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The Real Bowser

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Is there any way to keep her alive?  I was really looking forward to having her as a playable character.

I know that at some point I really pissed her off and got -15, is that what did it?

It really just seems odd to have her listed as a playable companion, have her able to like or dislike you, just to have her die.

Has anyone managed to keep her alive?  If so, how do I do it? 

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Isavald

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I went through it twice and she still died. I'm getting pissed, I wanted her as a companion as well. 

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I never got any negative approval change, and one positive of +10, and she still died.

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Isavald

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I've even just tried taking her alone to the joining, still dies. Unless she somehow later appears in the game..? Not trying to invoke spoilers here. Just confused as hell because this is one of the companions I initially wanted. 

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Do you have the option of preventing her from undergoing the joining ritual? Because if you do, that seems like the obvious solution.

Edit: I ask because I want her in my party, too, and I'm obliged to wait until the 22nd, when my pre-ordered copy of the expasion is scheduled for delivery.

Modifié par berelinde, 16 mars 2010 - 08:40 .


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RogueWriter3201

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Wait, wait...
Just how long into the game does this happen? I mean, it
really doesn't seem to make a hell of alot of sense to give
a Character thier own info page and Trailer just to have
you find out not half an hour after you recruit her that she
dies during the Joining.

What the hell, Bioware?

I mean, I love Dragon Age (the Universe, Lore, Characters) but
it seems like mistakes are being made in such a way one
would think you guys had 'never' done High/Dark Fantasy
games before. Hello? Baldur's Gate. Neverwinter Nights.
(Pause) Although...in NN it really did suck that you couldn't
save Arabeth from the Hangman's noose...
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ok... she was the only one I was really looking forward to having along o_O  I am intruiged to see whether this is a 100% occurrence or not :\\

Modifié par Huojin, 16 mars 2010 - 11:01 .


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Sabriana

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glenboy24 wrote...

Wait, wait...
Just how long into the game does this happen? I mean, it
really doesn't seem to make a hell of alot of sense to give
a Character thier own info page and Trailer just to have
you find out not half an hour after you recruit her that she
dies during the Joining.

What the hell, Bioware?

I mean, I love Dragon Age (the Universe, Lore, Characters) but
it seems like mistakes are being made in such a way one
would think you guys had 'never' done High/Dark Fantasy
games before. Hello? Baldur's Gate. Neverwinter Nights.
(Pause) Although...in NN it really did suck that you couldn't
save Arabeth from the Hangman's noose...
Image IPB


However, Aribeth did return in HotU.

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KnightofPhoenix

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That's the whole point. You need to see people, good people, die to truly be a Grey Warden commander. I love it! Teasing us with a pseudo-Ser Cauthrien, only to take her away by the joining. That's the tragedy of the Wardens.

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Huojin

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They should have snatched Oghren away. He's a good person under the smell, and he's got a kid. That's more tragic than Mhairi. And less irritating.

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it's always nice to see Awakening spoilers in the Origins thread, especially when i still haven't bought Awakening!! :)

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_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...



runscript zz_addparty Mhairi and let's just pretend it never happened ?




Also, there is no Awakening spoilers forum so it's quite hard to know where to post...

#13
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ah, not matter. it's my fault actually, i didn't remember that Mhairi is an Awakeking character while i was clicking the thread, as i haven't bought the game yet

Modifié par Loaderini, 16 mars 2010 - 03:04 .


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Sabriana

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This is the official blurb under the Awakenings forum:

Dragon Age: Origins Awakening General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
This forum is for fans to discuss the upcoming expansion pack Dragon Age: Origins Awakening. Please keep discussion centered on Awakening and use the other forums for Dragon Age core game discussion. Spoilers are not allowed here. Please discuss the story in the Official Campaign forum.

So unless you want to take it up with the site-owners, the posters who put Awakening spoilers in here are just following orders.
It would be kind of nice and polite to put some kind of "Awakening Spoilers" warning in the titles. Just as a courtesy, sort of.

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Great, no true warriors unless you are one. Maybe I can buy the respec book and change a dps warrior to board and sword. Seems a bit Rogue / Mage heavy this expansion. 3 Rogues and a Mage or 2 Rogues 2 Mages...DPS!!! pew, pew!

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Oh come on there has to be a way, maybe you have to talk to her or pick the right dialogue - anything? Oh come on, has someone bought the bloody guide?



Please!


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KendallX23

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sorry Venatio...but it seems characters that trully seem interesting are either dieing,fall to just beeing clowns..or enter the i am evil companion with a broken soul deep underneath

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The Real Bowser

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Loaderini wrote...

it's always nice to see Awakening spoilers in the Origins thread, especially when i still haven't bought Awakening!! :)

It's such a shame this thread isn't marked for spoilers with Mhairi's name or anything.  Then you could have avoided it.  Oh, wait...

Modifié par The Real Bowser, 16 mars 2010 - 06:21 .


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just read the prima guide, and theres rly no way around her death :/

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BTW, nobody teaches anything (AFAICT) -- you have to get the manuals. And in some cases if you're getting them before lvl 22 they don't have the spec you thought they did.



I'm saying this because I was expecting Mhairi to teach Guardian, She didn't have it, and she didn't. (No one else teaches anything, again, AFAICT. Part of the new dialogue system. You can't ask them to teach you.) You've gotta buy the manuals.



I'm basically pointing this out because AFAICT if Justice is going to be your Spirit Warrior, you've got to make Og your Guardian. It doesn't seem to go naturally well with Beserker and is probably better for a S & S warrior ... but oh well.



Seems to me the death rate for Joining rituals, like I said, is around 25%-30%. Three people take the chalice -- one dies. Was pissed it had to be Mhairi.



Don't bother raising her approval too much or giving her too much stuff -- she won't last long.



The BB geeks told me the Prima guide wouldn't be in till Friday, but maybe it's there today. The online guides may also take a few days to start putting in little details like this.




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I could tell within a moment of looking at her that she wasn't gonna last the joining.



"Blah blah blah, it's an honor to serve the wardens."

"Maybe you should wait here..."

"Don't tell me what to do! I'm a warrior ****!"

Mhairi disapproves -15



She didn't seem to be particularly unique nor possess any sort of innate character strength. More fodder for the joining.



Hah, I loved Oghren's reaction though. I just somehow knew that for all the nasty things he's sure to have imbibed he'd probably down the Darkspawn blood like a cheap ale.

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Sooooo... Mhairi = Jory - cowardice? The ernest wanna-be Warden who is "sadly irrelevant in the larger scheme of things"?

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Kimarous wrote...

Sooooo... Mhairi = Jory - cowardice? The ernest wanna-be Warden who is "sadly irrelevant in the larger scheme of things"?


i think its more like Mhairi = Daveth

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"I have been awaiting this moment my whole life!" "dies"

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Well this sucks no much it is like 3 min into the game and she is dead WTF?!