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[Brockololly]

Harcken wrote...

Please, please, please do not be an MMO.

I would lead an Exalted March to Edmonton if they make a DA MMO....

[Demx]

It's a Tuesday, and what happens on Tuesdays with new video games?

[Cloudgunho]

there wont be more Large expansions but still some DLC as i have read.

[MoSa09]

Brockololly wrote...

Harcken wrote...

Please, please, please do not be an MMO.

I would lead an Exalted March to Edmonton if they make a DA MMO....

i would follow.

But that would also require some major gameplay changes. Anyone can press spacebar to pause the game anytime and rearrange the party. Cool, in a fight with multiple players, now that sounds fun: pause-play-pause-play-pause-play.

If they want to make an MMO, they have to change the game quite much, they can also well make a new game and simply place it inside the same universe.

If just Evil Chris (never was a nickname that well deserved ) at least give us a small hint when we can expect some new infos on that mysterious new thing. one week, one months, three months?

[Jaron Oberyn]

pivopivobeer wrote...

don't get that hyped up. i hope it's only a dlc because if they rush DA2 it will pretty bad

Well it is DA:2. There was an article on IGN saying that EA will have another Dragon Age title in 2011. Thats it.

[Master Shiori]

Guess that depends on whether EA considers expansions like Awakening to be a "DA title".



Considering that DA:O came out in second half of 2009, I doubt Bioware would really rush the sequal out at the start of 2011. Especially if you consider how long DA:O has been in development...



My money is on another major expansion ala Awakening.

[screwoffreg]

irinotecan wrote...

Everyone complaining about DA 2 being "rushed" forgets that DA:O was supposed to ship in March '09, but was delayed for the console ports. I would suspect that initial work on DA 2 probably started around that time. This would also explain the "fast" turnaround for the Awakenings expansion.

This does seem to make sense, but its too early to be worrying about it now.  With Awakenings released, we also have a whole lot of ME 2 DLC before the of the year.  Early 2011 seems to be a big date for A LOT of Bioware games. Mass Effect potential expansion, Dragon Age something or other, and then the MMORPG (which isn't what I am interested in but nonetheless).  Just one year folks.

Modifié par screwoffreg, 17 mars 2010 - 12:03 .

[screwoffreg]

Master Shiori wrote...

Guess that depends on whether EA considers expansions like Awakening to be a "DA title".

Considering that DA:O came out in second half of 2009, I doubt Bioware would really rush the sequal out at the start of 2011. Especially if you consider how long DA:O has been in development...

My money is on another major expansion ala Awakening.

EA would never allow any game to take as long as the original DA, I think.  That was a fluke...

[Brenn86]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Well, I know what it is, but I think all I'll say is that this will be a pretty cool date for fans of Dragon Age.

oh yes, Dragon Age 2!  We're not stupid, we know this is turning into a wheelmill game like the Medal of Honor series was.

Frankly I'm disappointed.

[Kothoses Rothenkisal]

Wow everyone is so quick to trash talk this.



Personally if the EA effect is that we get MORE bio games of the usual quality (I mean quality of ME 1 and 2, and DA:O, not dumbed down mass produced simplified versions of games) then all I can say is good times.



If however it turns into a production line of smaller episodic games... well aslong as they maintain a high quality then they will still get my money. IT will take a "Storm of zephyr" style mess to push me away as a customer....

[screwoffreg]

Kothoses Rothenkisal wrote...

Wow everyone is so quick to trash talk this.

Personally if the EA effect is that we get MORE bio games of the usual quality (I mean quality of ME 1 and 2, and DA:O, not dumbed down mass produced simplified versions of games) then all I can say is good times.

If however it turns into a production line of smaller episodic games... well aslong as they maintain a high quality then they will still get my money. IT will take a "Storm of zephyr" style mess to push me away as a customer....

I can see EA taking the production line idea with DLC, as they seem in love with it (they mentioned they want ALL of their games to have some DLC).  I don't see them rushing full game franchises that they can rely on like ME or DA.  Dragon Age is unique because the first game took a damn long time, even before EA was involved.  I can see how the might want to drum up more cash for that franchise since development must have been expensive...

So far EA has not done anything really terrible recently.  Activision is the real bad company these days and EA seems to have greatly improved from its terrible past.

Modifié par screwoffreg, 17 mars 2010 - 12:10 .

[Barbarossa2010]

To the naysayers and the high falutin members of the RPG community:

I don't see how anyone could b!+c# about a Feb 11 release of DA2. Do you just need something to b!+c# about? Good gods. I mean really: "Sorry Bioware, I love you're games more than any I've played of late, but you're puting out content entirely too fast! Oh, and you better be careful that you don't break the exact 2.5 year release schedule for sequels, because if you do then I'll b!+c# about that too." WTF?

Think for a moment. DAO was in production for 5 years. Engine is built. Main storyline is written. Do any of the high falutin really believe that development of a sequel began 1 Nov 09? Are some purists caught in a time warp and believe we have to wait a required minimum of 2.5 years for a quality sequel to a game?

Companies intuitively know that there is much more money to be made when quality content is put out better and faster. I, for one, like the idea of the bulk of development done up front prior to the release of the initial title of a franchise, in order to enable annual (or perhaps slightly longer) release dates for sequels. This appears to be what Bioware and EA are doing.

