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#101
tenieldjo

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to be honest, when I read her profile she seemed... incredibly dull. Very mundane. The others had much more depth and character, and a more interesting background. Had she lasted, she would be akin to Jacob in Mass Effect 2, which is to say, boring.

#102
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First time I saw her die while playing my human noble warrior, I thought "oh, maybe they kill one based on what YOUR class is, so you don't have, say 3 mages or something." So I restarted with my city elf rogue and sure enough, down she goes.



What gets me is that she was the "normal" one in the group. In Origins you had Alistair as your level headed right hand man. Looks the Wardens put all their sense into one woman and Murphy's Law up and killed her. So yeah, I wish she'd survived.

#103
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glenboy24 wrote...

I mean, I love Dragon Age (the Universe, Lore, Characters) but
it seems like mistakes are being made in such a way one
would think you guys had 'never' done High/Dark Fantasy
games before.




Just because you dont like what happens to her doesnt make it a mistake. There is no right or wrong in this, just how the story unfolds.

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Personally I never read her profile (Damn Dragon Age site is age gating me for no reason -.-) but from the start when I entered Awakening I knew she was going to die like the other 2 from Origins.

Oh well she seemed rather bland and boring from the start with an annoying self-righteous sense about her. I would never trade Oghren or Anders for her personally.

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We can never have a non-angsty companion can we? (except Oghren)

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tenieldjo wrote...

to be honest, when I read her profile she seemed... incredibly dull. Very mundane. The others had much more depth and character, and a more interesting background. Had she lasted, she would be akin to Jacob in Mass Effect 2, which is to say, boring.


Well to each their own but if Mhairi had survived and someone else died maybe you wouldn't be happy with that either? Point is different people like different characters, arbitrarily offing one just alienates those who like that one.

EDIT: Maybe something like Mass Effect 2 does in which you do a quest to gain loyalty, that way you as a player have more influence over the story. Whether dragon age writers want to relinquish influence over the story or whether they can afford to develop to these permutations, I don't know.

Modifié par m14567, 19 mars 2010 - 02:14 .


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Daigoji Gai wrote...

Now what would be interesting, specifically for DA2, would be if it was a random factor. There is a 50/50 chance of a person surviving - a flip of a coin. So in one playthrough a char may survive, in another, the person may not make it. That may cut down on the frustration some are facing given Mhairi bit the dust.

That's what they should have done here, picked one character at random to kill, either at the time or determined when you import the character.

thegreateski wrote...

We can never have a non-angsty
companion can we? (except Oghren)

Only if they're a man, apparently... a "normal" woman is apparently too much to ask.

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Is it just me, or does everyone who WANTS to be a Grey Warden perish in the Joining?

Look at Origins: Daveth was fairly eager to become a Warden and he got offed. Loghain was far less eager and he made it. In Awakenings, Mhairi was probably the only character who wanted to become a Warden because she thought it was a noble cause and whatnot. And she gets offed. Every other companion; Oghren (joined because he likes killing things), Velanna (joined out of revenge), Nathaniel (was forced into it), was more or less unwilling to become a Warden. And yet all of them made it.

Could there be a connection there, mayhap?

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If you want to be a grey warden = death

If you hate or tried to kill the PC = life

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I'm still confused why some people are saying her dying makes Bioware's promise of "5 new chars + 1 old" invalid. You have Anders, Nathaniel, Sigurn, Valenna, and Justice = new + Oghren = old. Just sayin'. As for her dying, I didn't really see it coming, but I wasn't surprised.

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Thund4H0rs3 wrote...

 but from the start when I entered Awakening I knew she was going to die like the other 2 from Origins.
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That was my thought aswell. I was actually expecting her to die way sooner then the joining. So when it was the joining moment, i wasnt suprised one bit.

Ofcourse i wouldnt have mind a more level headed character between the comedian's and drunk pervs. But i accept BW choice for whatever reason they saw it fit. =d

Modifié par Zhijn, 19 mars 2010 - 04:24 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...

If you want to be a grey warden = death



Tell that to my Elf Mages.  But then, if the PC dies, it's game over.  Where's the fun in that?

#113
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NOOOOooooOOOOoooOOOOooooOOOOoooo!!!

Brilliant twist fooling us like that...but still...

NOOOOooooOOOOoooOOOOooooOOOOoooo!!!

Modifié par Hell Mutant, 20 mars 2010 - 04:06 .


#114
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Hell Mutant wrote...

NOOOOooooOOOOoooOOOOooooOOOOoooo!!!

Brilliant twist fooling us like that...but still...

NOOOOooooOOOOoooOOOOooooOOOOoooo!!!



There there now, atleast you have Oghrens big hairy ass to put in front of y... oh bad mental image...... Image IPB

But no really, your not alone. I restarted 3 times, kicked out both Oghren and Anders and, well, she still dies. I really wanted her in my party, she would have made a great second in command even - officer material she was.  

Lets all drink to Mhairi, and hope we don't heave and lurch like she did.

Modifié par Venatio, 20 mars 2010 - 04:15 .


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VanDraegon wrote...

glenboy24 wrote... I mean, I love Dragon Age (the Universe, Lore, Characters) but it seems like mistakes are being made in such a way one would think you guys had 'never' done High/Dark Fantasy
games before.

Just because you dont like what happens to her doesnt make it a mistake. There is no right or wrong in this, just how the story unfolds.

Considering the game is said to be an interactive roleplaying game? yes it is a mistake when a large group of players obviously would like a different option. Now if this was a movie, television series, or a book? you might have a point but alas no; it is lacking.

Modifié par Jax Sparrow, 20 mars 2010 - 04:17 .


#116
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Anyone besides me that saw it coming?



They say that you get 5 +1 companions yet they revealed 7 ^^



She just seemed to be the one with the weakest personality :D

#117
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For the people who need a tank that's not Oghren early on, you could always respec Anders as an Arcane Warrior.

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Hell Mutant

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To the people saying she was bland and had no personality...that's what was great about her...she was a "girl next door" type, but had the potential to be a total bad as s. Bioware trolled me, indeed. Nice job!

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Loaderini : "it's always nice to see Awakening spoilers in the Origins thread, especially when i still haven't bought Awakening!! :)"

Are you really expecting spoiler free anything when you come to a forum? Reality bites.




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Mhairi dies now we know not to invest any time with her.