents were probably destroyed with a thousand other useless documents.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

TomHark wrote...

What scientific proof are we ignoring?  I didn't watch the video the OP posted, but I guarantee you that every point will have been debunked loads of times by many qualified people.  Google it.  Or just watch the Mythbusters Moon Landing special.

I actually watched the video from the original poster, it is pretty much garden variety conspiracy nut drivel. They go on and on about the video quality shot on the lunar surface verses the quality shot from out the window inside the Apollo spaceship on it's way to Luna.

What people don't realize is once you take nice equipment which, in an earth atmopshere, works perfectly fine and then take it out into the vacuum of space with extreme temperature fluctuations and intense radiation bombardment...guess what? It doesn't work so well. So it doesn't suprise me that their "outside" camera was either crappy because it was a throw away camera. And weight *IS* a premium on a mission like this to carry three men, a lander and enough food, water and air to survive, maybe, just maybe they didn't have enough room for a space-proofed circa 1970's Hollywood studio in their ship.   (i.e. the gaffer had to take a seperate rocket)

[TomHark]

D.I.Y_Death wrote...

Mythbusters are subject to censorship from their sponsors, owners, the government and whoever else who has a big enough gun to demand whatever they want and not ****** off the government. The flag waving is questionable. Can't prove it either way but the movite was definitely there. Don't outright dismiss stuff without looking into it first, that's what stupid people do and I don't think you're a stupid person.

The flag waving is not questionable at all, I already said why and it had nothing to do with Mythbusters.  I also haven't dismissed something without looking into it first.  Do you think this is the first time I have ever seen a "moon landing was faked" thread on the Internet?

[The Illusive Paragon]

Not the moon conspiracy theory. I think my head will explode I hear about it again.

Modifié par The Illusive Paragon, 16 mars 2010 - 08:44 .

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

I don't know Tom, we better watch out, the big scary government might have their various men-in-black hanging out at Bioware's forums. They might be watching us right now...hanging on our every word...using brainwave guns from satellites which they also faked to change our thoughts into propaganda to make us believe their fake lunar landings...arrrrgh! We'll all be the Capitolist Stepford Wives! Aaaaah!

[Maugrim]

Just report the thread and move on folks these people aren't worth our time.

[TomHark]

Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

I don't know Tom, we better watch out, the big scary government might have their various men-in-black hanging out at Bioware's forums. They might be watching us right now...hanging on our every word...using brainwave guns from satellites which they also faked to change our thoughts into propaganda to make us believe their fake lunar landings...arrrrgh! We'll all be the Capitolist Stepford Wives! Aaaaah!

Luckily for us they are too busy forcing the Mythbusters team to support the hoax!

[Dethateer]

Adam Savage is too f**king awesomely insane to be bullied.

[D.I.Y_Death]

TomHark wrote...

D.I.Y_Death wrote...

Mythbusters are subject to censorship from their sponsors, owners, the government and whoever else who has a big enough gun to demand whatever they want and not ****** off the government. The flag waving is questionable. Can't prove it either way but the movite was definitely there. Don't outright dismiss stuff without looking into it first, that's what stupid people do and I don't think you're a stupid person.

The flag waving is not questionable at all, I already said why and it had nothing to do with Mythbusters.  I also haven't dismissed something without looking into it first.  Do you think this is the first time I have ever seen a "moon landing was faked" thread on the Internet?

No, but this will be the first person to ask you to cite your resources if you have such strong beliefs about a flag waving in space not indicating something unatural is happening.

Usually the truth lies between the polar extreme opinions, try to keep that in mind...well except for stupid theories like the Zionist cults driving the world. Oh, David Icke and your blood drinking lizards.

[TomHark]

D.I.Y_Death wrote...

No, but this will be the first person to ask you to cite your resources if you have such strong beliefs about a flag waving in space not indicating something unatural is happening.

Usually the truth lies between the polar extreme opinions, try to keep that in mind...well except for stupid theories like the Zionist cults driving the world. Oh, David Icke and your blood drinking lizards.

I already cited my resources:

Newton's First Law: An object in motion will stay in motion, unless an outside force acts upon it.

Sound familiar?  Do you think that it is less true on the moon than it is in space?

[Dethateer]

So, the Moon's gravity doesn't count as an outside force which can stop the flag from moving?

[TomHark]

Dethateer wrote...

So, the Moon's gravity doesn't count as an outside force which can stop the flag from moving?

Of course it does, otherwise the flag might still be moving!  The moon's gravity isn't as strong as Earth's though, so it takes longer to affect the flag than we would see here.  Seriously, try and find the Mythbusters episode and watch them put a flag in a vacuum and set it in motion if you want to see what happens.

[Dethateer]

Nothing? Without any air current to act on it, nothing will happen. It'll just... stay there.
But, to quote myself:

Dethateer wrote...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the flag stretched out by metal wire, and stuck on a solid pole? Either of those could act as a spring to move it around.

I'm aware this basically f**ks up half of my earlier argument (namely, that a flag COULD move in an enclosed space without a fan being pointed at it), but it's no less valid.

[Ernest101au1]

Woah. Only stupid people think that the mooon landing didn't happen. Smart people who actually understand things like physics and cosmology are able to grasp that it is entirely plausable and utterly logical. We had the technology, we had the desire, and we have irrefutable proof. Go to your local observatory and look at the fricking reflectors we put up there.

[LKx]

Russians would have known

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Ernest, you are obviously being zapped in the head by the same pro-capitolist brain-ray "satelites" that we are! Quick, make a tinfoil hat!

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Well, on a related note. I was hoping M.E. 1's lunar mission would of had a lander stashed away in a part of the map. They missed that easter egg possibility. A game from the late 90's, Battlezone, had a lunar mission where you could bump into the American lunar lander, it was pretty freakin' cool I thought!

[TomHark]

Dethateer wrote...

Nothing? Without any air current to act on it, nothing will happen. It'll just... stay there.
But, to quote myself:

Dethateer wrote...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the flag stretched out by metal wire, and stuck on a solid pole? Either of those could act as a spring to move it around.

I'm aware this basically f**ks up half of my earlier argument (namely, that a flag COULD move in an enclosed space without a fan being pointed at it), but it's no less valid.

The flag might have been stretched by a wire, I don't remember.  Regardless, the flag would have continued to move, just from the force used to put it into the ground, for a considerable amount of time afterwards.

[Babu Yagu]

gmartin40 wrote...

Here is  the proof!!

The Lunar Laser Ranging experiment proves that the landings coategoricaly did happen.
It's easier to fake a dumb video than a moon landing.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Yes, the flag would move in space, just like the astronauts move in space. Just because it's a vacuum doesn't mean astronauts can't move their limbs and fabrics are entirely rigid. I think there was some sort of wire setup along the top part of the flag to make it easier on the astronauts because those bulky spacesuit gloves can't manipulate small things like a thin piece of cloth. Remember the Hubble repair and the interviews of Story Musgrave chasing the screw? It's apparently hard to use those big clumsy gloves and a wire of the flag makes sense to keep the top portion rigid enough to ...you know...film. Setting the flag would make the pole vibrate and the cloth would flap. Wind isn't moving the flag. People just can't seem to wrap their heads around this because it's unintuitive to think outside an earth environment.

[Weiser_Cain]

Stop talking to him, all this stuff has been debunked, he WANTS to believe in this nonsense.

[lovely jubley]

Stop posting in this thread and bumping it up. wait...... God damnit!!!