A new paradigm is obviously emerging and, honestly, it's about damn time. Today's market is saturated with so many crappy games right now that when I find gold, I'm not ever going to complain about timely release of subsequent content. Development technologies are also a bit further along today than they were even in the days of Baldur's Gate, with self-generating environmental geometry, etc. Probably, the real effort for sequels of RPGs such as Bioware develops is probably in voice acting and porting, as they've had the eggheads developing the environments and the story written for years now. If the story is written and the bulk of the environments are developed, I fail to see the problem with a faster release schedule than what we're used to. Having watched Bioware in action as a consumer, I'll bet they've had DA2 in development for years, and DA3 is probably way beyond the story boards.

Remember DAO was in development for 5 years. That's 5 years before many of us ever heard of the game. That's quite a bit of time to develop gaming enviroments and lay a long storyline out.

BTW, the very existence of this social network is proof that Bioware cares about what you think (you really think it's here just for us to talk tactics and chat?) and that a quality gaming experience and player expectations are high on their priority list. The developers and writers participate in many threads. Every game sold and played feeds a DA server somewhere amd gives Bioware immediate feedback on player trends, decisions made and what they like to do in the game; thus variations to the established story in future installments or favorite characters, classes, storylines, etc, can be supported in future games.

Relax. There are many other things I could b!+c# about other than timely release of sequels to a game I really like.

Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 17 mars 2010 - 02:20 .

[contown]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Well, I know what it is, but I think all I'll say is that this will be a pretty cool date for fans of Dragon Age.

Is that the day the dex bug gets fixed for the 360?

Modifié par contown, 17 mars 2010 - 02:26 .

[contown]

quote]Chris Priestly wrote...

Well, I know what it is, but I think all I'll say is that this will be a pretty cool date for fans of Dragon Age. 






[/quote]

Is that the day the dex bug gets fixed for the 360?

Modifié par contown, 17 mars 2010 - 02:28 .

[Corephyfish]

I must have missed this bit of paper...

[abat223]

Think about the epilogue..



From the details about time I think it's Dragon Age 2

[DocSigma]

It's DA told from the perspective of the Archdemon..... with a crappy ending of course.

[DocSigma]

Serously... it's got to be DA2... I was kinda hoping that DA2 would be built around a more next gen graphics engine... I'm sure the story line will be amazing, but given the 11 month release date i think they will probably stick with the current engine.

[IC_MCMXCII]

is the release date for dragon age 2 look this page,

www.meristation.com/v3/todosobre.php 

they where part of the dragon age challenge as team spain so they are a trustable source

[Altima Darkspells]

Even if BioWare started work on DA2 at the original release date that DA was planned (which I doubt, since they did use that time to insert something like sixty more quests as well as work on the Stone Prisoner, and then there's, you know, Awakening), that would just be at the two-year mark that sequels take.

But they had to have at least a little bit to work on Awakening sometime. I seriously doubt that BioWare was able to sling the expansion together in the less-than-five months since Origins was released (and if they did, they should've gotten a better price on their souls).

So if the development team started working on Awakening during the down-time when Origins was supposed to be released (2-3 quarters), then that's roughly a year, which is the typical expansion time frame. If they then moved on to the 'secret' project while Awakening was being QA'd, that's, what 18 months?

It's either a very large expansion or a very rushed sequel.

Or something completely different. Hey, maybe they'll be releasing Part 2 of Dragon Age Journeys! Or Dragon Age: The Board Game.

Still, if it is a sequel, I vote that it should be titled as Dragon Age 2: The Search For More Money.

EDIT: Loghain, Anora, or Howe toilet paper would be AWESOME.

Modifié par Altima Darkspells, 17 mars 2010 - 04:33 .

[kaotician]

I see no reason to apply such a strict understanding to the idea of development time = quality. Whilst it may have been in the past that 2 years + was required for dev, it's my understanding that the bulk of dev time is actually spent in the rendering of a game, not it's actual writing or plotting. That being the case, one shouldn't presuppose that no improvement has been made down the years in render times to speed up the overall process.

[Gtacatalina]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Well, I know what it is, but I think all I'll say is that this will be a pretty cool date for fans of Dragon Age.

That's great

[Ponce de Leon]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Well, I know what it is, but I think all I'll say is that this will be a pretty cool date for fans of Dragon Age.

You know what I hate of you? You are quicker in making games than me making modification. How the heck do you think I'm going to complete my two projects "Possessed spec" and "The lost halls (info to come)"?!

[zorp]

"02.01.2011" is the reason why Awakening is so short, unfinished and bugridden. It's also the date where EA added quarterly income from the next DA game. The same way they wanted to exploit the sucess of DA by releasing DLC's and expansions really, really fast they want to get the next game out as fast as possible.



So everybody at BioWare has been cramming like crazy to try to make DLC's, the 1.03 patch, finish Awakening and start building the next game, all at the same time. It's not really surprising that the quality suffers.



So 02.01.2011 is not " a cool date for fans of Dragon Age" it's a sad reminder whats happens when quarterly profits decides the launch schedule. 02.01.2011 is the date we will get the next DA game, whenever the game is ready or not.....



It's all about the money.